Well that was discouraging, eh? Still, it's no time to feel defeated.

[Danger Mouse]

She beat us fair and square.
Congrats to her and her supporters.
We've lost some ground, but we still have the lead.
All we can do is prepare for the next contests and internalize the lessons we've learned from this loss.

[Levgreee]

1. It was a loss only in perception, not in delegates. I consider it a strategic victory

considering the make-up of voters, and the extent of Hillary's leads prior to March 4th

[Danger Mouse]

16. Perception is powerful, though, that's why we'll have to do a lot of work to overcome that.

:shrug:

[Levgreee]

29. I disagree in this case, Obamas organization is too strong on a personable,local level to be trumped

by perception

[Danger Mouse]

31. hmm...yeah, i guess that's true.

he does have strong ground organization. keep people grounded in reality, above the spin.

[Sir Jeffrey]

2. Yeah, we lost like 10 delegates...

We got 3 times that in GA.

[NC_Nurse]

3. Wow. How rational.

I've been here too long today. I can barely process such civil and positive words. :-)
You're right, Elrond. Thanks. :hi:

[Danger Mouse]

6. I've done my fair share of flaming lately.

Thought i'd go the other way for once. :P

[tridim]

4. She did well, but in reality she only won 2 of 4 states yesterday

Texas will send more Obama deligates to Denver.

[Danger Mouse]

8. do you have a link to the results? how'd obama do in the caucus?

[babylonsister]

36. Here's a link...

http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5298

[Danger Mouse]

42. thanks for the link...interesting information!

:hi:

[writes3000]

5. Hey, Elrond - Did you see the MSNBC video?

The one about the Obama campaign's predictions.

That gave me a shot in the arm like you wouldn't believe. Obama has an amazing team behind him.

[Emit]

11. Is it on line?

I'd like to see it but don't have cable.

[writes3000]

12. Here's the link

It's on the front page - on the left side under videos.

Watch the whole thing. It's pretty damn impressive AND encouraging.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x101229

[Emit]

20. Thanks!

That was very insightful. Thanks for passing that on.

[Danger Mouse]

13. He does have a strong team.

And that's what'll help him win in the end.
I'm still confident.

[writes3000]

15. Me, too.

Especially when I saw that the Obama camp had always planned for last night's results.

In fact, they did a little worse in Ohio than planned but they did better than planned in VT and TX.

[Danger Mouse]

18. That video is amazing. They're even prepared for a loss in PA.

Wow.

[writes3000]

21. I know. I know.

It actually sent a chill up my spine - that's how accurate and how prepared they are.

That's why Hillary is desperately trying to dig up dirt. There's no other way to stop him. The superdelegates won't overturn a 75 pledged delegate lead.

[Danger Mouse]

23. I think it's going to get...

very interesting.

[writes3000]

32. In my opinion, Clinton needs an Obama disaster

Anything short of that, it's up to the superdelegates and I don't think they are going to throw the race if anyone has a 50 delegate lead or more.

Obama needs to fight but his path looks far stronger than hers.

[Danger Mouse]

38. It does...but don't discount a disaster either.

He's prepared, and prepared well, though.

[blogslut]

7. The campaign goes on

:)

[Danger Mouse]

10. exactly. now for the next step.

[Emit]

9. While I appreciate the sentiment, Elrond Hubbard

In all honesty, I'd have to know what your definition of "fair and square" is in order to give the high five and all. All in all, I realize politics is politics, so in that sense, I hear ya. As for the rest of it, :thumbsup: for a positive post.

[Danger Mouse]

14. In the sense that politics is politics.

Obama needs to start hitting back, is all.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

17. You have good reason to be hopeful. Look at it this way...

Barack Obama is guaranteed to do no worse than VP. He will be on the Democratic ticket no matter what.

It's like when a football team clinches a playoff berth in week 12, but it's yet to be determined whether it's as a wild-card or division winner.

Hillary would gladly trade places with him.

You guys are in excellent shape.

[Danger Mouse]

19. Hmm...i wouldn't argue with that ticket.

:shrug:

[msallied]

25. I have to disagree there...

If Hillary weren't practicing the politics of destruction, it might be possible. By August, they'll be loathing each other enough out loud that the idea of "unity" between these two will be out the window. And Hillary would NEVER settle for the VP slot. She knows that this is the only chance she has at the Presidency. If Obama wins, Hillary will be 70 years old by the time she's able to run again (assuming he wins two terms). You think the media will go easy on an old lady running for president? I can see it now.

**edited to clarify the whole 70-year old remark.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

43. Obama/Clinton isn't a real possibility

It's a bad ticket, and Obama would be wrong to offer it. And she would be foolish to take it.

My point was that Obama is guaranteed to be on the ticket, not that Hillary is.

If--speaking only hypotheticaly--she won, it would be close and divisive and she would have no choice but to offer him the slot. Whether he accepted the offer is his call.

But no matter how things go, he will at very least be offered the VP slot.

[msallied]

22. Don't fall victim...

To media spin.

[Danger Mouse]

24. welcome to DU!

:hi:
hey, i'm a little discouraged now, but i still think we can win!

[msallied]

26. Thanks! :)

I've been lurking for three weeks. I suppose it was inevitable I join in at some point. lol

[Danger Mouse]

27. I lurked for several YEARS before joining.

:P

[Cha]

28. Oh yeah, "fair and square" is hilary's

middle name. Only she didn't win the delegates in Texas or Vermont and she didn't win RI and Ohio by all that much.

[Danger Mouse]

30. It was a perception victory for her more than it was a strategic one.

It's up to Obama to pierce that bubble.

[Cha]

33. Yes, and Obama will pierce

hilary's hot air bubble.

[AZBlue]

34. Eh, she won four total delegates.

Not much of a difference actually.

[Danger Mouse]

40. Difference is all in perception...and that's what we gotta overcome.

[cooolandrew]

35. Who's defeated we are the front runner still. Gotta work harder though.

We have to voluteer for election monitoring and be unbised too.

[cooolandrew]

37. NAFTA story false...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgpAvckNixM

Written article here too...

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=6a0ad227-2175-4142-8c40-a21c6e301223&k=46757
.
.FOR the love of god folks turn the MSM off they are destroying our lives. Watch Olberman though. Always listen to headonradionetwork.com and novamradio.com for real news. Let'get our man past the post.

Here is what to do...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yel3hRs6h54
.
.

[Danger Mouse]

39. We're not beaten for good, just knocked down for a moment.

Get up, dust ourselves off, and keep plugging away.

[cooolandrew]

41. That's just right let them celebrate. Congrats to them and we'll go to work.

[Danger Mouse]

44. kicking for a positive thread for once.

[NMMatt]

45. Agreed

I think it was rather unfortunate that the Canadian crap came out the weekend before Ohio. It shows that there was something intentional about the timing. Also the fact that Hillary sold out the Democratic Party on national security by siding with McCain really knocked Obama off his game.

We will win this nomination, however. Apparently Hillary hasn't learned a damn thing from her losses and intends to skip Wyoming and Mississippi. Obama will gain a larger delegate margin in those states than she did in her two wins yesterday. I think Hillary is making a critical error by not fighting for every delegate. She can talk about PA all she wants, and how she supposedly gets to decide what states should count as far as spin, but spin and media manipulation will not win the nomination. Delegates will.

[thevoiceofreason]

46. General Pyrrhus understands her "victory"

This 5-10 delegate win cost her a lot. Especially time and opportunity.

It's the 4th quarter Hillary. Do you know where your quarterback is?

[sueragingroz]

47. thank you for your very sane comments

The best of luck to the candidate that you support!