Dying Eagle
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:10 PM
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I think a woman should be VP |
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Here's my logic. I think most all woman, even the upper-middle class woman who's husband's will vote Repuke will secretly vote for Kerry. If any one candidate can secure the entire womans vote its a done deal. Kerry can attack more on the hard issues like economy, national security, ect. while the VP can talk more social issues (motherly feel). Lastly, Chaney is such a old bigot that he will surly say something stupid to expose himself as the bigot he is.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:16 PM
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1. I agree - Nancy Pelosi. |
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She won my heart when she ridiculed the Bush and Cheney joint testifying.
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Sun Apr-04-04 07:21 AM
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26. I think she said she wouldn't consider it... n/t |
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:19 PM
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2. Ann Richards perhaps ? |
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;)
Southern Belle to boot.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:20 PM
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:20 PM
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But not in this election. I think that will take the focus away from the real issues-Like the policial corruption that is known as the Shrub Adminisration.
A woman Veep may turn off some people who are still undecided or leaning towards Shrub. But it could turn some people on but I think this election is too important to have it turn out as a social-political event.
But I am for a woman VEEP and someday hopefully a woman PREZ
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:21 PM
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5. After living through the Ferroro disaster |
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I disagree. I think the male candidates in this election are more viable. I never want to pick a VP just because she's a woman. Pick a candidate that is strongest. Consider the women's vote but don't pick someone less qualified than other candidates.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:29 PM
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I was so excited when Geraldine Ferrara (sp?) was chosen as a vice-presidential candidate. I voted for her with pleasure.
But the most important thing to me today is getting rid of Bush and I think the best choices today are male.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:53 PM
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18. lets keep this in mind |
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which could make a difference.
WHY SINGLE WOMEN MUST VOTE Ruth Rosen, San Francisco Chronicle
Unmarried women are the demographic-swing group that could decide a close election, oust President Bush and alter the political landscape in Congress. *In Election 2004:
www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17862 -
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Dying Eagle
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:28 PM
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9. u read way too much in my post |
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Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 07:42 PM by WI for Kerry
I didn't say that all woman would fall in line. I said that it would help get woman who would not normally vote our way. I also did not say that the VP would not address the hard issues. i just think that woman have a warmer feel when speaking about social issues. Also, if i were sexist why would i want a woman in the second highest office in the nation. Stop trying to put words in my posts that are not there. It's rude.
P.s Why the love for Dick, He is the enemy you know! The point is he would say something sexist during the debate.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:45 PM
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15. but we pride ourselves on being better than the freepers and having facts |
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cheney hasnt done much bigoted to my knowledge. Is he a terrible greedy warmongering tool? yes. there is evidence to back that up. but bigot. maybe, I don't know.
also it is sexist and stereotyping to say you want a woman (would any one do?)and the reason being that she would " have a warmer feel when speaking about social issues. " wanting a woman in the second highest office in the land does not preclude the possibility that you have some sexist ideas. In fact your reasoning for why you want a woman VP (again - do you have anyone in mind or does it not matter as long as they fit the warm and happy stereotype you describe?) tends to suggest some sexism.
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Sat Apr-03-04 08:18 PM
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thats why i posted to see who people thought would make a great female VP. I am sorry if my post was taken as sexist. I am far from. I am looking forward to President Hillary in 2012. The social issues was one reason. I have too short of a attention span to list all the qualities of a Female VP. I also think that the Democrats are missing out on a BIG part of their base, Minority's and Woman. I really think the party needs to reconnect to them in this election. Even Chimp is trying to connect with them. (the illegal immigrant work permits)
P.S I guess the Freepers peg us as all "tree hugger's", so I am going to call all Repukes "Bigots" because it a fair chance that they are.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:21 PM
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7. yes, I think Carol Mosley Braun would be a good choice n/t |
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Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 07:38 PM by G_j
edit. name mix up :-(
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:23 PM
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:39 PM
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14. yes my brain's not working |
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:34 PM
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12. Carol was probably the most qualified for the nomination |
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Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 07:45 PM by daveskilt
and would have made (IMO) the best president. but she was not the best for the nom because this is america and in america there is no way in my lifetime that the chuckleheads in at least 2/3rds of the states would even think about voting for anything but a white christian man - put a white male semi retarded, odious, blob of turdlike pure evil up against a highly qualified, responsible, intelligent, african american woman and the white guy will win.
now if helen mosely braun (whoever that is) is a white guy maybe you're right
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:46 PM
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I have no idea where I got "Helen" from. Strangely enough, I tried googling the name and came up with two references that seemed to be referring to the same person we are talking about. :shrug:
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:51 PM
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17. hey I do the same thing all the time. I got my brothers name wrong once |
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Sat Apr-03-04 08:11 PM
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22. if she lost in Illinois against an unpopular opponent |
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Sun Apr-04-04 11:14 AM
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CMB has so much dirt on her from her stint serving as Senator in Illinois. She got a free pass since her candidacy never took off in the primaries. Ask anyone from Illinois about her if you want to see someone's face turn red with anger.
She would have to drop out; it would be Kerry's Eagleton.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:30 PM
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11. Do you have any qualified woman VP in mind? |
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I don't think it matters to those already decided on Kerry. The VP choice might turn a few swing voters, I guess it would.
I think a woman VP would cut both ways. It would gain some and lose some. Would be interesting to see some demographics on that. I suspect it would lose more than gain, but I'd hate to take a guess on that.
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Sun Apr-04-04 07:24 AM
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Hillary is very qualified, but I don't think she would help in the ticket at all.
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:39 PM
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13. I guess we would lose some... |
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Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 07:39 PM by WI for Kerry
I think we would lose some Mid-west Dem's. I am from WI and even most the dems can be a little redneck sometimes. This may not be the year to try it out. I tell you what I am getting tired of Old, White Men running everything in this country. and I'm white :)
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Sat Apr-03-04 07:57 PM
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19. I personally don't care |
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Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 08:10 PM by fujiyama
one way or the other. I just don't know of any female politicians that would definetely or almost definetely deliver a state. I would prefer a VP that is strong on national security because that is really where Kerry is still getting beat. I personally can't really think of any. Perhaps Diane Fienstien, but she's from CA, a state we shouldn't have much trouble with, she's too much of DINO for my tastes, and her gun control stances would kill us just about everywhere outside of the northeast (and possibly hurt us in some states in tha region as well). Boxer and Pelosi would be great, but are not realistic options. Another interesting option might be Debbie Stabenow of MI. She hasn't served a whole term there though, and she would likely help deliver MI, a state we need to win, but one which had a gap that has begun to close.
The only viable female VP candidate I can think of is Mary Landrieu. I don't know how popular she is in LA, and whether she can likely deliver the state.
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Sat Apr-03-04 08:04 PM
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20. Normally I would agree with you but this time I do not. |
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This is like no election I've ever seen and there will be great emphasis on national security. It has hurt our cause tremendously to have an incompetent ideologue who is also a woman charged with advising the POTUS on national security.
The damage that has been done is so immense that I now believe that I will never see a woman POTUS in my lifetime. I think that Kerry should choose a highly regarded military MAN for the position.
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Sat Apr-03-04 08:13 PM
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23. It might be a good idea, but there are simply no good candidates |
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If Landrieu was more liberal she might qualify, but otherwise every other candidate is simply far too polarzing or too easy to attack. Barbara Boxer may be awesome for California, but can you imagine her trying to run nationwide? And don't even get me started on Hillary.
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Sun Apr-04-04 05:36 AM
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25. It would be super to have a woman vp |
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Risky, yes. But in all, I believe it would bring in votes. It's really sad that the qualified people are considered "too" something, and that no one can think of any qualified women who are up to the job. In a perfect world, Mosely-Braun would be ideal because she would bring in the black community's vote as well as motivating women all across the class and ethnic lines. Plus she stuck out the debates, and has a good, solid temperament - nothing whiny or crybaby, and she is extremely likable and outgoing. I know very little about Landrieu, but Kerry didn't seem all that comfortable with her in the few photos I've seen. In the end, I think he should pick somebody he is comfortable with. What I like about Ann Richards is that she has a good sense of humor, and people enjoy her speeches for that reason. But there are other possibilities out there- and maybe we'll just have to settle for Wes in a dress.
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Sun Apr-04-04 10:38 AM
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I want a woman for president. Let's see if we're evolved enough by 2008 or 2012.
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