Hillary Clinton says "Outsourcing will continue." Wins ITPAA's *Weasel Award* 2005

[Stephanie]

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC01Df03.html


Hillary Clinton woos India
Mar 1, 2005

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Hillary clears outsourcing air

Hillary Clinton made it apparent where she stood on outsourcing during her India visit, in an attempt perhaps to clear the Indian misgivings received during the Kerry campaign. "There is no way to legislate against reality. Outsourcing will continue," she told an audience of Indian big-wigs. She pointed out that there were 3 billion people who feel left behind and are trying to attack the modern world in the hope of turning the clock back on globalization. "It is not far-fetched to imagine ... if the Indian miracle would be the one of choice of those who feel left behind," said Hillary.

Hillary has been at the forefront in defending free trade and outsourcing. During the height of the anti-outsourcing backlash in the US last year, she faced considerable flak for defending Indian software giant Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) for opening a center in Buffalo, New York. "We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences," Hillary said firmly, despite inevitably invoking the ire of the anti-free trade brigade.

Hillary further clarified her position during her recent visit as well as solutions that could be beneficial to both countries. She urged Indian industries to invest more in the US to allay negative outpourings over outsourcing of American jobs to India. "I have to be frank. People in my country are losing their jobs and the US policymakers need to address this issue," she said. She ruled out that the anti-India feeling was a reflexive reaction, and explained that the feeling was more because of the imbalance in trade between the two countries, which in turn caused anguish among Americans about the nature of the economic relationship.

http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/5689198-1.html

BUFFALO, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 10, 2003

TATA Consultancy Services (TCS), Asia's largest information technology firm and America's second fastest-growing IT consultancy, today announced that it has opened its newest North American office in Buffalo, New York.

The deal was the brainchild of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), who is dedicated to bringing new businesses to the state of New York, and was facilitated by the Confederation of Indian Industry, India's premier business association.

"When I learned of TATA Consultancy Services' intentions to expand its company, I thought immediately of Buffalo and dedicated myself to showing the company all that the region had to offer," Senator Clinton said. "TCS could have located anywhere in the country. I am proud but not surprised that they chose Buffalo."

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=07&year=2007&base_name=post_4419

HILLARY AND OUTSOURCING. The Obama campaign fumbled badly in June when it attempted to make an issue of Hillary Clinton's ties to Indian businesses implicated in the outsourcing of American jobs, releasing a press release that identified her as (D-Punjab). Today the Los Angeles Times offers up a more analytical take on the Senator's ties to India's Tata Consultancy Services, a company with 10,000 employees in the United States, 90 percent of whom are foreign-born. Clinton lured Tata to open an office in Buffalo, New York, the Western New York city that's only now beginning to revitalize after a decades-long economic slump. She heralded Tata's arrival as an opportunity for research collaboration between Buffalo's state university and the corporation.

What were the results? Tata created only 10 jobs in Buffalo (the company won't say how many of those employees are American citizens) and has so far not worked at all with the university. In 2004 Clinton defended herself to Lou Dobbs, saying, "Outsourcing does work both ways." But at least in the Tata deal -- and my hunch is that this is the case for many supposed partnerships between huge multinational corporations and public universities in economically beleaguered regions -- local benefits were minute.

http://www.itpaa.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1485

ITPAA Stories: Weasel Award March 4, 2005: Sen. Hillary R. Clinton
Friday, March 04 @ 00:05:00 EST

For release on Friday March 4, 2005 00:01:01

The Information Technology Professionals Association of America (ITPAA), an advocacy group based in Wilmington, Delaware representing professionals in the high-tech field has handed out its first Weasel Award of 2005 to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D - NY). The organization, representing over 1,200 IT professionals nationwide, presents this award to business and political leaders that it believes betrays the trust of the American people.

Scott Kirwin, founder of the organization, states, "We are tired of Democrats pretending they care about the problems facing average Americans. Senator Clinton's actions prove they clearly do not." (Read More)

The ITPAA based its award on Indian press reports of Sen. Clinton supporting outsourcing and assuring political and business leaders in India that the US would not attempt to save the jobs lost. "Outsourcing will continue," Clinton said in Delhi on Feb 28, according to a report by the Asia Times. "There is no way to legislate against reality. We are not in favor of putting up fences."

"Her statements got little press here but were splashed all over the Indian media," Kirwin says. "Does she think we aren't going to find out about it?" Kirwin says that the India media is the best source of information about outsourcing and what he terms "labor dumping" - using immigration policies to dampen wages.

Kirwin says the Senator's position supporting outsourcing is nothing new. He noted that in March 2004 Clinton appeared on CNN's Lou Dobbs show and criticized offshoring and the Bush administration support of the practice. Host of the program Lou Dobbs then pointed out that Clinton was closely allied with Tata Consultancy Services (TCS), an Indian offshoring giant which set up its US headquarters in upstate New York - an area Clinton represents. Clinton then justified her position by saying that TCS created 10 jobs.

Kirwin laughed, saying that TCS was responsible for the loss of thousands of last year alone. "It took 500 out of San Antonio when USAA outsourced its IT department to TCS." He also noted the senator's support of increases in the H-1b program which Kirwin believes contributes to declining wages in the tech sector. "When there's too much of something, its price goes down," he says. "Right now there are too many tech professionals in the USA, which is why salaries have been declining for the past five years. (Senator) Clinton's policy of throwing open the doors to foreign workers using the H-1b visa program just makes a bad situation worse."

"Politicians like Clinton don't live in the real world," Kirwin added. "They say that offshoring works both ways and support the practice based on two hundred year old economic theories that have never been proven. Then they wonder why America has the largest trade deficit in its history."

He notes that attempts to force nations to buy American goods and services have always failed. "I lived in Japan for five years, and the Japanese instinctively knew that purchasing a foreign product or service meant a lost job in Japan." He believes that Clinton and the other free-trade supporters are naïve. "American pride may be dead in the salons and boardrooms Clinton frequents, but nationalism isn't dead in Tokyo or Delhi. Even if our products and services are better and cheaper, foreigners aren't going to buy them because they know that to do so someone in their country will be out of a job."

Kirwin also cited Clinton's position as co-chair of the "Friends of India Caucus" in the Senate, a group of senators that supports issues important to India, including outsourcing and H-1b and L-1 visas, as another reason behind the ITPAA's decision to grant the award to the prospective Democratic presidential nominee.

"It would be nice if she co-chaired the 'Friends of America Caucus' instead," Kirwin noted dryly. "India doesn't need representation in the Senate - America does."

"Politicians have forgotten that people in Delhi don't vote for them, but those in Dallas do. That was a lesson that (former Presidential hopeful Senator John) Kerry learned in Ohio," Kirwin said, referring to the candidate's loss of that state in the 2004 election by 100,000. Kirwin added that the ITPAA has a very strong base in Ohio.

When asked about Senator Hillary's concern about Americans who "feel left behind and might stir up negative feelings about India", Kirwin replied, "We don't hold Indians responsible for taking our jobs; we hold leaders like Clinton responsible for giving them to them."

He also bristled at Senator Clinton's use of the term 'feeling left behind' to refer to people angry about seeing their jobs offshored. "Feel left behind? These are people who work harder for less money, who see their standard of living being better in the past than it is today. These are people feel betrayed by their leaders," Kirwin says, "Leaders like Senator Clinton who aren't concerned to see Americans leave their jobs to fight wars on the other side of the planet but are afraid to keep the jobs here for when they return." He also noted that India has refused to send troops to Iraq, noting bitterly, "They are more than willing to take our jobs - but not our responsibilities."

Previous winners of the award include Van B. Honeycutt, Chairman of the Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC), for his outsourcing of jobs to India at taxpayer's expense, Richard D. Fairbank, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Capital One, for his closing of call centers in the USA to cut costs while receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in stock options, and Senator John Kerry (D - MA) for his statements supporting outsourcing on a trip to India while publicly criticizing it at home.

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1. Good post! Get the word out on the unethical one.

email this to everyone.

She has a background full of unscrupulous behavior. It needs to be brought out in the sun.

[anonymous171]

2. Obama needed this for Ohio

Forget the NAFTA fliers, this is what he should sent out.

[thevoiceofreason]

3. It'll work well in Penn. also.

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[FrenchieCat]

5. She "hopes" that folks are uninformed......

and then they vote for her without question.

But there are many questions.