Obama won the big showdown state. And his popular vote margin was larger than Ohio was for Clinton.

[milkyway]

That state--Virginia.

Obama won the important swing state of Virginia by 275,000 votes and netted 25 delegates.
Clinton won Ohio by 228,000 and netted 9 or 10 delegates.

http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2008/state.shtml?state=VA

The next big showdown--May 6 in North Carolina, with 115 delegates at stake. Meet me in Raleigh!

The point of this post is that the media has kept the Clinton campaign alive by letting her find states that are favorable to her and define those as the big showdown states, while ignoring sizable states that are unfavorable to Clinton. Thus, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania became the big battlefield states to the media, while other large swing states like Virginia, Wisconsin, and North Carolina are greeted with a shrug of the shoulders, mere warmups until the important games begin.

The Clinton campaign would have been dead and buried long ago if not for this and, even more importantly, the media--led by The New York Times and CNN--misleading the public into thinking Clinton has been ahead throughout much of this contest, when in fact she has been trailing every day since they first started counting votes in Iowa.

The media delegate counts mixed pledged delegates--won by actual voting which had already taken place--with superdelegates, which are only based on the media's polls of the supers of who they plan to vote for in the future. In the first weeks of voting, the media rarely even made a distinction between these two very different types of delegates, lending Hillary the aura of leading with the delegates and keeping her campaign alive.

[BeatleBoot]

1. I thought he already won the whole enchilada?

It's been beat like a drum on this forum for 4 weeks or so.

Posters picking obama's cabinet.

Measuring the drapes to the oval office.

What gives?

[Tarc]

2. Spin it anyway you can, boys

Obama stumbled last night, plain and simple. The big mo' is now on the other side.

[milkyway]

6. Too bad for Clinton that momentum doesn't go backwards, when most of the voting took place.

Why haven't we heard, "Meet me in Laramie!" or "Meet me in Mississippi!"? If she has momentum then why is she looking past 45 pledged delegates? She should be eager to use her so-called momentum to pick up more delegates.

[OhioBlue]

7. no mo' for Hill. Sorry - she burned out

She came into Ohio like Hurricane of negativity. She threw everything she had in her arsenal. She has nothing left and like every hurricane, it weakens into a mild rain when it gets to the next State.

[Cha]

3. But, hilary has to be the victim and the m$$m

is always bashing her..they're the only reason she's still in this race.

Excellent points, milkyway..Virginia!

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Clinton winning the popular vote is a scary thought.

Since many (if not most) Internet-based Obama activists can't deal with stress or tolerate frustration, it's something that sticks in their collective craw and makes them crazy.

Obama has a 5-10% advantage in pledged delegates, but only a 3-5% advantage in popular votes. If this trend continues, there will be some serious problems.

But this is exactly what the Evil One wants. She is rubbing her hands and cackling with glee because she has instituted that most dirty of all dirty tricks. She is going to steal the election by getting people to vote for her!

Such monstrosity!

--p!

[Recursion]

9. Clinton's winning move is to beat Obama in the popular vote

That, at least, could give her a compelling argument to attract the remaining supers. If he makes it to Denver with more delegates and more votes, I don't really think there's anything she could do.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

14. That's why HRC wants to net 38 delegates and 288,000 popular votes from a

no-campaign name recognition contest (FL) and a Soviet-style 328,000-vote "blowout" (MI).

Those 616,000 Machiavellian "popular votes" already would wipe out Obama's hard-won 570,000-vote margin from legitimate elections.

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4918049 for the spreadsheet and CNN source links where these vote counts came from.

[truedelphi]

5. Hillary and the media say that if Hillary wins it - it counts

If Obama wins it - it doesn't count.

[FrenchieCat]

8. And Black people, Independents, Young Obama supporters and new voters

really, really don't count, according to the Hillary Campaign.

[Bake]

12. Once again, an Obamaniac throws the race card.

Your story has become tiresome.

Bake

[spag68]

15. I also am tired of it

HRC and every other serious person knows that all voters count and are important. The new voters are especially important,but some need to look at the big picture and stop use of words like hate, this is after all a Dem. board. and the objective is to elect Dems., or have I gone overboard here.

[FrenchieCat]

17. I got tired of it a long time ago as well......

But it is still happening.

Sergio Bendixen, a Clinton pollster and Hispanic expert, publicly articulated and Hillary agreed that this was an "historical Fact".

“The Hispanic voter—and I want to say this very carefully—has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.” —Clinton pollster Sergio Bendixen
http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2008/01/12/clinton-pollster-latinos-too-racist-to-vote-for-obama

Clinton at Root of Racist Stereotyping - Hispanics vs Blackswashingtonpost.com — Where did this come from? "Hispanics traditionally do not like Blacks." Since when? This is a racist, divisive falsehood that the Clinton Campaign has created and nurtured as a 'historical statement' in an attempt to pit the political arena against Obama. First mentioned by a Hillary pollster and then affirmed by Clinton herself. There is no proof.
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Clinton_at_Root_of_Racist_Stereotyping_Hispanics_vs_Blacks

A few weeks ago, Sergio Bendixen, a Clinton pollster and Hispanic expert, publicly articulated what campaign officials appear to have been whispering for months. In an interview with Ryan Lizza of The New Yorker, Bendixen explained that "the Hispanic voter - and I want to say this very carefully - has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates."

The spin worked. For the last several weeks, it's been on the airwaves (Tucker Carlson, "Hardball," NPR), generally tossed off as if it were conventional wisdom. And it has shown up in sources as far afield as Agence France-Presse and the London Daily Telegraph, which wrote about a "voting bloc traditionally reluctant to support black candidates."

The spin also helped shape the analysis of the Jan. 19 Nevada caucus, in which Clinton won the support of Hispanic voters by a margin of better than 2 to 1. Forget the possibility that Nevada's Hispanic voters may have actually preferred Clinton or, at the very least, had a fondness for her husband; pundits embraced the idea that Hispanic voters simply didn't like the fact that her opponent was black.

But was Bendixen's blanket statement true?

Far from it, and the evidence is overwhelming enough to make you wonder why in the world the Clinton campaign would want to portray Hispanic voters as too unrelentingly racist to vote for Barack Obama.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=713782

[CitizenLeft]

20. wait a minute...

She listed FOUR demographics... and the last 3 - predominantly white, btw - outnumber the black vote. The black vote, in most states, is only 15% of the population or less. Not many blacks in IA, NH, VT, ME, WI and all those little red states that it's so popular to dismiss.

So how is she playing a "race" card?

What am I doing? Why bother.

[merh]

10. and we all know how trustworthy the media is

:eyes:


:freak:

[City Lights]

11. Shout it from the rooftops:

She has been trailing every day since they first started counting votes in Iowa.

G'nite, Hillary. :hi:

[frogcycle]

13. i'm dizzy

[sandnsea]

16. Washington State is bigger than Massachusets

And Obama has won more blue states overall. OH & PA are no more important than MO and CO.

[marions ghost]

18. correction

North Carolina has 134 delegates. PA has 188.

NC is the second biggest prize remaining.

[amborin]

19. LOL...Hillary won the state whose primary outcome predicts GE outcomes

you can't win the GE unless you've won the Ohio primary

[marions ghost]

21. after 2004...

we see how that works in Ohio....

[Scurrilous]

22. K & R

:thumbsup: