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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:59 PM
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Clintons so called "experience" is the biggest paper tiger of them all...
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 12:59 PM by rndmprsn
she needs to be vetted properly and the Obama campaign will help in this endeavour...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/06/736396.aspx

i will not take her word anymore.

...and those tax returns need to be released or she might be considered by some as super-secretive as mr bush...we don't need another one of those in the white house, i think we call ALL agree to that.

oh and when will those white house phone records of her time as first lady be produced for the public...what does she have to hide?

if democrats say they believe in telling the truth and being transparent...then why is clinton trying to hide everything?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:07 PM
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1. "if democrats say they believe in telling the truth and being transparent...
......then why is clinton trying to hide everything?"




Because she's really more Republican than Democrat?
:shrug:
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:14 PM
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3. seems like she couldn't wash that goldwater girl out completely...
did she ever try?
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:26 PM
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12. Here was my surprise
I was really upset and thought more dems would be with how she said she would release her tax form for her buddy McClain and the repubs and not us. Amazing and no one said a thing. When she was running against a repub she would. They would like some of the deals they made overseas and other things that us dems would not vote for her because they did them.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:09 PM
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2. Democrats believe in Open Government which is anathema to Clintons/Bushes
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:14 PM
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4. Obama's people need to look at how she mess up
Arkansas educations system that Bill brags she ran so well. I have posted this a few times to find out if anyone can check out what I heard here in Hawaii from other dems. Hillary's people tried to get dirty with the school Obama went to here and it back fired big time. Well, I heard a story told that Hawaii has always been 50th in the USA in education until Bill put Hillary in charge of Education for Arkansas. Arkansas under Hillary's leadership went to 50th. Is there anyway to see if this is true and then hit her with it. She destroyed education. The Law Rose firm. Mess up health insurance. What has she accomplished and her staff can't answer as we seen in their press conference,
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:15 PM
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6. oh my...with the clintons there are so many targets of opportunity...
and they WILL be brought up...its going to be a LONG 7 weeks for the clintons.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:17 PM
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8. I also saw on here this
She attacked Rick Lazio for not sharing his tax returns when he ran against her. What a hypocrite.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:18 PM
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9. thanks for that one...and welcome to DU
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:29 PM
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13. thank you for showing me that. I always appreciate Hypocrisy. n/t
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:30 PM
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16. It was posted on here the other night
I am new and should have saved the link but maybe someone will come on and have it. It was interesting.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:59 PM
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26. Don't worry about the link, I'm an old timer
And so are you. It does not matter what time you registered.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:34 PM
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22. First we will have to find out if this was when she was running the
State House and White House or this was the time she was making cookies and Bill was filling in for her. I frankly did not know she was voted into office before NY and face it that was on her name or Bills name. As a women I find it madding to see these second rate men go to the top because of their father's name. McCain and Bush are perfect to be classed in that field. Yet Bill Clinton and Obama did it on their own talent. This is why I do not understand this love for Bill's wife who has done all this on his name. She may do a very good job but come on she has not held this high job for years and been doing this stuff. Obama as been out working longer than she has I am sure.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:40 PM
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24. Bill had a much better contact than a dad
He had Fulbright.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:43 PM
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30. They all have help but he was not born into it .
Even Fulbright could see his talent.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:15 PM
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5. you forget
She did spend several years being married to someone who did have talent and watching other people play the game.

Im sure shes ready.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:17 PM
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7. political osmosis...?
she certainly didn't pick up any of his personality or speechifying talents...talk about the biggest bore to watch.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:20 PM
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10. She never had a security clearance so was not in on anything
Wake up people. She did the normal things first ladies do. Bill could not share with her the tough decisions as she was not cleared for it. We can look at her failure to get health care passed and not a very good security guard in planting her office in the west wing and not guarding Bill and his bimbos very well. Will not have this problem with the Obama? Wonder where Bill's office will be in the White House.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:24 PM
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11. Well, she does have 8 years of experience watching her husband deal
with serious changes to our nation. She said so herself. Her national security experience is watching someone else. :eyes:
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:29 PM
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14. But she had not clearance?
Wonder why they did not want a background check for a clearance on her at that time?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:34 PM
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21. No clearance. Maybe she held a glass to the wall to hear what was
going on in the other room. ;-)

Not sure how getting national security works. Could she have gotten it just by asking? :shrug:
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:39 PM
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23. No, she would need a background investigation
I had a top secret and they went out and interview people from where I lived, worked and High school. Maybe they did not want that to happen at the time. I would like to know if we could find the list of names of the people they illegally got their fbi files and how many are super delegates? I would guess they never asked for Obama's as he was not on the radar screen then and so have little on him.
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lmbradford Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 02:27 PM
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27. by your analysis...
Laura Bush is qualified to be president.....after a term as senator of course.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:01 PM
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28. That's Hill's analysis, not mine.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:29 PM
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15. Pointing out that she's almost as inexperienced as Obama is not a winning play for Obama
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:32 PM
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18. No the problem she has with her little experience is
she was a failure.

Mess up education system I am told in Arkansas when Bill gave it to her to run.

Destroyed Rose Law firm she worked at.

Accomplished nothing on the board of walmart.

Health care we all know the disaster that was.

Her own senior staff in a press conference the other day could not answer a thing she had accomplished.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:41 PM
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25. She's less experienced than Obama. That is the point.
She was a Corporate Lawyer.
He was a Community Organizer, a Civil Rights lawyer, and a Constitutional law Professor

She was First Lady for 8 years.
He was a State Senator for 8 years.

She has been a US Senator for 7 years.
He has been one for 3 years.

She has actually served less time in Public Office than he has.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:31 PM
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17. Hillary's experience plays right into the hands of McPain.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:32 PM
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19. my new name for him is "John W Mccain"
i love it
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 01:33 PM
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20. Yes indeed. This idea that Hillary has all this experience coupled with the implication
that the presidency is somehow owed to her irritates me. It is irritating to hear that line about her being vetted and "tried" when we all know that the vetting and trial she experienced came largely from the misconduct of her husband and the attempted coverup of his affairs and her experience was limited for a long time to that of First Lady.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:53 PM
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29. agreed
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