Republican crossover voters apparently helped win the Democratic primary in Texas for Hillary

[dtotire]

Republican crossover voters apparently helped win the Democratic primary in Texas for Hillary Clinton — with one in every 10 Democratic votes came from Republicans.
And they could have been heeding the call of top-rated radio host Rush Limbaugh, who had been urging Republican listeners to vote for Hillary to prevent the Democrats from unifying around Obama and to keep the two candidates battling each other.


http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Texas_GOP_voted_Hillary/2008/03/05/78104.html?s=al&promo_code=469F-1

[BOSSHOG]

1. That may have happened, but

I'd rather not get my info from NEWSMAX.

[TheWraith]

3. How about exit polling? CNN says something like 8-10% of all TX primary voters were Repubs...

And they went four to 1 for Hillary.

[BOSSHOG]

5. I'm sure you would

agree with me that exit polling is probably more accurate then Newsmax.

[anigbrowl]

17. Newsmax is probably just re-reporting the exit poll data

Much as I hate to admit it, though, newsmax is no longer the conservative site you love to hate. There is still some of that but whoever owns it seems to have realized that it's far more valuable as a general news brand than as a wingnut propaganda outlet (like world net daily). They had a base of loyal wingnut readers but it's clear that over time they've shifted (about half way) towards generic news coverage.

Surf over and take a look sometime, it looks nothing like it used to do.

Oh, and ideological purists who say 'I'd NEVER give them the clicks!!!!', know this:

1) advertising prices are generally paid for per click, not per view. So looking doesn't make them money.
2) there aren't so many people here that it would make more than 0.00001% of a difference in their view figures anyhow
3) if you want to win a fight, study your enemy. Not to do so is the sheerest ignorance, and explains why you feel blindsided so often.
4) you're missing out on a ton of free entertainment

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

25. Moritz Law College Reports on GOP crossover for Hillary:

Edward B. Foley Director, Election Law at Law Moritz College of Law advises that:

Blogs at both the Plain Dealer and Dispatch are reporting Republican cross-over votes in the Democratic candidate for Senator Clinton on the ground that she would be an easier nominee for Senator McCain to beat.

It is unclear how widespread this phenomenon is and whether, if calculable, could make a difference in either the statewide total popular vote or the awarding of delegates between Senators Clinton and Obama. There is also the question whether it is legal, and if not, whether it is remediable in any way.

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/freefair/articles.php?ID=367

[rinsd]

29. "newsmax is no longer the conservative site you love to hate"

Easily the dumbest thing said on DU during primary season and that is saying alot.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

31. Ohio GOP roots for Hillary

Ohio GOP roots for Hillary

BY HOWARD WILKINSON | [e-mail]
One of the worst-kept secrets of the Ohio presidential primary is that Republican party leaders have a candidate they are rooting for on the Democratic side.

Her name is Hillary Clinton, and they believe that if she wins the Ohio primary and goes on to become the Democratic nominee, she will be the one who unites their dispirited and divided party and give them their best chance of keeping the White House this fall.

It is a belief that the Clinton campaign says is wrong-headed and they will campaign across the state for the next three weeks making the argument that their battle-tested, experienced candidate is the only one who can go toe-to-toe with John McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee this fall.

more at the link

[samdogmom]

2. Yep! And in November these will be McCain votes.

Get a clue--the GOP WANTS Hillary on the ballot. Beating her will be a cakewalk!

[BOSSHOG]

8. I don't believe thats true

Either dem candidate will beat McCain in November.

[samdogmom]

13. I wish I could say that you're right.

But, I'm not so sure. I don't think Hillary can beat McCain. "The vast right-wing conspiracy" will come back in full force. She's got an uphill (no pun intended) battle if she's the nominee!

[LSparkle]

4. I'm glad some of those Rethugs are now feeling cheated

Because, by voting for Hillary, they screwed themselves
out of being able to vote for Rethug candidates down-
ballot ... Texas was an "open" primary in the sense
that voters could be "Democrats for a day" -- but they
were then limited to the choices on the Democratic
ballot.

Take that, dittoheads!!!

[calimary]

35. That would be a silver lining to this cloud, but I'm concerned about this, myself.

I'm always interested in ANYTHING that involves screwing republi-CONS. What's bad for them is substantially good for all the rest of us.

But I'm afraid that may well be why Hillary won. They're trying to game the system, and help her win because that's who they want to run against. They've had their game plan set for YEARS against a possible Hillary run. They're gonna haul out all the Monica shit and the Whitewater shit and the Travelgate shit and the bimbo eruption and the you-name-it shit. And I fear that this is what we would CONTINUE to be treated to, throughout her four to eight years if she were to go all the way to (and past) November. Just knowing these bastards and how they operate.

I truly do love, and like, Hillary. I was talking to a staunchly pro-Hillary girlfriend of mine earlier today, and I started remembering how I felt on the night Bill got elected the first time. I suddenly was struck by this staggering realization that, for the first time in my sentient life (from maybe late teens/early 20's), I had a First Lady to whom I could relate on a very personal basis. She and I had a LOT in common as far as college and college activism, marriedquite (a guy she met in college), motherhood, while still working, managing stuff, managing people, managing events, blah-blah-blah. She was not far from my age. And she didn't hesitate to speak out or step forward. I could relate to all this intimately, for the first time! Gone were the days of the manipulative, face-lifted, Adolfo-clad harridans and the dowdy but equally-manipulative and hateful grandmas. Here was an early-middle aged professional woman, working mom. One of my generation. Hell, I look at how she's turned out every day and she even dresses like I did. Not only that, but from what I've observed, she knows how to dress deceptively - notice how you DON'T notice her hips and thighs so much? She always dresses to conceal and minimize figure flaws. Son-of-a-gun! I remember REALLY liking the feeling of that. This was all-new. Evidently it was highly significant to me as an issue and a priority, 'cause it sure rang my chimes. I remember that feeling as strongly now as ever. A generational shift had occurred and we had Baby Boomers in the White House for the first time (other than those just visiting). After a lifetime of having the President and First Lady old enough to be my parents, they were now MY age! That was a bolt-of-lightening type of realization for me. Maybe the idea that we were the generation now fully calling the shots and running things. You've arrived if you're running the White House.

So it's a visceral thing that binds me to Hillary Clinton. Another of many reasons why I like her. But it'll be nonstop grief hand-delivered by a relentless bunch of Dark Sider goons who are, as they always were, the real "Sore Losermen." I dread that for myself and for the country. And I'm guessing that many more Americans are, also. What these bastards have done to short-sheet a courageous, brilliant, and genuinely capable woman in her quest to excel in public service - it's just nauseating! Why don't they just pave all over our wilderness and sell it all off to the highest bidder or something? Oh ... oh yeah. I forgot. They're doing that, too. I punched the card for Obama in our state primary. But I was one of millions of women about whom I read - who still were pleased when she carried California. But when I try to think unemotionally and strategically, I keep deciding that Obama is the long-term leader we should be getting behind.

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

6. Corpobots.

Drive 1 hr each way to and from work everyday to sit in a cubicle and pretend that theyre busy.



BUT, at least they get to hear RUSH twice a day.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

7. Let's see... it's from Newsmax, and it's false (Obama won the Republican vote)

Great post.

[anigbrowl]

21. So what's your source?

[golddigger]

9. Fucking Newsmax!1!1! Is this were Obama supporters get their news from?

:puke:

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. Surely you are not claiming that all Republicans voting in TX supported Hillary

Not after all the boasting from the Obama side about how Obama was bringing so many Republicans over to his side with his unity message? After Obama consistently winnig the substantial Republican cross over vote in all of the open primaries and caucuses to date, now you think all the Republicans who voted in the TX Democratic Primary were voting for Hillary? Go back and look at the records yourself, Obama even promoted the theme of Republicans becoming "Democrats for a day" in the past. Ya think Republicans every where else in the country voting in Democratic contests truly love Obama but in Texas the only Republicans voting were dittoheads? That is laughable.

[papau]

11. nonsense - 200,000 emails from the GOP asked folks to vote Obama so as "bury Hillary" - there

were GOP "bury Hillary" bumper stickers -

all we know is that the GOP are voting in the Dem primaries.

If it is a primary that Obama won then GOP votes are a good thing as he is bringing new faces into party.

If it is a primary Hiullary won, then it is a bad thing as they are trying to stop Obama

And of course the above two statements work with Hillary and Obama reversed.

Finally - we have no clue how anyone really voted - indeed the GOP HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO LIE IN EXIT POLLS

[anigbrowl]

24. Evidence please

I don't find anything on the net about this 'bury hillary' email.

Individual GOPers may well lie in exit polls, but on aggregate those lies tend to cancel each other out.

[BenDavid]

12. NOPE! you are wrong....Out of the 9% of the Republicans that

voted in Texas the majoirty of the 9% voted for Obama.....TRUTH! so stop....

[tammywammy]

14. I personally know some republicans that voted for Hillary in the TX primary

They each said they think she's the weaker candidate against McCain.

They'll vote McCain in November.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. One of the women I volunteered with in TX

Told me that she met a man who said he was voting for McCain at her poll. He bragged that he'd been working on the HRC campaign the last few months. :wow:

[bluestateguy]

15. Exit Poll: Obama wins Republican vote in TX, 53%-46%

Then again, maybe Republican saboteurs might not talk to an exit pollster, so we can't be certain.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#TXDEM

[BenDavid]

27. thanks and it makes HRC victory more the sweeter knowing

republicans went with obama.....and you obama folks could not say, the only reason she won texas was because republicans voted for her....

[seabeyond]

16. of course they did. i watched them in amarillo. i knew people who did it

and they had been talking about doing it for a while

[ourbluenation]

18. She won the conservative vote. n/t

[nonconformist]

36. Odd, since Obama won the Republican vote and Hillary won the Democratic vote. nt

[ourbluenation]

39. perhaps, but she won the conservative vote too. n/t

[patrice]

20. It makes sense that what with their relative dis-satisfaction with all of their (now defunct) candid

ates, and with their presumptive heir to King George already crowned, many many Republicans would turn their attentions to task #2 on their to-do list: pick the Democratic candidate that they want to run against. I think there are Repuglicans who calculate that that's HC and some think it is BO, so I would bet it is happening in both campaigns. The questions are how much of it is going on in the respective campaigns and who is right about whom Americans will turn most negative on.

[rinsd]

22. Another Newsmax post from an Obama "supporter"

He really is appealing to the other side of the aisle :puke:

[anigbrowl]

28. The facts happen to be correct though

It's basically saying the same thing as CNN's exit polling.

[babylonsister]

32. Will Dallas Morning News work?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4926614

[rinsd]

40. All repeating the same BS Reason article.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

23. Thats Rush Limbaugh Country for sure

and also home of GW.

Not surprising.

[Onlooker]

26. LOL. You're buying into Republican desperation tactics!

They have been blaming their defections on this for quite awhile. There was a point earlier in the primary season when they were claiming that Republicans were voting for Obama because they thought he was the weaker candidate.

[golddigger]

30. Newsmax, what a joke. I bet you have one of those Coulter Pent up calendars too.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

34. Moritze College of Law in Ohio is another source for GOP/Hillary voting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4929528&mesg_id=4930159

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

33. note GOP heeded Limbaugh call in Ohio too

look up thread to see Moritz Law references.

GOPers voted for Hillary in Ohio.

[lmbradford]

37. except she didn't win......

Obama gained more delegates there so he ACTUALLY won. All the BS about other stuff is just nonsense. This is a delegate race..........

[MagickMuffin]

38. I would wager there were some in my caucus, because of their statements

while waiting for the caucus to start.

You know like the "Obama won't place his hand on the bible" "Obama is a muslim"

These old geezers were the rudest bunch of people I have experienced in my community. One old lady raised her fist at my hubby.
They threatened to leave without signing in, hubby told them they didn't have to stay, that they could leave at any time, then they accused him of trying to disenfranchise them:crazy:

There was a group of eight of them. They were clustered together, grumpy, and not informed about the caucus. They only wanted to sign in and leave, which is exactly what they did. They weren't interested in being delegates, they only wanted to cause trouble.

I was even accused of changing the sign in sheets, because I was the permanent secretary in charge of handing the paper work over to the TCDP.

And no I didn't change anything. I handed over my paper work yesterday to the local Democratic office.

[tandem5]

41. I know I know... when republican's vote for Obama it speaks to his...

unifying abilities. When they crossover for Clinton they're doing it to disrupt our election. Thank god more crossed over to vote for Obama!