It's been 2 days since Hillary's "wins".. why hasn't a SINGLE SD come out for her in the interim?

[scheming daemons]

While already a half-dozen uncommitted SDs have come out for Obama?


If Tuesday was a "sea change" in this campaign.... why hasn't her SD number moved AT ALL?



The SDs continue breaking for Obama... nothing has changed in the trajectory of the race.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Could be because she had a net gain of five delegates or so

and she will be trailing in pledged delegates heading into the convention.

[skooooo]

3. Fewer delegates ===

losing the nomination, no matter the spin.

[saracat]

2. Maybe she isn't threatening SD's like it is reported the Obama Camp does?

[shadowknows69]

6. Reported where?

[yodermon]

16. reported right here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4930043&mesg_id=4930072

:rofl:

[kwenu]

46. LOL!!!! That's funny.

[stillcool]

54. Did you see the quoted

version? No. I didn't think so. Funny what a difference what was actually said is, isn't it?

Black Lawmakers Rethink Clinton Support
February 15, 2008 - 1:33am
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., gestures while speaking at a campaign stop at The Ohio State University, in Columbus, Ohio, Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
By DAVID ESPO
AP Special Correspondent
WASHINGTON (AP) - In a fresh sign of trouble for Hillary Rodham Clinton, one of the former first lady's congressional black supporters intends to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention, and a second, more prominent lawmaker is openly discussing a possible switch.

Rep. David Scott's defection and Rep. John Lewis' remarks highlight one of the challenges confronting Clinton in a campaign that pits a black man against a woman for a nomination that historically has been the exclusive property of white men.

"You've got to represent the wishes of your constituency," Scott said in an interview Wednesday in the Capitol. "My proper position would be to vote the wishes of my constituents." The third-term lawmaker represents a district that gave more than 80 percent of its vote to Obama in the Feb. 5 Georgia primary.

Lewis, whose Atlanta-area district voted 3-to-1 for Obama, said he is not ready to abandon his backing for the former first lady. But several associates said the nationally known civil rights figure has become increasingly torn about his early endorsement of Clinton. They spoke on condition of anonymity, citing private conversations.

-----------------------
Clinton's recent string of eight primary and caucus defeats coincides with an evident shift in momentum in the contest for support from party officials who will attend the convention. The former first lady still holds a sizable lead among the roughly 800 so-called superdelegates, who are chosen outside the primary and caucus system.

But Christine Samuels, until this week a Clinton superdelegate from New Jersey, said during the day she is now supporting Obama.

Two other superdelegates, Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania and Nancy Larson of Minnesota, are uncommitted, having dropped their earlier endorsements of Clinton.

On Wednesday, David Wilhelm, a longtime ally of the Clintons who had been neutral in the presidential race, endorsed Obama.

The comments by Scott and Lewis reflect pressure on Clinton's black supporters, particularly elected officials, not to stand in the way of what is plainly the best chance in history to have an African-American president.

"Nobody could see this" in advance, Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking black in Congress, said of Obama's emergence. He is officially neutral in the race, but expressed his irritation earlier in the year with remarks that Clinton and her husband the former president had made about civil rights history.

One black supporter of Clinton, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, said he remains committed to her. "There's nothing going on right now that would cause me to" change, he said.

He said any suggestion that elected leaders should follow their voters "raises the age old political question. Are we elected to monitor where our constituents are ... or are we to use our best judgment to do what's in the best interests of our constituents."
In an interview, Cleaver offered a glimpse of private conversations.

He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

"I told him I'd think about it," Cleaver concluded.

Jackson, an Obama supporter, confirmed the conversation, and said the dilemma may pose a career risk for some black politicians. "Many of these guys have offered their support to Mrs. Clinton, but Obama has won their districts. So you wake up without the carpet under your feet. You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position" in the future, he added.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1713596,00.html

[stop the bleeding]

75. good one

:spank:

[skooooo]

10. If there is criminal activity..

..why haven't there been any arrests?

:shrug:

What kind of threats have there been? Maybe you can provide some evidence? or maybe you're talking out of your buttocks?

[dansolo]

72. I thought the "threats" were primary challenges

But the Clinton supporters like to suggest that there were physical threats.

[Dawgs]

12. Link?

Or are you talking about the pressure put on some by other SD's, just like Bill has been reported doing?

[saracat]

34. The Politico is reporting it

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8762.html

“African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats they’ll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.

“This is the politics of the 1950s,” he complained. “A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They’re not going to talk about it, but it’s happening.”

After civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) switched his support from Clinton to Obama earlier this week, other black superdelegates have come under renewed pressure to do a similar about-face. A handful have bowed to the entreaties in recent weeks, including Georgia Rep. David Scott, but many say they are steadfast in their support for Clinton and resent strong-arm tactics to make them change.

Rep. Diane E. Watson (D-Calif.), a black lawmaker and Clinton backer, said the intense lobbying for Obama would not alter her vote.

“I’ve gotten threatening mail,” Watson said. “They say, ‘Your district went 61-29 Obama and you need to change.’ But I don’t intimidate. I can hold the ground. … I would lose my seat over my principles.”

[Dawgs]

53. They are quoting a Hillary supporter.

Excuse me if that makes me a little skeptical.

[stillcool]

57. did you read this part?

“Some members are threatening to vote against their constituents, and perhaps against the will of the American people, by casting their superdelegate vote for Sen. Clinton,” the ColorOfChange.org website reads. “We can prevent this from happen by letting black leadership know we're watching.”

[EmilyAnne]

70. How the hell is that intimidating?

OMG! Call 911!! I got a letter that says I should change my vote to reflect the will of the people in my district!! Scary stuff. How DARE these people contact me!

[laugle]

71. Thanks for this enlightening post!

Don't forget Jesse Jackson Jr., employing the same tactics his father has used with corporation's for many years.

I get sick of Obama supporters whining about Hillary doing anything to win, when Obama's tactics are about his surrogates bullying/intimidating people into voting for him, while he looks speaky clean!

I heard people calling in to talk radio complaining about the same thing, and they are just ordinary voters!

[EmilyAnne]

74. Is that you, Bill Clinton? What the hell does Jesse Jackson have to do with this?

[cali]

39. uh, no. that's loony tunes. First of all the only SDs supposedly

being threatened were AS SDs who had endorsed Clinton. These are SDs who had not heretofor, endorsed anyone. And most of them aren't AA. So, your lame little dig is utter bullshit. You can't handle the fact that Obama will be the nominee. Too bad.

[saracat]

44. So its okay with you that AA SD's are threatened? Nice.

[cali]

45. So you put words in my mouth.? How fucked up can you possibly

get? I said no such thing. There's nothing slimier than saying someone said something they clearly did not say. It's called lying.

[saracat]

50. Maybe I should use the "sarcasm thingy" ? But you DID say

"First of all the only SDs supposedly being threatened were AS SDs who had endorsed Clinton" The Use of "ONLY" somewhat implies that they don't matter! I am sure you didn't mean it that way.

[stillcool]

56. Sounds like your Canada/Nafta bullshit

why don't you just stick to the BLACK_BARACK_REZKO_HUSSEIN_SCARY_OSAMA_OBAMA ?

Black Lawmakers Rethink Clinton Support
February 15, 2008 - 1:33am
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., gestures while speaking at a campaign stop at The Ohio State University, in Columbus, Ohio, Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
By DAVID ESPO
AP Special Correspondent
WASHINGTON (AP) - In a fresh sign of trouble for Hillary Rodham Clinton, one of the former first lady's congressional black supporters intends to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention, and a second, more prominent lawmaker is openly discussing a possible switch.

Rep. David Scott's defection and Rep. John Lewis' remarks highlight one of the challenges confronting Clinton in a campaign that pits a black man against a woman for a nomination that historically has been the exclusive property of white men.

"You've got to represent the wishes of your constituency," Scott said in an interview Wednesday in the Capitol. "My proper position would be to vote the wishes of my constituents." The third-term lawmaker represents a district that gave more than 80 percent of its vote to Obama in the Feb. 5 Georgia primary.

Lewis, whose Atlanta-area district voted 3-to-1 for Obama, said he is not ready to abandon his backing for the former first lady. But several associates said the nationally known civil rights figure has become increasingly torn about his early endorsement of Clinton. They spoke on condition of anonymity, citing private conversations.


Clinton's recent string of eight primary and caucus defeats coincides with an evident shift in momentum in the contest for support from party officials who will attend the convention. The former first lady still holds a sizable lead among the roughly 800 so-called superdelegates, who are chosen outside the primary and caucus system.

But Christine Samuels, until this week a Clinton superdelegate from New Jersey, said during the day she is now supporting Obama.

Two other superdelegates, Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania and Nancy Larson of Minnesota, are uncommitted, having dropped their earlier endorsements of Clinton.

On Wednesday, David Wilhelm, a longtime ally of the Clintons who had been neutral in the presidential race, endorsed Obama.

The comments by Scott and Lewis reflect pressure on Clinton's black supporters, particularly elected officials, not to stand in the way of what is plainly the best chance in history to have an African-American president.

"Nobody could see this" in advance, Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking black in Congress, said of Obama's emergence. He is officially neutral in the race, but expressed his irritation earlier in the year with remarks that Clinton and her husband the former president had made about civil rights history.

One black supporter of Clinton, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, said he remains committed to her. "There's nothing going on right now that would cause me to" change, he said.

He said any suggestion that elected leaders should follow their voters "raises the age old political question. Are we elected to monitor where our constituents are ... or are we to use our best judgment to do what's in the best interests of our constituents."
In an interview, Cleaver offered a glimpse of private conversations.

He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

"I told him I'd think about it," Cleaver concluded.

Jackson, an Obama supporter, confirmed the conversation, and said the dilemma may pose a career risk for some black politicians. "Many of these guys have offered their support to Mrs. Clinton, but Obama has won their districts. So you wake up without the carpet under your feet. You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position" in the future, he added.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1713596,00.html

[saracat]

60. Disgusting article and disgusting

point about the important thing being that a "black man make history". That is what is wrong with this race.it isn't about issues or qualifications.

[stillcool]

61. disgusting!!

that someone who's constituents voted for Obama is sticking to Hillary? Disgusting that a Black Congressman would question that pledge, in terms of how it reflects the vote of his constituents? Disgusting that a Black Congressman would question such a pledge as deliberately denying a black man's chance of becoming the President of the United States by going against the will of his constituents? Disgusting!!!

[saracat]

62. Exactly why is a black man's chance any more important than a woman's of any color? Or a white man'

This is racist crap.

[stillcool]

77. youza...I guess you really can't understand..

and I'm really sorry for that. Both these candidates are qualified. I am absolutely thrilled that this country would seriously consider a Black Man or Woman as a candidate for the President of this country. It blows my mind, because I am so aware, especially from reading posts here, about how much Black people are still feared, and hated. I have read so many times, how very proud people are to be voting for a woman for the first time in their life. There is a Congresswoman who's constituents voted for Hillary, but she has chosen to support Obama for whatever reason. Another female Congresswoman questions her support of Obama, and says "Don't you want to support the first female President ever? Especially since your constituents voted for her? Isn't that Disgusting!!! And don't you just hate Hillary for that?

[saracat]

78. It is wrong to vote for either race or gender. But I really resent it when I

am told the first black male president is "More" important than the first female president.If we are going to have that argument, women waited longer for their rights than Black males. But this isn't the reason people should be voting.Neither of these candidates are whom I would have picked but the sexism directed to the Clinton campaign has been outrageous. It seems like racism is abhorrent to the liberal community but sexism is tolerated.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

80. Thanks for your concern, saracat. nt

[catgirl]

48. What drugs are you on?

Just because the Superdelegates believe Obama is the better choice,
means he is threatening them? LOL.

[saracat]

52. Same drugs as Rep. Cleaver??????

African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats they’ll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.

“This is the politics of the 1950s,” he complained. “A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They’re not going to talk about it, but it’s happening.”

[catgirl]

63. You accused the "Obama camp" of threatening SDs.

Cleaver's statement does not mention the Obama camp as threatening anyone. There
are lists of Superdelegates all over the place. I doubt that anyone from Obama's camp
would do that.

[saracat]

64. Jesse Jackson JR. isn't an Obama supporter/ What do you think he means by

"implying " that they might face "challangers" in the primary?

[catgirl]

67. You're avoiding my response

that there isn't anyone pointing to the OBAMA CAMPAIGN in their
complaints. Your wrong in your statement. And so far, you haven't
backed it up. Therefore, it is misleading at best.

[stillcool]

55. I'm sure you've read...

the part where Representative Cleaver said he was never pressured. And, I am sure you've read this article. Please provide me with who exactly was pressuring who. Or just keep spreading nasty rumors.

Black Lawmakers Rethink Clinton Support
February 15, 2008 - 1:33am
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., gestures while speaking at a campaign stop at The Ohio State University, in Columbus, Ohio, Thursday, Feb. 14, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
By DAVID ESPO
AP Special Correspondent
WASHINGTON (AP) - In a fresh sign of trouble for Hillary Rodham Clinton, one of the former first lady's congressional black supporters intends to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention, and a second, more prominent lawmaker is openly discussing a possible switch.

Rep. David Scott's defection and Rep. John Lewis' remarks highlight one of the challenges confronting Clinton in a campaign that pits a black man against a woman for a nomination that historically has been the exclusive property of white men.

"You've got to represent the wishes of your constituency," Scott said in an interview Wednesday in the Capitol. "My proper position would be to vote the wishes of my constituents." The third-term lawmaker represents a district that gave more than 80 percent of its vote to Obama in the Feb. 5 Georgia primary.

Lewis, whose Atlanta-area district voted 3-to-1 for Obama, said he is not ready to abandon his backing for the former first lady. But several associates said the nationally known civil rights figure has become increasingly torn about his early endorsement of Clinton. They spoke on condition of anonymity, citing private conversations.

-----------------------
Clinton's recent string of eight primary and caucus defeats coincides with an evident shift in momentum in the contest for support from party officials who will attend the convention. The former first lady still holds a sizable lead among the roughly 800 so-called superdelegates, who are chosen outside the primary and caucus system.

But Christine Samuels, until this week a Clinton superdelegate from New Jersey, said during the day she is now supporting Obama.

Two other superdelegates, Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania and Nancy Larson of Minnesota, are uncommitted, having dropped their earlier endorsements of Clinton.

On Wednesday, David Wilhelm, a longtime ally of the Clintons who had been neutral in the presidential race, endorsed Obama.

The comments by Scott and Lewis reflect pressure on Clinton's black supporters, particularly elected officials, not to stand in the way of what is plainly the best chance in history to have an African-American president.

"Nobody could see this" in advance, Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking black in Congress, said of Obama's emergence. He is officially neutral in the race, but expressed his irritation earlier in the year with remarks that Clinton and her husband the former president had made about civil rights history.

One black supporter of Clinton, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, said he remains committed to her. "There's nothing going on right now that would cause me to" change, he said.

He said any suggestion that elected leaders should follow their voters "raises the age old political question. Are we elected to monitor where our constituents are ... or are we to use our best judgment to do what's in the best interests of our constituents."
In an interview, Cleaver offered a glimpse of private conversations.

He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

"I told him I'd think about it," Cleaver concluded.

Jackson, an Obama supporter, confirmed the conversation, and said the dilemma may pose a career risk for some black politicians. "Many of these guys have offered their support to Mrs. Clinton, but Obama has won their districts. So you wake up without the carpet under your feet. You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position" in the future, he added.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1713596,00.html

by the way...did you enjoy this?
Did you enjoy this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[seabeyond]

4. she won two. obama won two. n/t

[ryanmuegge]

5. This whole thing is becoming appalling.

[BigDaddy44]

33. oh please.....

This is politics. Its always been this way and always will be. Bare knuckle, bloody, hand to hand politics. Can we please dispense with the idea that somehow we're "different" this year? Grow up. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent, and there's no prize for second place.

Also, this campaign is NOTHING compared to some of the contests of old. This is still a relative pillow fight.

[ryanmuegge]

47. The appalling thing about it is that they are, by their own admission, 95% similar.

It's a race of personal vanity. It'd be one thing if they were significantly different from one another. I don't see any justification (other than the money and egos of the two candidates involved) for this kind of fight between candidates who are basically the same on policy. They seem to be putting their own vanity above the good of the party.

No one is saying that politics isn't dirty, but one candidate can't win mathematically (outside of the superdelegates going against the will of the voters) and she is still in the race. This year IS different because of that. Personally, I don't care who wins this, but I'm concerned about the ramifications of Hillary being chosen by the superdelegates may have on the general election. I just want to see a Democrat win the White House (officially) for once.

[ORDagnabbit]

7. because people are finally seeing a difference between clinton and obama

Like I've said I'm a kucinich guy and considered both clinton and obama corporate tools.

over the last couple of weeks Clinton has outshone herself as a corporate tool who will stop at nothing (attack ads, lies and nefarious means) to take down her opponent and her own party.

I am tired of her type of politics and I'm tired of her

[BenDavid]

8. Wouldn't you hate to be John Lewis today? He threw Hillary

under the bus to join "certain victory" with the "inevitable, unstoppable Obama juggernaut."

Kinda sad!

[Dawgs]

14. Why is it sad?

He isn't inevitable and unstoppable? If you think he is, prove it.

[skooooo]

18. Looks pretty inevitable to me..

....unless Hillary gets her way and cheats somehow.

[scheming daemons]

23. Obama's STILL inevitable.... . you and Hillary are just in denial...

..

[angie_love]

66. Leave John Lewis alone. He is a fucking hero. Did more for this country than you ever will.

Got his head bashed in for equal rights and nearly killed. He earned the right to do whatever the FUCK HE WANTS. So no you don't get the right to flame him. Ass.

[Perky]

9. That shou be Hillary's momentous wins" hee hee

[razorman]

11. Apparently, her wins are not that clear cut.

Everything I read says that the delegate numbers still favor Obama. I do not completely understand how it all works, but most "experts" seem to think that it is almost impossible for Hillary to overtake Obama. Being professional politicians, I expect the undecided "superdelegates" lack the intestinal fortitude to actually take a stand unless the ultimate winner is obvious. Then they will run ahead of the parade to lead it.

[zulchzulu]

13. The Superdelegates are waiting until next week to jump over to Obama's side

[Cha]

43. Why next week, zulch?

Do ya think?

[LSparkle]

15. I'm also curious about why the 50 or so SDs for Obama haven't come out

I heard Hillary was trying to "freeze" them -- anyone know
the latest on this (when they may come out for Obama)?

[City Lights]

17. I heard they were going to be rolled out slowly rather than as a bloc to

keep the momentum going.

[Levgreee]

22. Also, it would be percieved worse coming out after a "loss". better to come out after Obama victory

[americanstranger]

29. I have a theory on this that I posted elsewhere today.

They've got the delegates, but I think they realized that announcing all 50 at once would nullify it as a continuing story.

So I think they pulled back on the idea of doing 50 at once in favor of dropping one or two a day between now and the PA primary.

Controlling news cycles between now and PA is crucial (as the astute Perky pointed out on the other thread), and besides getting a story every news cycle about SDs going to Obama, they can use the total number as a major talking point in the week before PA (something like, 'Since Senator Clinton's supposed big wins in Ohio and Rhode Island, the Obama campaign has picked up 50 superdelegates!')

The net effect will be the same when it needs to count, but they get the added benefit of having the story repeat itself 50 times between now and the PA primary. Pretty smart, if that's what they're doing. And if they're not, they should.

- as

[cali]

41. They are coming out

9 in the last two days. Or is it 10?

[Tesha]

19. They're not fools. (NT)

[Kaylee]

20. Very perceptive.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

21. Cuz she revealed how she luvs her some John McCain. nt

[kentuck]

24. They don't have to.

They can keep their support for her silent until the right time.

[scheming daemons]

27. Not if she wants to generate an air of "momentum" around her Tuesday "wins"....

By sitting back and watching the constant trickle of SD's publicly joining Obama, she is letting her "momentum" slip away.

Trust me... if she had a cache of SDs waiting to come out for her, they would be doing so NOW... to build on the idea that Tuesday was a "sea change" in this campaign.


By the time Mississippi rolls around, all of her "gains" on Tuesday will have been wiped out by Obama's new SDs.

[KittyWampus]

37. her whole bogus fairytale about going to Convention and netting them is all she's got left

sorry, your suggestion is unlikely.

There may be a few left who will announce for her.

But the story last week is she was looking to "freeze" the super delegates.

The latest announcements about super delegates aren't just about them going to Obama. They have been defecting from her.

[anigbrowl]

73. OOoh, the 'right time' Mere mortals aren't privileged to know.

Yeah, they're holding off to make a bigger surprise. Reality: Clinton doesn't have any momentum with SDs.

[cbayer]

25. Another question,

Why have the SD's previously poised to back Obama not done so?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=asCl6E69RQRY&refer=home

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/03/06/2008-03-06_hillary_clintons_wins_in_texas_ohio_keep.html

[skooooo]

31. They have their own time table..

..it's been explained in other threads. Don't worry, they're there.

[scheming daemons]

32. They have... they've trickled out 3 yesterday, and 4 more today....

...they are spreading the 50 over several days....


If all 50 came out at once, it would've looked TOO staged.


By trickling them over a couple of weeks, it makes each one of them

A) appear to be JUST making up their minds

and

B) each of them get more of a spotlight for themselves instead of being anonymous in a large "group".



It's a brilliant strategy.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

26. Maybe it has something to do w/ the fact that she did not actually win in the true sense of the word

[skooooo]

28. Maybe the SDs think math counts...

Afterall, Obama has the most delegates. Maybe they're looking at that ?????

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. The funny thing is, I think there's been at least one SD, maybe two, to come out for Obama. . . .

That should tell you something about where their heads are at.

[cali]

42. huh, there have been at least 8 in the last couple of days

and it could be more like 9 or 10. Hard to keep track.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. I happily stand corrected!

[DJ13]

30. Obama has gained more delegates since the Tuesday primaries...

....than Hillary gained by winning the Tuesday primaries.

:rofl:

[blocker]

35. She cannot win unless she cheats period!!!

I think the democratic party is intelligent enough to do the math!

[grantcart]

36. Technically Boxer was moved into her column but that was based

on her statement that she was following the wishes of the CA primary decision. She indicated that she did not publicly endorse her and would not campaign for her.

Pretty damning considering they are very close friend and that their families have intermarried.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

40. I was in the SDS and I would never support Hillary.

But, I did support Jane Fonda.

[MadAndy]

49. Why would Dem SDs support the Repugs choice? eom

[Beregond2]

58. SDs

Because the SDs can add, and they know there is no point in siding with the loser.

[Window]

59. They are probably appalled at her 'kitchen sink' strategy.

I hope she never receives another one.

[nomorewhopper]

65. the dem party establishment hates hillary

they aren't making her leave the race out of loyalty, but they hate her nevertheless.

she's pissed off so many people, she'll have to really have a strong case to make any SD's switch over to her side.

[DrFunkenstein]

68. The Flying Monkeys Only Back Her From Fear of Retribution

There is no actual desire to see her succeed, let alone show up at the top of their ticket.

[amborin]

69. 'cause Obama has paid them so much $$$$$

[laconicsax]

76. A few have--saw it on Abrams

clip

[meow mix]

79. damn..

:spank: :rofl:

[anonymous171]

81. Because her "momentum" is media hype. End of story.

[Blondiegrrl]

82. She's gained 2 since Tuesday. But Obama has gained 6 in the same time frame. eom