kentuck
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:05 PM
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All he has is his credibility. |
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Did Barack Obama advise his aides to tell Canadian officials to "take with a grain of salt" his criticisms about NAFTA? If that is true, then that is a serious knock on his credibility. Many of his supporters will desert him over such an issue. Much like when Bill Clinton had his little fling with Monica Lewinsky, people were disappointed that he would put himself into such a position. It hurt him, contrary to the favorable polls on his Presidency at the end. Bill Clinton lost a lot of credibility with a lot of people over that minor issue.
If Obama was leading his supporters and the American people to believe one thing but was doing something entirely different behind their backs, that will hurt him also. He cannot afford to lose his credibility. That is much of his appeal.
I do understand that there are stories out there that say it was Hillary's camp, not Obama's, that sent that message to the Canadians. Logically, that would make more sense. The Clintons would naturally have more allies in the Canadian government than the novice, Obama. However, at this point, we do not know the truth about this matter. There is a lot of obfuscation. Obama cannot stand this type of strike upon his credibility. If he did not advise his people, then he should make it clear to his supporters exactly what happened, rather than just let it blow over.
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:08 PM
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1. They hurt him, allright. It was temporary, but this could |
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have been over by now. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/181749.phpBrodie said "someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:11 PM
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2. I think he should have dismissed Goolsbee or whoever |
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spoke to the Canadians. It would have sent the message that this is HIS campaign and if his surrogates or staffers aren't keeping him in the loop on their communications, they're going to be sacked ... Had Obama himself known about this, he would have had the chance to counter it but he was caught in the dark -- a sign that he wasn't in control of his campaign (at that point anyway).
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:12 PM
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3. maybe obama should heal the "hole in his soul" first before |
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he lays hands on the rest of us.....
Who was it that got us to stop fighting the Bush bastards so we could fight each other? Who gained power by splitting the party and getting Democrats to fight Democrats? The answer to both is obama and his campaign...
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tabatha
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:13 PM
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5. You post such utter crap. |
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:17 PM
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8. What? "Hole in his soul"? "Split the party"? LOL |
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:59 PM
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11. PROJECTION-you are talking to yourself. |
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and you aren't listening.
:shrug:
peace~
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tabatha
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:12 PM
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has NEVER, NEVER been attributed to Obama.
If you want to read what Obama's adviser was summarized to have said, go to the Clinton site and read the memo.
Obama's adviser has said that the memo mis-characterizes what he said. The Canadian govt has confirmed that.
Obama had no part of this contact, and was not aware of it having been made.
End of story for Obama. Many questions for Clinton.
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kentuck
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:14 PM
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6. I have not heard Obama confirm that. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 03:15 PM by kentuck
only you. We need to hear that from the horse's mouth. The issue is too clouded for anyone to say what is a fact and what is not a fact at this time.
edit: typo
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:14 PM
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7. Obama himself did not go to the meeting |
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Even if he had, you meet with people, you nod, you share ideas, some differing, then you go home and assess what you learned. A meeting by a subordinate is not in any way damning to Obama. It's like how he has said he will meet with unpopular foriegn leaders, (a smart idea), it doesn't mean you agree with them. Plus, NAFTA and trade are compicated issues. In Ohio NAFTA is hated, in Texas it is liked.
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:46 PM
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9. He got punked on this NAFTA issue.. |
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:51 PM
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10. Obama did NOT send an advisor to warn Canadians about NAFTA--that |
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has been proven. Hillary, however, did--according to the Canadian government. That has yet to be investigated. Stop with this "it's too muddy, they both did it" stuff.
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Thu Mar-06-08 05:08 PM
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12. Obviously it is very clear to you... |
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I can only speak for myself.
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