Nader-hating Dem loyalists: were Kerry to pick McCain, you would...

[ulysses]

edit: can we get some testimony from the "other" folks? :)

[NoPasaran]

1. A toss up

Either leave the country or shoot myself.

[Frances]

2. It ain't going to happen

[ulysses]

4. I don't think it will either

but it's certainly being circulated. I suspect we're being primed for a centrist Dem with a record similar to McCain's (although probably pro-choice).

[flaminbats]

47. The only way it would happen..when McCain switches parties

he'll become the leading contender on Kerry's list.

[Art_from_Ark]

57. What's likely is that Kerry will pick a Southerner

You'd have to go all the way back to 1944 (Roosevelt-Truman) to find an election the Democrats won that didn't have at least one Southerner on the ticket.

[w13rd0]

3. I'd find a way to keep a Bush voter away from the polls...

...and consider it a wash.

[Fovea]

5. I can't imagine

any rational reason why he would.

[Glenn H]

6. Kerry/anyone over Bush

I'd vote for a Kerry/Satan ticket to get Bush and his core of PNAC out of office. McCain is ok, at least he understands the PNAC crappola and rejects it.

Nader is a non-person IMHO. He can only be a spoiler for Kerry and his constant whining about the 'censorship' of the Democrats is laughable.

[newyawker99]

28. Hi Glenn H!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[apnu]

55. I second that! (eom)

[swag]

7. I would rather spend time and energy

getting ideas on how to ensure good outcomes in November than in worrying over Nader and McCain.

We need Bush, DeLay, Frist and crew out.

[Zorra]

8. I've been fighting against republicans all of my life.

They have just about destroyed my country. To me they are the enemies of democracy, and have prevented the United States from becoming the nation envisioned by the Founding Fathers.

If John Kerry picks a republican for a running mate, that would prove to me that the Democratic Party had irrevocably compromised its ideology and principles.

I don't hate Nader, I just don't want him to run. But at least he has a democratic platform. McCain is a republican.

I vote against republicans, not for them, and I never support their candidacy.

No Democrat does.

[Armstead]

9. Not relevant. ...Kerry will pick some centrist Democrat tool

Some DINO like Bill Richardson.

I'd almost rather see him and McCain run, but it'll be some Democratic milquetoast.

(Sorry, do I sound a little frustrated?)

[Hippo_Tron]

13. Explain how Richardson is a DINO please n/t

[Armstead]

32. Richardson is hard-core DLC

He's a centrist of the DLC striupe big time.

I think he's a good guy, but he's a Democrat of the pale shade of a Republican type.

[ulysses]

14. nah.

Sunny as ever, my friend. :D

[jfxgillis]

10. Other: Vote for Kerry/McCain

LAUGHING the whole time.

[askew]

11. Other voter offering testimony.

I would write in a candidate or not vote on the presidental ticket, but on the other races. Being pro-choice is a litmus test issue for me for various reasons. I am not all that fond of Kerry, so I need the VP candidate to at least meet some basic requirements for me. And I don't think Nader is qualified to be President.

[Hippo_Tron]

12. Other... Vote for Kerry because VP is a worthless job...

And should Kerry die or have to enact succession for some reason, I'd much rather McCain as president than chimp.

[DEM FAN]

15. I Would Vote Kerry-McCain. At Least You Know Where McCain Stands.

I Would Have Not Have Any Problem With This Ticket. :-)

[SpongeBob]

22. And do you LIKE where McCain stands?

[newyawker99]

29. Hi SpongeBob!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[SpongeBob]

37. Thanks!

And for those interested, here are McCain's positions on the issues:
http://www.vote-smart.org/npat.php?can_id=S0061103

[SheilaT]

16. What if Kerry selects

Britney Spears? That would get the youth vote. Or maybe Mel Gibson -- all the happy viewers of his movie would surely vote for that ticket.

See how absurd the McCain thing is?

How many times does it have to be posted, MCCAIN IS A REPUBLICAN. We have two major political parties, and each one nominates its own guys for various offices, including president and vice president. Please stop wasting so much energy, unless you want to consider more silly speculations.

How about Jacques Cousteau? That would get all the environmentalists aboard. I'm sure his being deceased won't matter much.

Or Julia Child? I could go on.

[ulysses]

17. hey, it's being put out there.

:shrug:

[SheilaT]

18. Not by anyone who has any clear understanding

of the two party system.

[mountainvue]

20. What if McCain

switched parties? It's happened before.

[fujiyama]

19. Go to a proctocoligist or a urologist

(whichever type of doctor that specializes in animals flying out of asses), because I'd have purple monkeys flying out of my ass when that happens.

McCain's a republican. We'll leave it at that.

[SpongeBob]

21. I don't hate Nader because I'm a Dem loyalist...

I almost voted for Nader, but I'm so glad I didn't. He showed nothing but contempt for those whose votes were stolen in 2000 (including all of us Gore-voters). He also got money from the Republicans for his ads on the west coast.
As far as McCain goes, he's a loyal Republican, and a reactionary piece of garbage who was one of only two senators to vote against federal money for NY after 9/11. I don't love Kerry, but I will vote for him just to get us out of the clutches of the right-wing conspirators (the current Republican regime and all their loyal lackeys).

23. Vote for Kerry/ABB

That was what I was told post Iowa when Dean came in third.
Anybody but Bush, it was like a mantra.

I would vote Kerry/McCain in a nanosecond. Who cares where McCain stands on any issue, right?

Repeat the mantra...

Anybody But Bush
Anybody But Bush
Anybody But Bush

[Piperay]

24. Vote Kerry

no matter who he chooses...I want chimp out.

[buddhamama]

25. other : don't know

if i were a Kerry campaign strategist i'd push him toward Jesse "the Body" Ventura.

positive aspects:
Military experience
He has government experience (hehehe)
He's member of a third party that appeals to Independent/Libertarian types. And not a member of the opposition party.
His view on religion would attract atheists etc.

It'll be a centrist that resembles McCain, only real difference will be party affiliation. :-(

[buddhamama]

27. ......

Ventura continued. Thanks to A Prairie Home Companion middle america/liberals have a whole new "appreciation" for the man.

edited for spelling

[saracat]

51. Ventura

And Ventura is also a narcissistic A hole who is totally preoccupied in his self promotion!

[buddhamama]

54. i wasn't serious

i was following the same logic that some are using with a Kerry/McCain ticket.

my follow up post should have made it obvious that it was in jest.

[Crunchy Frog]

26. I would give no more support to the Kerry

candidacy or the Dem party beyond individual congressional candidates. I would grit my teeth and vote for the ticket in November and then I would promptly leave the Democratic party, possibly joining the Greens.

By the way, I'm not exactly a Nader hating Dem loyalist, considering that I voted for Nader in 2000. At this point, my opinion of Nader has gone down dramatically, and I probably could describe my feelings for him as hatred. I will never vote for him again. I have vowed to vote Democratic this election, but may very well move to a third party in the future.

I guess I'm a little more complicated than your simplistic dichotomy.

[ulysses]

36. as most of us likely are.

I guess I'm a little more complicated than your simplistic dichotomy.

I'd be willing to bet that over half of DUers who've speculated on such things think I'm voting Nader this year, and I'm not - in fact, I'm largely in the same boat you are. Still, it's difficult to inject any kind of shade or nuance into these things sometimes without being even more wordy than I am normally. :)

[Padraig18]

30. Other: engage in projectile vomiting. n/t

[lewiston]

31. What would we be then... Demo-cans

Stop the madness.

[John_H]

33. Only a liar-loving fool would vote for Nader over Kerry

Why? Because when all the Nader-lovers' self-absorbed, wah-wah-my-wittle-conscience-hurts rhetoric is stripped away, A Kerry-McCain administration would be a vast improvement over 4 more years of Bush-Cheney and, like it or not, a vote for Fidelity Ralph enables Chimp (thereby helping ruin your country) by denying a vote from the only candidate that can beat him.

[sangh0]

34. How sad

You're reduced to relying on speculation in order to make a point. I'm heart-broken over the depths you'll willingly sink to.

[ulysses]

35. poor thing.

:)

Not making a point, I'm actually curious.

[sangha]

40. Curious?

About what?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x493950

[ulysses]

41. uhh...about what the poll is about.

Can't get anything past you, nope. :D

[sangha]

42. I see.

I would have thought you'd be clear about what I thought of your poll. I did not realize I could get something past you

[ulysses]

43. huh?

I would have thought you'd be clear about what I thought of your poll.

Did you mistype or am I responsible now for clarifying what you think about things?

[sangha]

44. Only when I tell you what I think about things

Actually, I did leave a thought out. I was wondering why you went with McCain, and not Hitler?

[ulysses]

45. there aren't any current Hitler rumors,

as there are concerning McCain. Should any surface, though, I'll let you know.

[sangha]

46. Au contraire

There have been rumors that some would vote for anyone with D after their name, and Hitler's name has come up.

[Guaranteed]

50. That's not speculation. It's a hypothetical question.

There's a big difference.

[sangh0]

56. I say it's both, given McCain's endorsement of Bush*

.

[mzmolly]

38. Stay home.

I am sorry to say...

[VOX]

39. Kerry-McCain is not *, and would probably beat * soundly -- so, yes...

I'd vote for Kerry-McCain.

Would I like doing it? No, it wouldn't feel that good to this peace-loving leftist.

But would I feel relieved if it meant the displacement of the bible-thumping, troop-deploying, big-business feeding, death-mongering BushCo machine?

Hell, yes -- it would be a start!

:toast:

[Dr Fate]

48. I dont hate Nader, and I dont support a McCain VP...

...but I would rather Nader not run.

"IF"(and that's a big, fantasy, "if") Kerry picked McCain as VP, it would be too desperate, I would have to do some serious thinking about that...

[saracat]

52. Really?

When the alternative is Bush? You'd have to do some serious thinking? What about? I loathe McCain but I'd vote for him as VP in a heartbeat before I'd do anything to give the WH to the chimp again.

[Dr Fate]

53. McCain has said it aint gonna happen.

So I guess wont have to do any thinking about that particular point at all.

There will be no GOP VP.

As far as your suggestion that I not seriously think about political implications- :)what-ev-vahhh...!!:) Its a hypothetical anyway...

[saracat]

49. Anyone

Anyone is better than Bush and almost anyone is better than Nader. Mc Cain makes me sick because he is a phoney but at least he is a real Republican not someone claiming to be an independent or third party and being funded by the Repugs!