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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:50 PM
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Could the power of the presidency prevented the Clintons from being convicted in Whitewater?
Just started looking into it again.


Seems President Clintons Lawyers "impeded" the investigation with "unmeritorious litigation" and 14 of the Clintons friends and business partners were convicted on 40+ crimes


Kenneth Starr's successor as Independent Counsel, Robert Ray, released a report in September 2000 that stated "This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct."<17> Ray nonetheless criticized the White House in a statement regarding the release of the report, saying delays in the production of evidence and "unmeritorious litigation" by the president's lawyers severely impeded the investigation's progress. Ray's report effectively ended the Whitewater investigation, with a total cost to American taxpayers of nearly $60 million.<4>

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Ultimately the Clintons were never charged, but 14 other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including a sitting Governor who was removed from office.<33>

Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax fraud)
William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith (Whitewater): former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud, contempt of court) Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud) Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews (Whitewater): Whitewater defendant (bribery)
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:56 PM
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1. sorry didnt provide a link or a reason....
if Hillary is gonna go dirty then maybe we oughta remind her she shouldn't really talk much about real estate deals..

this is from wikipedia...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:57 PM
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2. The Clintons were the victims of Whitewater. the power of the presidency prevented the Bush cabal
from being brought to justice just as Bill's pardon of the Bush1 crew allowed the convicts to remain in our government. That is the question to ask. Will our candidate pledge not to pardon any of the criminals now in control of our government?
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 03:58 PM
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3. If they were victims why did everyone around them get convicted?
and why did president clintons lawyers "impede" the investigation?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:01 PM
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4. You are stirring this pot. I do not support the DLC or the Clintons. This is just a dead issue.
Find a real reason to oppose them. You know like policies. Not Republican taking points.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:09 PM
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5. if hillary is gonna talk about real estate deals then this is gonna be drudged up big time
heck I didnt even know this part...

Ray's final report on the Whitewater investigation concluded that former President Clinton's mid-1980s Arkansas land venture benefited from criminal activity and that the president and first lady gave factually inaccurate testimony, but there was not enough evidence to prove they had engaged in wrongdoing.

On the Whitewater matter, prosecutors concluded that although both Clintons had made “factually inaccurate” statements to federal investigators, the available evidence failed to prove that either of them had committed perjury or obstructed justice.

http://www.history.com/encyclopedia.do?vendorId=FWNE.fw..wh044350.a
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 06:06 PM
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6. This wingnut propaganda has been posted here twice already and is deserving of an alert!
These are right wing lies. The person posting them has to be a rightwing Republican, because no real Democrat would permit himself to be swept away in such obvious sewage.

This kind of post is an attempt to divide and destroy the Democratic Party. Not only is the entire post BS (the FACT is, nobody in American history has ever been convicted of a SINGLE charge directly connected to either Clinton!)

This whole post is long-disproven bullshit -- the product of wingnut think-tanks and rampaging Freepers.

Anybody who would post this kind of lying, misleading, character-assassinating, slanderous crap is only slightly less loathsome than the foul wingnut minds that created it in the first place.

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