tritsofme
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:20 PM
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The Machiavellian Thing For the Clinton Camp to do is Push For No New FL MI Primary/Caucus |
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Obviously you don't want a caucus as those seem to favor Senator Obama.
A new primary could lead to diminished victories, or even a loss in MI. It also gives Obama hundreds of thousands more popular votes.
From a purely "realpolitik" standpoint, you want the status quo.
Push the overall popular vote angle going into the convention, including Florida, and leave Michigan out of it.
Not necessarily how I think it should be done, but definitely the most favorable scenario for Clinton.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:22 PM
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1. No way they can say that in public. |
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:56 PM
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8. Obviously not something you say in public. |
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But it has to be what they are thinking behind closed doors.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:23 PM
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2. General Clark supporter here |
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I have no dog in the Clinton Obama race but I don't understand the value of a caucus compared to a popular vote. And I think all primary elections should be closed. Dems voting for Dems, republicans voting for republicans. I can't believe the situation in Texas with both Primary and caucus with possible different results. Thats lunacy.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:32 PM
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3. A new primary would cost over $10 million -- way too much |
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:41 PM
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4. Had we done it your way, Hillary would be waaaay ahead now. |
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Obama's victories are tied to caucuses (where youth and organization dominate) and to crossover votes. Although many people are upset that Repugs crossed over for Hillary in TX and OH, that same thing has been happening all along, with Obama being the beneficiary.
If only registered Democrats could vote -- and only in secret-ballot primaries -- Hillary would have an insurmountable lead by now, because she consistently wins among registered (real) Democrats in primary (real) elections.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:44 PM
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I'm not for or against either candidate (and I vote next week.) I just find a great deal of value in fairness and a level playing field.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:47 PM
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is to win over Independents and perhaps very moderate Republicans - and you need to for success in the GE - then it is much better to get them vested in your campaign early in the process - i.e. the primaries.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:47 PM
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The most equitable disposition of this matter is to recreate the conditions that previously occurred as much as humanly possible... That means primaries in both states...
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Thu Mar-06-08 05:04 PM
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and they favor Obama.
Hence, if the Obama folks had their way, it would be redone with a caucus.
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Thu Mar-06-08 05:14 PM
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When Floyd Mayweather and Oscar DeLahoya have their re-match which DeLahoya lost they won't be fighting bare fisted which would favor him...
I thought Democrats wanted to make it easier to vote...If it was up to the Democratic party you could show up at the polls, just prove you are of legal age and vote that day...
Caucuses create all kinds of hurdles... They are usually a couple of an hour event on a specified day...It militates against the elderly, the physically challenged, and the working class from voting...
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