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ScottS Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:36 PM
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** Wait till you see what WYOMING Does!! **
Not that most of you care about the Dems in the "Red States", since we apparently don't count, and don't matter, but I think a few people may be a little surprised at what happens in 2 days, and what the turnout ends up being.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:37 PM
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1. and what do you think will happen?
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:40 PM
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12. Obama basically predicted victory there and in MS on his plane interview ...
he said he thought he could pickup more delegates in WY and MS than Hillary did on March 4. I'm sure he wouldn't make that statement without polling support.
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ScottS Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:45 PM
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19. I wont say who I think it's leaning toward, BUT!!
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 04:48 PM by ScottS
I will say, I've been hitting the streets volunteering for one of the candidates, and the excitement over this dem. nomination is very high for what is otherwise, "historically", a very VERY republican state.

We've had people donating thousands of dollars to rent out bigger buildings in anticipation of up to 5 times as many people turning out to caucus this Saturday, than in the past.

It's all very exciting :)

I just hope the turnout matches the enthusiasm and excitement. Guess we'll see on Saturday!
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:48 PM
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22. oh come on just say it
you can't make a topic like this with only 20 posts and not mention the most important part :)

(its Obama, right?)
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ScottS Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:54 PM
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32. Oh alright......
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 04:55 PM by ScottS
Sorry, I didn't mean to create any sort of false suspense, I just didn't want this thread to seem like some sort of insult to either candidate, cause there's enough back and forth on this forum.

If you must know who I think will win, and who I'm volunteering for, find out which candidate it is that I get to meet tomorrow night in Laramie, Wyoming. Since only one of them is showing up, that shouldn't be too hard :)
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:55 PM
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34. yeah! I am so happy!
thank you!
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:59 PM
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37. Obama!! :)
hope your state goes big for him. at least his campaign cares about the smaller states. every delegate counts.

I'm surprised Hillary isn't going (I knew Obama was).
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:01 PM
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38. She sent Bill. She is concentrating on the state that "matters", Pennsylvania
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:03 PM
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42. both she and bill are in Missippi.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:03 PM
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44. that is a sorry excuse...
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 05:04 PM by adoraz
sending yourself is ten times better than your spouse. I know the people of Wyoming will be much more appreciative of Obama coming.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:04 PM
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45. She sent Chelsea to Nebraska.
That worked out well for her. /sarcasm

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:12 PM
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52. they are all going to Wyoming
Only in the last few weeks have the campaigns stepped up their presence in the state, opening offices and calling voters and sending mailers. The first visits come Thursday, when former President Clinton makes three appearances. Obama and Hillary Clinton follow, each scheduling two events on Friday.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYlWnl8aJSvGNRW8l3IYcw-qHt2gD8V81KD02
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:03 PM
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43. Hope you enjoy it and...
welcome to DU! :hi:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:21 PM
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57. This is great news! Every state counts, and it is just electrifying to hear about the numbers
of people participating in this ground-breaking election process.

Please keep us posted, and welcome to DU!!
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:49 PM
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23. Chicken.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:51 PM
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29. Do tell us, Sir.
And welcome to DU!
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blocker Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:37 PM
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2. please go and vote!
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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3. K&R
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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4. well I care. Do you have a feel for which way the states leaning?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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5. That Hillary might not win?
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 04:56 PM by FrenchieCat

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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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6. OK, I'll bite. What's the surprise? n/t
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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7. and.....????
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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One of the campaigns cares a lot about red-state Dems
The other one is only starting to care now, because every delegate counts.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:38 PM
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8. Hello Scott welcome to DU
Wyoming counts. I live in Mississippi and we count too!
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:42 PM
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16. Yes you do! n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:39 PM
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9. I care! Please blow it out for Obama!!
Every state counts. :grouphug:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:39 PM
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10. I won't be surprised.
Dem turnout in all the primaries and caucuses so far has been phenomenal.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:40 PM
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11. Here's a hint
Check out what happened in Idaho
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:45 PM
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18. But there are no Democrats in Idaho, are there?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:49 PM
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24. If that is the case this is going to be a GREAT day to watch te Caucus!!
GOBAMA!!!!
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:40 PM
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13. No, you count.
Every state counts. We've been writing off whole segments of the country for too long. We have to start paying attention to these states if we ever expect to be a viable national party again. Being the party of ten states is not a strategy.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:41 PM
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14. I can't wait to see what Wyoming does,
I care very deeply. What will they do?:hi:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:42 PM
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15. Posted my prediction earlier today ->
Bill is actually in Wyoming today to campaign

This is Hillary flyover country, Bill. Enjoy a snowcoach ride in Yellowstone, and call it good at that!

Prediction for Saturday caucus: Obama- 13 delegates, Clinton- 5. Another +8 net for Obama.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:45 PM
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20. Might cancel any Clinton gains in PA. eom
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:53 PM
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67. That is assuming she actually wins PA
That isn't a given.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:58 PM
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68. Yep. After I posted that I thought the same thing. Should have edited it. eom
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:50 PM
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27. According to CNN, Wyoming only has 12 delegates?
I assume you are counting Super delegates?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:57 PM
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35. I think you're correct
I was trying to interpret the info from this page, but it does look like only 12 'pledged' delegates are at stake. So I'll call it at 9 for Obama, 3 for Clinton, with a net of +6 for Obama.
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:42 PM
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17. The Survey USA poll has Wyoming: C -33, O -19 against McCain
So it looks like Obama is 14 points better than her there, plus you add in the caucus factor which favors him.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:46 PM
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21. K&R Go Wyoming!
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:49 PM
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25. This is the UP side of the long primary season.
It is exciting that the "red" states are playing a role, and I think it could go a long way toward changing the dialog in the middle of the country, which will be a welcome change.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:49 PM
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26. Obama is using the 50-state strategy.
Every state matters to him...and that one will be his, as well, I hope. :hi:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:58 PM
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36. He didn't come here.
NOBODY comes here.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:01 PM
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39. lol alaska.
but at least he had a ground game in Alaska getting out the vote. his campaign sure cared.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:02 PM
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40. If you would just turn the heating on...
seriously, I sympathise, but with less than a million voters in the whole state, I can sort of understand.

But, I promise that if I ever run for President I'll come to Alaska.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:08 PM
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49. Thank you, and I will be waiting for that.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 05:08 PM by Blue_In_AK
Nobody even ran any campaign ads up here except for Ron Paul. :rofl: Oh, and I think maybe I saw one or two from the Mittster, but no Dems. In 2004 we didn't get any presidential campaign ads either (except on cable) -- none from Kerry, none from Bush. In a way, it's kind of nice not to have to watch all that stuff, but we do feel a little left out sometimes.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:02 PM
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41. Well, Alaska IS kinda far away.
Was Obama able to make it to Hawaii?
I'm sorry you didn't get a visit from him, though. :(
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:16 PM
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56. nixon went there, and it got him elected!
... 8 years later.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:23 PM
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58. ...
:hug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:37 PM
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61. Thank you, Sister...
I'll take a hug any way I can get one. :) Don't you feel sorry for us missing out on all the hoopla?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:44 PM
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64. Yes, I do.
But if it makes you feel better, they were here and I didn't get to see them. I did vote, but that's all. Oh, and lots of junk mail and robocalls. :crazy:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:42 PM
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63. But he did send paid staff
;)
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:07 PM
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48. Yep, delegates are important not firewalls.
I hope at the end of this mess it will be delegates that win championships!
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:09 PM
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51. It will be.
And Obama will be the winner.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:13 PM
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53. His 50-state strategy is fine. I'm less pleased with his two-party strategy. n/t
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:15 PM
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55. I wonder if Harold Ford would keep the 50 state strategy.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 05:15 PM by cottonseed
Because I've got a feeling that if Hillary somehow pulls this out they'll send Dean packing. If I was one of these newly elected Dems I'd be very worried about this.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:51 PM
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28. What I find really curious
is how easily the Clinton camp has been blowing off Obama's wins in red states. I think Wyoming, Idaho, Kansas, etc. DO count. We already know we're going to win CA, NY, MA, etc. in November. But only one candidate has shown that he has what it takes to POSSIBLY bring in normally red states as well.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:53 PM
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31. I don't know why they keep writing that off.
Yes, it's unlikely that we'll carry a lot of these red states, but big blue states strategy ISN'T WORKING. And when something isn't working, smart people try something else.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:52 PM
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30. I love that the red state Democrats are getting so involved!
I think that some party officials out there need a shot in the arm, no matter who they vote for.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:54 PM
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33. WE CARE!!
I'm all the way 50-state strategy :)

Welcome to DU :hi:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:04 PM
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46. Welcome to the DU. This Obama supporter says that Wyoming & Mississippi are "signicant"!
Very significant in spite of what the Clintons say.

All states matter. Wyoming matters. Mississippi matters.

Go Wyoming!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:04 PM
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47. K&R
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:08 PM
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50. Please report back on primary day...
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 05:09 PM by npincus
and tell us what's happening on the ground. :)
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:14 PM
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54. I'm certainly not writing-off "The equality state".
:hi:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:34 PM
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59. Welcome to DU!
:patriot:

-Laelth
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:36 PM
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60. All my best to my friends in the jade capital of North America
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:39 PM
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62. Good luck!!
From one person in a much-maligned red state to another, I signed up to help out WY after the Texas elections, but I didn't realize you guys were up this Saturday. :) Have fun & enjoy the turn out!

dg
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:47 PM
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65. Welcome to DU!!!
Please keep us informed! Sounds exciting! :hi:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 05:49 PM
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66. Wyoming was the first state to grant women the vote
It would be sweet to see them vote for a woman now. I'm not counting on it though. However, if I were Hillary, I would run ads pointing that interesting fact of Wyoming's history.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:01 PM
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69. Wyoming was the first state in the Union to have a female Governor, in 1925! Nellie Tayloe Ross.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 07:02 PM by Major Hogwash
It made national headlines back in the day!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:07 PM
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70. Good for them! Well, maybe they'll surprise us
and be true to their roots this weekend.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:19 PM
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71. From one red state Dem to another...
It' feels good doesn't it? Bask in the glory of mobilizing your local Dems. Just don't forget to get phone numbers and email contacts so you can keep in touch.

Let this be just a beginning of your new found Democratic presence. :hi:
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:23 PM
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72. From up in the Blue Corner...
Teton County, Wyoming went Dem in 2004. Statewide we came within 1,000 votes statewide of sending a Dem to the House in the mid-terms, nearly unseating 7 term incumbent Cheney-clone Barbara Cubin. In some states folks might not recognize some Wyoming Democrats, but in contrast to Wyoming Republicans it's pretty easy to tell the difference. That's especially true in the case of our Democratic governor, but he IS a Democrat. So, we've got a Democratic governor, we may be able to get a Democratic Representative; I would be <b>delighted</b> to get the state to go for a Democrat in the presidential election. I personally feel that we'd have a better chance to do that with Obama, so that's where I'm going.

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