Clinton's Wins Halt Move of Superdelegates to Obama

[Tarc]

Oh my. Well, I've never been the type to say "I told you so", but...

Ahh, fuck that, who are we kidding?

I TOLD YOU SO.

March 6 (Bloomberg) -- Hillary Clinton scored more than just three presidential primary victories this week. She also helped freeze a movement of top Democrats set to call on her to concede to rival Barack Obama.
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A group of uncommitted ``superdelegates'' were ready to make a show of support for Obama by trying to pressure Clinton to give up, said Tim Roemer, a former congressman who's rounding up backers for Obama. Now, after her wins in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island, many will still back Obama without calling on Clinton to quit, he said.

Obama, an Illinois senator, aimed to knock Clinton out of the race by capitalizing on an 11-contest winning streak to claim the mantle of undisputed front-runner. The 795 superdelegates -- party officials and lawmakers who aren't bound by primary results -- are critical as neither candidate is positioned to gain enough delegates through elections to win the nomination.

``Instead of being a slam dunk for Obama, it's a horse race again,'' said South Carolina Representative John Spratt. Spratt said he's undecided after Clinton's success this week, even though Obama is his ``presumptive choice'' because his constituents backed him in the state's Jan. 26 primary.

Neither campaign is letting up. Yesterday, Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams and adviser Harold Ickes waited outside the Senate chamber to huddle with Charles Schumer, a Clinton supporter who represents New York with her in the U.S. Senate. Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, is among those making calls to superdelegates.

- http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/ascl6e69rqry

[book_worm]

1. Oh well, as far as I know Obama still picked up four super delegates yesterday and today

He will have two more victories this week and we will see what happens.

[MadBadger]

2. I guess you've missed the drip drip drip so far.

I think he has five or six in two days.

[flor de jasmim]

6. Is there a site which is truly up-to-date on the SD's? (n/t)

[JuniperLea]

11. Nope...

Not even regular delegates as far as I can see. Every site I find has a different count.

[Debi]

15. I like this one

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

at the bottom it shows a daily accounting of who went where.

[flor de jasmim]

19. Cool! Thanks (something new to track!!)

[Debi]

24. Careful - you'll get obsessed

:yoiks: not that I'd know anything about that....

[Debi]

25. aacck dupe

[catgirl]

3. Not.

[julialnyc]

4. SHE DIDN'T EVEN WIN TEXAS!!

Why isn't the media saying this?

[rodeodance]

32. You missed the headlines abross the USA yesterday!! Clinton WON, 3:1.

[JackORoses]

36. old headlines fade away... Obama won Texas RodeoClown, the Superdelegates know this

even if you are so stupid as to vainly believe it.

[julialnyc]

43. Yeah, but there could be new headlines at the end of the month

[tekisui]

5. Nine to Obama since Tuesday.

1 to Hillary since 2/29.

[OzarkDem]

7. These votes will switch back and forth

according to which candidate is winning at any given time. Its the process, its how things work.

[Levgreee]

10. And Obama's been in the lead, winning, over the course of the last 16 primaries now

[anigbrowl]

13. Yeah, that's why 0 superdelegates have switched from Obama to Clinton

But keep on telling us that.

[jenmito]

14. Really? Where's the flow of SDs to Hillary since her "huge" victory Tuesday?

[TheWraith]

17. Um, no. Clinton hasn't had a new superdelegate in nearly a month. Obama's had 39.

Nor has she had even one come out since Tuesday. He's had something like nine in 48 hours. This isn't a 50/50 thing. He's cleaning up.

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[msallied]

26. Where is the influx of Hillary's SDs following her "Trifecta"?

This headline is misleading or a downright lie. Period. If Obama has gained 9 SDs in the 48 hours since the primary, then it's pretty clear that the Hill camp is taking the Huckabee approach of majoring in miracles.

[TheWraith]

27. Ah, personal attacks and threats, staple of the Clinton campaign.

By the way, I don't know if you've noticed, but you don't have the authority to tell the moderators to do anything.

If superdelegates are so fluid as you describe, it seems conspicuous that something nine have come out for Obama since the "big victory" (which really means "managing to not lose ALL of her massive lead") on Tuesday, and none for Clinton. And yet, when that's pointed out, suddenly superdelegates become a super-tanker that need a week to decide whether they're making a turn.

Of course, by that time Obama will have drubbed her in Wyoming and MS, so you'll have a new excuse.

[Debi]

28. So we should ignore the nine Super Delegates Obama has gotten

Tuesday, Wednesday and today. Because things take time? At three a day he'll be in pretty go shape come April 22.

Nice insult btw.

[OzarkDem]

30. You're crackin' me up

[Debi]

31. I know, right?!

It's so funny having people continually prove you wrong. :rofl:

[OzarkDem]

37. I love watching people make fools of themselves

especially those who are experiencing a presidential election for the first time.

:hi:

[Debi]

41. Yep, that's me!

A person who has NEVER been politically involved and has no idea what happens in presidential politics!

Wow, you ARE perceptive :crazy:

(How many mirrors do you own? :thumbsup:)

[tekisui]

35. But they have not done that. 8 have switched from HIllary to Obama.

One to Hillary from Obama. And, Obama has gained 6 since Tuesday.

[thevoiceofreason]

8. Told us what?

That the MSM is wrong --- again???

[tabatha]

9. Howard Dean just said in a video I watched that

the superdelegates should reflect who their constituents voted for - and because of that, the SD issue was fair.

The above report is not good. There should be no question as to whom a SD supports - it should be the person the voters support.

For Schumer, Bill Clinton to undercut that - well it is the same as Bush in 2000. Undemocratic.

[msallied]

22. Exactly

Having the will of the people wrested away by a country-club inner-circle of people is EXACTLY what happened in 2000, and the Dems were righteously angry about that for eight years. If they will that sort of an outcome within their own party, they will have revealed themselves as nothing but a bunch of hypocrites.

[Debi]

12. Hmmm - then I wonder WHY six Super Delegates have gone to Obama

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

In the last two days :think:

Every day this week he has had gains in the Super Delegate count. Wonder how long before that # equals 50?

[thevoiceofreason]

16. And yesterday Barack took one of Hillary's Cal. delegates!

The recount has shifted the numbers in the at-large apportionment

[Bigleaf]

18. Obama has picked up 14 Supers in the last week, Hillary zero.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4932459

[msallied]

20. The MSM is working overtime for the Clinton echo chamber

Check all of the headlines. They are either spinning distortions or outright lies, none of them reporting on reality.

Oh well, I guess I can just continue to get "real" news from Jon Stewart.

[C_U_L8R]

23. She can't hold Obama back for very long..

BAM !!! ..... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4932662

[seabeyond]

29. she only won two. obama won two. tie. n/t

[rodeodance]

33. You missed the Headlines yesterday-3:1 Clinton WON.--

[seabeyond]

34. just cause it says.... i believe obama puled more deligates. that gives win to obama

are you sure headlines are correct?

[rodeodance]

38. ha ha--3:1 is the scare for Tuesday.

[JackORoses]

39. your right. is was the 'scare'. The score was 'Obama won Texas!'

ahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[Tarc]

42. Sorry Jacko, but your empty suit didn't win Texas

No half-assed, undemocratic caucus changes the fact that more Texans voted for Hillary Clinton on Tuesday.

[Barack_America]

40. Lol. Tell that to the FIVE superdelegates that endorsed Obama today!

-Teresa Benitez-Thompson (NV)
-Nick Rahall (WV)
-Connie Thurman (IN)
-Mary Long (GA)
-Ian Carelton (VT)

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