Kick Hillary Out of the Party

[LBJDemocrat]

Hillary Clinton has said that McCain "certainly" has the credentials to be commander-in-chief, that she herself "believes" that she does, but that Barack Obama has not proven that he has such credentials.

It's a sad state of affairs when one Democrat praises the Republican nominee over her fellow Democrat. What this looks like to me is this: Hillary doesn't want a Democrat to win unless it's her. She didn't want John Kerry to win in 2004. She won't want Obama to win in 2008. She wants Republicans to keep winning until the stars align for her presidency. It remains to be seen what lows this despicable politician will stoop to in order to make sure this happens.

[flor de jasmim]

1. I second the motion.

[FiveGoodMen]

39. Third!

[surfin]

48. Send her back to the senate and see if she can accomplish something

Give her health care and say now get it passed and then come back and we will listen to you. Accomplish something on your own without Bill.

[FiveGoodMen]

53. Considering her health care approach, I don't want her to do that either.

"People without health care? No problem: take their money and give it to the insurance companies!"

Fuck that.

[LBJDemocrat]

60. LOL! I couldn't have said it better. nt

[hueyshort]

66. Then all Sock Puppets are in agreement!

[Yes We Did]

76. Sorry your candidate is a traitor. You should come over to our side.

We still believe in democracy.

[ButterflyBlood]

87. Fourthed!

nt

[saracat]

2. This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on GD.

I will say it again. Everyone knows that John McCain is a war hero.Everyone knows that he has experience.Everyone knows he is 72 years old.Hillary acknowledging this does nothing.Using your argument we should kick Obama out for praising Republicans and wanting to"reach across the aisle" as he so fervently advocates.John McCain's experience will be an issue, and guess what, the GOP already "knew" about it.

[LBJDemocrat]

4. Her quote can be used in a GOP attack ad

Secondly, the "threshold" for who is capable of being commander-in-chief is subjective. The argument can be made (and is made) that McCain is not trustworthy on the issue of national security since he is responsible for the Iraq blunder. Should Obama win the nomination, Hillary will be expected to agree with the Democratic Party platform, which will imply this.

[saracat]

12. How do you know what the platform will imply? The Platform will not imply anything of the sort.

Have you even read it?

[anigbrowl]

21. Oh, the Dem. party platform is going to imply McCain IS trustworthy?

Do you even think before posting?

[saracat]

24. It isn't going to say anything.That is the point! Sheesh.

[Usrename]

86. So she favors McCain for president over Obama, so what?

What's the big deal?

:think:

Oh, right, oops!

[Why Syzygy]

30. It already is .. McCain's staff is boasting about.

You better believe they will use it. (I can't see the poster who is arguing with you :D )

I'm glad it is turning out this way so everyone is exposed to her dirty tricks. They didn't start with her current campaign, that's for sure.

[samdogmom]

16. These are her words! Spin all you want but it doesn't change things!

[Carolina]

25. what those of you who defend her words don't grasp

is that she's so stupid she's hurting her own chnaces should she, by hook or CROOK, get the nomination. While she's trying to hurt Obama, she's giving McCain ammo against her because he will take her own words about experience and readiness to CiC and point out that not only does he have more but also that his is bona fide and really His. NOT derived from being someone's spouse.

A powerful campaign tool: her image, her voice, her words for McCain!

Her kitchen sink crap will boomerang.

[Gore1FL]

3. Thats a bit to far

she already lost and hope of the nomination.

[LBJDemocrat]

8. Not enough nt

[DJ13]

5. I agree

Aid and comfort to the enemy shouldnt be tolerated.

[marylanddem]

6. I wish Howard Dean would do something about this.

This just proves that her previous "endorsement" of McCain was calculated & this will continue. It's traitorous & reprehensible.

[QC]

33. First the show trial, then the purge!

[comradebillyboy]

43. Comrade Stalin would be proud of GD-P.......nt

[spoony]

90. Maybe he can disenfranchise all voters this time.

[Life Long Dem]

7. We need to tear Hillary up before she tears up the dem nominee.

In 7 weeks Hillary is going to tear up Obama unless we do so first.

[democrattotheend]

9. I think she should be stripped of her superdelegate status

for the same reasons Lieberman was.

[americanstranger]

10. She may accomplish that all on her own.

I can envision the uncommitted superdelegates looking at these pro-McCain comments and thinking 'What the fuck??'

She's wearing out her welcome. I can personally say that she burnt her last bridge today, as far as I'm concerned.

- as

[MadHound]

11. Hillary is willing to do and say anything that will further her own personal agenda

She sees the advantage to sucking up to McCain in order for her and him to double team Obama. We've already seen that she is willing to go negative in a heartbeat, spreading lies and bullshit. Is this really what we want in our nominee? I don't think so.

[RememberWellstone]

13. Obama must leave

He's weak and sends his lemmings out to whine when he starts losing. How sad.

[Carolina]

29. You should change your screen name

Wellstone is spinning in his grave at the likes of HRC with her IWR vote and her low road campaign

[RememberWellstone]

47. Paul loved the Clintons

Or at least really liked them warmly.

[marylanddem]

14. Kicked & recommended - she's a f**king traitor to the party

[Genevieve]

36. I wrote an OP where I called her the same thing -- a

traitor --
The Mods locked th thread, said I can't call anyone in the Dem party that word.

Well, I still 100% agree with you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Shuuld Obama Be Kicked Out Of The Party For Saying He Wants To Put Pugs In His Cabinet?

Of course not...

That's silly...

It's as silly as denying a man who was in government before electricity was invented is experinced...

[americanstranger]

19. Not even in the same neighborhood.

Repeatedly touting the opposition nominee in order to tear down your primary opponent is beyond the pale.

Shows me that it's not about the Democratic party as far as Hillary is concerned, it's about her.

Her priorities, to put it bluntly, are all fucked up. She should be made aware of this.

- as

[anigbrowl]

17. Thirded. Hillary Clinton is basically trolling

She keeps telling us what a strong candidate the GOP has in McCain. why don't I hear her attacking his Iraq policy, or trashing him on economics or healthcare? She's repeated this same rhetorical trick about 5 times now, it's no slip of the tongue.

Karl Rove must laughing in delight.

[Name removed]

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[JackORoses]

20. down with Benedict Clinton!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. I Thought You Were Better Than That

Shame on me...

[JackORoses]

41. What else would you call her repeated claim that McCain is more prepared to be President than Obama?

It is disgraceful and, in fact, traitorous to to her Party.

You know Obama is the Nominee, what do you call her statements regarding McCain?

I have lost all respect for her in this campaign. She is no longer a Democrat in my book.

[marylanddem]

37. Looks like she's reporting in to McCain...

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[GumboYaYa]

23. The Clintons don't care about the party...only themselves.

[City Lights]

27. She needs to be shunned. eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Shunned

I would take a cap behind the ear for her...

[smiley_glad_hands]

28. She did cross a line. eom

[rug]

32. Is your name a joke?

[LBJDemocrat]

35. No. Why?

I admire what LBJ did for labor, black Americans, and the poor.

[rug]

38. LBJ was driven out of the presidency by his party's primary voters.

[LBJDemocrat]

50. Yes. Hahaha. There is a certain irony to that. nt

[BeyondGeography]

34. And she intends to unify us at some point if she were the nominee?

How fucking hopeless can you get?

[sloppyjoe25s]

40. She has a lust for power

just like Bill... it's not so surprising what she is doing now.

I'm more surprised she did not get to this level earlier.

[arundhatiroyfan]

42. Her comments were out of line.

She should give up the race, in my opinion. I don't know about kicking her out of the party.

[LaurenG]

44. She is wrong to say that imo, but this is just silly

:eyes:

[Diane R]

45. I hope, after this is all over, that she is shunned and ends up with no stature in the party.

[Alamom]

46. Obama has given the repukes THE talking point for decades & they won't forget it.

It will be used over & over for years to come.


One of the frontrunners for the presidency of the Democratic Party said this and it was heard & seen around the world.


Reagan tapped into what the people wanted.


"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what is different is the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. They felt like with all the excesses of the 60s and the 70s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think he tapped into what people were already feeling. Which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing." - Obama


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/16/obama-compares-himself-to_n_81835.html

Word for word on the tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYD7iZG9w


In trying to build himself up or some kind of comparison to Ronald Reagan regarding change and moving away from the 60's & 70's, he also declared that *Bill Clinton, could not or did not do what Ronald Reagan did.

(*our only 2 term DEM president since FDR, about 60 years)

I've seen this explained away many times as not being what it looks like it is or people saying they didn't see any comparisons being made. It's not what "we" think. It's what the Repukes make of it and it's enough to damn democratic candidates for years in favor of a Reagan-like Replacement. I can already hear it, a Democratic presidential hopeful said it as he was dissing one of our best, Reagan must have been the greatest president ever. Just what we need again to get this country on track.
Watch for it. The Dem nominee will get hit with it from now on.

This statement during this presidential campaign by Obama towers over anything & everything HRC has said.

[LaurenG]

49. I think it's really strange how we all hear the very same things, yet

with some of us it's a negative thing and with others it's nothing. Interesting, and I don't quite know what to make of it yet.

It's meaningless to me and yet it's supposedly an arsenal for some. :shrug:

[SIMPLYB1980]

51. Yep.

[flor de jasmim]

82. Your reasoning is WRONG (sorry, but it is)

Obama did not say that Reagan was a good president--only that he motivated a generation into thinking in a different fashion. Did Bill get people thinking in a wholly different way? NO. This is not a question of who had better policies, who did more, who moved the country in a better direction--it is ONLY about how Reagan was able to shift the country's focus. (I was and remain avidly anti-Reagan, BTW).

This statement of Obama's reflects, more than anything, his role as UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR, not politician. This is an objective analysis or "reading" of the times, not an endorsement.

[NM Independent]

99. I whole heartedly disagree...

...Obama is a man that can look at another person, not as a democrat or republican, but as a person.

This is the whole point behind trying to change things in Washington. For too long it's been fight fight fight. For too long it's been everybody at each others throats. Almost never do you hear anything about compromise, and when you do the people involved are ridiculed as traitors to their parties and ideals.

Well, you can't get your way all the time. Compromise is the only way to progress when ~50% disagree with each other on EVERYTHING. Regardless of what you might think, there are people who aren't in the left or right wing, but somewhere in the middle...like me.

If you can't look at another man, and see some of the good that they did, or at least find some way to complement them whether you agree with their stand or not, then NOTHING CAN EVER GET ACCOMPLISHED AND CHANGE CAN'T HAPPEN.

Like it or not, Obama is right. Reagan did bring his party, and a lot of America together based on tapping into general feelings of the public that already existed. What he did during his presidency is regardless when considering this.

The point he was making is that there is a general feeling in the public. He realizes that, and has quite obviously tapped into it.

Just because you don't like what he said, doesn't mean it isn't true.

Sorry, but giving the opposition ammunition in the most crucial election ever. THAT is just downright unforgivable.

[New Dawn]

52. I agree. n/t

[faithfulcitizen]

54. She's repeated making these statements, I've only heard Kerry denounce them so far.

[Eric J in MN]

55. re "She didn't want John Kerry to win in 2004."

What are you basing that on?

[LBJDemocrat]

56. Common sense. nt

[grassfed]

57. Hillary's venomous effect on DU and the Democratic Party

at a time that could mark the end of 8 years of hatred, wars, torture, killing and despair is but a taste of a Clinton presidency. Which of course won't happen because McCain will win because I and millions of others can not in good conscience vote for a supporter of the war who voted against land mine and cluster bomb bans and opened the door to a war with Iran.

[bigtree]

58. maybe you should leave

[Blarch]

59. fuck her.

[NoBorders]

61. I think I'm seriously done with Clinton

If she feels it's either her or no Dem, if that's they way she wants it, so be it. I doubt I will vote for her.

[bbgrunt]

62. She sounds like a rabid repuke more everyday.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

63. How about the Obama spokesperson who said neither Hillary or Barak had the expeience.

At least Hillary said ONE Democrat had the experience. Truthfully - I think it WAS a mistake when Hillary said that.

[merkins]

64. K&R

[redstate_democrat]

65. k&r

Someone needs to stop her from destroying the party. She has lost it.

[Name removed]

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[joeprogressive]

68. I have gone from not wanting HRC because she was unelectable to

hating her as much as Lieberman. She is a f****** traitor!!!!! Anyone here that defends her comments is a traitor to the Democratic party as well.

[joeprogressive]

69. k/r

[MonkeyFunk]

70. another stupid fucking "purge" thread

[joeprogressive]

71. Do you comdemn her remarks? If not then you are supporting the republican candidate.

Therefore, get the f*** out.

[MonkeyFunk]

72. and a stupid fucking post

in a stupid fucking purge thread.


You guys have gone truly insane.

[joeprogressive]

75. your candidate has gone insane. not only will she lose the primary

and help aid the enemy but she may have destroyed her political career.

[MonkeyFunk]

91. Nah

you guys act like this is the first election you've ever observed.

This hasn't been a nasty campaign by any means. You're all hysterical.

[ClayZ]

73. Giving her a sack lunch and a road map

as a going away gift would be ok with me. I will buy the map!

[Neshanic]

74. Baby Jesus crys every time Obama gets slighted.

[jackson_dem]

77. 35 recs for a purge thread. Obamanation isn't a cult after all

Some cults have more tolerance for divergent views than Obamanation.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

89. It's something to see, isn't it?

[Dogmudgeon]

78. WWJP?

Who Would Jesus Purge?

--p!

[LadyVT]

79. ridiculous

[joeprogressive]

80. k/r

[barack the house]

81. Acts like a Repub talks like Repub its HRC.

[LVjinx]

83. Hyperventilate much?

[LVjinx]

84. Hyperventilate much?

[rodeodance]

85. You sound like a Repug. SHAME ON YOU.

[stillrockin]

88. Maybe she could start the "New York for Hillary" party à la Lie-berman.

[Medusa]

92. Wouldn't she have to be a member of the party first?

Her behavior clearly illustrates that she is not Pro-Democrat but rather, Pro-Hillary and to hell with anyone and anything else. Power at all costs-even our party and the office of the presidency if she can't have it. She's no Democrat. She's a tratior to our party and to this nation. Never trust a former Republican--and that is exactly what she is proving to be. McCain my ass.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

93. If only we could. Maybe we can shame her out like Lieberman (2 peas in a pod as my mom would say).

[1776Forever]

94. This made me think about what Obama saying he needs us! We need to stand up to HRC & her supporters

I hope that people will get out their signs in Wyoming and Mississippi and go out and let her know her dirty tactics are not good for the party or for her! Stand up and be counted!!!!

:rant:

[shawn703]

95. Bad idea

She'd pull a Lieberman and run as an Independent.

[krkaufman]

96. I don't know about kicking her out of the Party ...

... even though she seems to have already begun supporting the Republicans ... but *some* official admonishment or penalty is deserving.

[cui bono]

97. Yeah, fuck her. She and Lieberman can run together. She's despicable.

[The Stranger]

98. We have had our fill of traitorous Democrats.

[Seabiscuit]

100. Why do you stoop to spreading such lies?

When she was talking about McCain she did NOT say that "Barack Obama has not proven that he has such credentials." She was only referencing herself and McCain.

Paranoia coupled with meanness of spirit coupled with dishonesty.

Shame on you and all of you who spread such lies about either candidate.

[robertpaulsen]

101. If, after losing the Democratic nomination, she runs in GE as an Independent, I'll agree with you.

At this point, as disgusting and MONSTROUS as her praise that John Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran McCain "certainly" has passed the CIC threshold is, it's too early to kick her out of the Party. But way past time she dropped out of the primaries.

[Megahurtz]

102. I say absolutely YES!