Auntie Bush
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:20 AM
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J, Greenfield just discussed VP possibilities |
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Greenfield went over a list of possible candidates. He mentioned Edwards first. Also mentioned Hillery and McCain. Darn! He never even mentioned Clark as a possibility. :cry:
I just can't believe that! What's going on? Sometimes I wonder if we at DU are in our own little world. :shrug: How can we know how great Clark would be as VP but no one else seems to understand this?
I see these four possibilities:
1. Clark is not being considered.
2. Greenfield is full of S**T. Doesn't know his Ass from second base.
3. Kerry is really keeping it a secret till the announcement. 4. The corp/Rethugican/media still has a gag order on Clark because they are scared s***less of that ticket. They keep talking about others because they would be easier to beat.
:puke: The liar-in-chief is on TV now.
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:23 AM
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1. I don't think it will be Clark... |
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Kerry will go for someone that will help secure a swing state.
Look at Rendell, Richardson, Breaux, Landrieu, Vilsack, or even McCain...
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:27 AM
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5. Arkansas is a swing state |
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although kerry is currently looking to bill clinton to help him out in that state.
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Josh
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:51 AM
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14. And Bill Clinton's been lobbying to have Clark on the ticket |
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:57 AM
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16. those are mostly rumors |
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there were similar rumors in the primary and nothing came out to prove it. in fact at one point clinton even came out to defend kerry's record.
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:26 AM
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2. I agree with you on this one |
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"Sometimes I wonder if we at DU are in our own little world."
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JI7
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:26 AM
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3. Kerry IS keeping the vp selection process secret |
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not many in the kerry campaign are involved in the process. but they can still leak things to the media to help their own candidate. from recent reports there are some on the kerry side who are trying to promote mccain because they think he would help win the election. but john kerry himself hasn't and wont be leaking anything. remember, they still haven't done the interviews, and they have to do the whole background check to make sure no surprises pop up that could hurt the campaign.
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:27 AM
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4. CNN anchors and analysts are barred by the WH & can't say the word |
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CLARK
That is why
WTF does Greenfield know?
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:31 AM
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6. Yep - they know there's no way to beat that team. |
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I'm still thinking it might be Clark.
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:34 AM
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7. It is a closely held secret |
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And these pundits and journalists don't have any idea. Pure speculation with little or no facts.
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:38 AM
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He is choosing a VP way too early, going to lose the excitement of a VP choice later...
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JI7
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:41 AM
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he spend over 40 million dollars running attacks against kerry for just the month of march.
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Rufus T. Firefly
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:42 AM
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11. Since the other side opened the campaign early, |
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we HAVE to move early. The whole administration against just Kerry right now is taking its toll. Need to neutralize that by having two candidates out there stumping and taking to the airwaves.
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Rufus T. Firefly
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:40 AM
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9. Right - did anyone see Al Gore coming in 1992? |
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Usually you "balance the ticket," and Clinton picks a fellow southerner, and just one state over from his own. I know I was surprised by that one.
And who would have though Cheney would be the pick, until he picked himself?
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:42 AM
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12. Cheney is out there... |
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on the campaign trail hammering Kerry at every stop. I think the early VP is an attempt to get a public voice out there. Right now it is 2 to 1, and Kerry is looking to even that gap.
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Auntie Bush
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:47 AM
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13. Maybe Johnson wil pick himself too! |
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Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 09:59 AM by Anti Bush
Who would have ever thought Daddy Bush would have picked Dan Quail? I hope Kerry picks someone well known.
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Mon Apr-05-04 09:55 AM
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15. I dont' think he will select anybody who was a candidate |
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From what I've heard (but who knows) he thinks Clark is too much of a political novice. He thinks Edwards has too little experience. He thinks that Dean would be too much of a loose cannon--which would probably be why he wouldn't pick McCain either--along with being a Republican.
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Mon Apr-05-04 10:04 AM
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17. I'm sick of hearing John McCains name around. I think it's Repugs behind |
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it all. A sick joke they and the media keep throwing out to make us look like desperate fools who need a Repug on the ticket to win.
:puke: McCain is not anyone we would want on the ticket and DU'ers who think he's not a "real Repug" should do a Google search on him. You would be surprised at what he's been up to in his career.
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Mon Apr-05-04 11:00 AM
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18. Clark is too undisciplined and inexperienced as a candidate |
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The last thing Kerry needs is a VP choice who will regularly go "off message." Edwards is by far the most disciplined campaigner on the short list -- indeed, he's a far better campaigner than Kerry is.
Unless Kerry's polling shows that another candidate will help Kerry carry a red state, they should go with Edwards. He's a known quantity. He's popular among both the rank and file and the donors. While he is relatively inexperienced, that's not as big a liability as people may think -- remember, George Bush Sr. won the 1988 election, depsite the fact that Quayle was nowhere near as experienced as Lloyd Bensten. Kerry needs someone who can campaign hard, raise money and, most importantly, make the case for replacing Bush with Kerry. That's the kind of closing argument that Edwards could make more effectively than someone like Clark.
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Mon Apr-05-04 03:04 PM
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Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 03:05 PM by fujiyama
that Clark is somewhat inexperienced when it comes to campaigning. I would say he has improved since he dropped out though. He's been making the rounds on various news shows regarding Richard Clarke and has done a pretty good job.
Edwards is probably one of the best campaigners the party has got, but the one area where Kerry is still behind Bush is on national security. I don't see how Edwards helps on that.
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Mon Apr-05-04 11:07 AM
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19. Been thinking back....VP is always a surprise! |
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I actually think Kerry is sitting back and laughing at all the speculation and how wrong they all are.
Just sit tight and wait. The name will be announced in time.
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Mon Apr-05-04 03:10 PM
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21. Greenfield never misses an opportunity to marginalize Clark. |
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During the primaries, he went out of his way to rebut Snyder when he suggested that if Clark had run in Iowa, he'd be where Kerry is now. Crowley was laughing when they cut back to her. Brown looked like he wanted to say something, but held his tongue.
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