quinnox
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:25 PM
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One reason I think Kerry should pick a young vp |
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is they can run for president after Kerry's term(s) are done. I know Clark is wanted by some, but he would be too old to run for president after that.
And I am wary about Edwards too, because of the trial lawyer and inexperience arguments.
I'm not sure who it should be, but my opinion the vp should be at least as young in the mid 50's or below and have the appropriate gravity for the position too.
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:29 PM
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1. NAh, 8 years of Kerry/Clark is what we need |
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Then some young buck can duke it out with the next crackpot Repug to come out of thier cave.
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:33 PM
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2. i think Kerry probably prefers someone younger |
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because at least the first presidential victory for someone who was vp is seen as a win for the person they served president under.unless kerry thinks an older person is the only one who can help him in november i think he will go with a younger person who is VERY likely to run for president after serving as vp.
this also allows him to influence someone in helping to continue with many of his long term goals.
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:38 PM
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3. Exactly, and if Kerry is very successful then |
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then the vp would be in a good position for the presidency after the administration is over. Ok, I know it didn't work with Clinton/Gore but it was very close and maybe Gore was not the right man personality wise to win. A friend always told me Gore was way too boring and dull to win, and I think there is some merit in that.
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:45 PM
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5. gore's mistake was distancing himself from clinton |
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kerry is using clinton as much as he can. he doesn't care if clinton overpowers him in speeches as long as it helps him. he has clinton's people on his side. of course kerry had a big part in many of the things that bill clinton did during his time in office especially things like normalization of relations with vietnam. kerry also defended clinton from attacks on him not serving in vietnam.
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:50 PM
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Gore made some serious mistakes, but of course hindsight is 20/20.
He should have won anyway, Bush was lucky in the Florida fiasco.
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Thu Apr-08-04 03:10 PM
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8. don't tell anyone , but gore won |
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in spite of all the shenanigans he still came away with over 500,000 more votes than the current resident of the WH.
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Fri Apr-09-04 05:40 AM
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21. Exactly, and that * we use with Bush's name? |
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:40 PM
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Is 16-24 years of Dems in the Whitehouse, starting with Kerry, followed by Dean, followed by a female POTUS.
But I doubt I'll see a Kerry/Dean ticket. The two men would make a great team, I think, except for the bias against an all North Eastern ticket. Too bad...
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Thu Apr-08-04 02:47 PM
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i think despite the differences they can work together. but the northeastern thing is what hurts. but i'm sure dean will still be considered for vp by kerry.
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Thu Apr-08-04 04:34 PM
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9. After listening to Evan Bayh |
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on CNN about his views on Condlies I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher let alone want him as the veep. What a kiss ass, he was supposed to be the "Dem" point of view on this particular segment.
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Thu Apr-08-04 06:23 PM
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it was sickening wasn't it.
what a punk.
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Thu Apr-08-04 07:05 PM
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11. I will croak if Kerry picks Bayh. |
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He's close to being a Republican. I don't he and Kerry would agree agree on many things.
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Thu Apr-08-04 07:19 PM
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12. It's gonna be Edwards. |
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I believe that as much as I believe the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.
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Thu Apr-08-04 07:47 PM
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13. see, i believe it's gonna be gephardt. |
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and i believe THAT as the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.
((not saying i agree or think this is the best choice, but i do think this is the one))
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Thu Apr-08-04 07:50 PM
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15. I think Gephardt is far more likely than Clark, Graham or Breaux. |
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Gephardt actually brings concrete things 'to the table', like labor support, etc. . Breaux arguably makes LA a battleground. Clark and Graham? :shrug:
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Thu Apr-08-04 11:51 PM
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17. i think Edwards or Gephardt |
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i base it on some "not so deep" analysis i did. of course kerry has a lot more information on polls and other things and he does a LOT of thinking and will of course do the same with his vp decision so i would never bet on who he would pick. but i say edwards of gephardt at this point based on both of them being popular among "reagan democrats" type voters. kerry is having trouble mostly with moderate to conservative leaning voters and this is where edwards and gephardt do best in. most vote based on who is at the top of the ticket, but in a close election if edwards or gephardt could even get a few of them to vote for the ticket it could make the difference between loss and victory in some states.
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Fri Apr-09-04 05:39 AM
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20. I will be in a dark mood if Kerry pick the Gep |
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I'm a Deaniac that has moved on and accepted Kerry, but I still haven't gotten over the bitterness of Iowa, nor over Gephardt's performance in his House "Leadership" position.
Some cuts run deeper than others.
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Fri Apr-09-04 07:16 AM
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23. As a Deaniac, that would be a bitter pill to swallow. |
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I'd still work as hard as I could to get Sen. Kerry elected, but it would be a far less enjoyable task, if Gephardt were the VP nominee... :puke:
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Thu Apr-08-04 07:47 PM
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14. I'd Rather Control Congress/Senate After 8 Years Of White House |
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Let Kerry appoint judges for 8 years and get National Security & Economy & Environment on the right track.
Then let the lawmakers solidify the advances.
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Thu Apr-08-04 07:58 PM
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16. Most presidential candidates pick younger running mates. |
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Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 08:04 PM by elperromagico
In fact, with only three exceptions (both VP picks in 2000, the Democratic candidate in 1988), each one of the last fourteen major party VP candidates has been anywhere from two to twenty-three years younger than the presidential candidate.
2000: Gore (b. 1948)/Lieberman (b. 1942)* Bush (b. 1946)/Cheney (b. 1941)* 1996: Clinton (b. 1946)/Gore (b. 1948) Dole (b. 1923)/Kemp (b. 1935) 1992: Clinton (b. 1946)/Gore (b. 1948) Bush (b. 1924)/Quayle (b. 1947) 1988: Bush (b. 1924)/Quayle (b. 1947) Dukakis (b. 1933)/Bensten (b. 1921)* 1984: Reagan (b. 1911)/Bush (b. 1924) Mondale (b. 1928)/Ferraro (b. 1935) 1980: Reagan (b. 1911)/Bush (b. 1924) Carter (b. 1924)/Mondale (b. 1928) 1976: Carter (b. 1924)/Mondale (b. 1928) Ford (b. 1913)/Dole (b. 1923)
The average age difference for the Democrats is less than 1 year (0.14 years). The average age difference for the Republicans is a whopping 12.71 years.
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Fri Apr-09-04 12:13 AM
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18. If we were to park Edwards in North Carolina as the VP nominee.. |
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for a few months, could he deliver his home state? That's a huge concern of mine.
If he's the nominee, I'd suggest to Kerry that Edwards rack-up frequent flyer miles between Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. Those three states.
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Fri Apr-09-04 07:14 AM
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22. Add Wisconsin and Iowa to that list. |
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Sen. Edwards did quite well in both states, don't forget.:)
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Fri Apr-09-04 07:48 AM
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25. That was among Democrats |
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The general election is a totally different ballgame.
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Fri Apr-09-04 12:39 AM
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19. I think we'll have pleanty of options come 2012 |
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There's pleanty of Senators and Governors that we would be speculating for VP nods except for their not having served long enough. By 2012 many of them should be ready for a run at national office. Plus we may have 1 or 2 from this year's primary *cough Dean and Clark that may want to give it another go after Kerry's 2nd term is up.
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Fri Apr-09-04 07:45 AM
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24. Clark won't be too old |
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He'll be 66 in 2012. That's younger than Reagan, Dole, Bush, Eisenhower etc.
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