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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:11 AM
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Time to roll out Wes Clark again
Remember how Wes Clark devoted a portion of every campaign appearance to criticizing the Bush Administration's performance on terrorism BEFORE 9/11? And all our other candidates stood there and either admired his guts without saying anything or openly criticized him for it (Lieberman).

So then what happens? Clark with an 'e,' our good man Richard, comes out with a book that basically validates everything Wes was saying and puts BushCo on the defensive for the first time on 9/11.

The Dems could do worse than to get Wes some air time right now to talk about the Commission and the debacle in Iraq; basically make the same points he made all along during the campaign. Kerry keeps his hands clean while the four-star general does some serious damage.

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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:59 AM
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1. I agree.
We need to keep Bush on the defensive as long as we can. However, it might be best to wait till Clark is needed. For example, when the 9/11 commission starts to drop out of the news, then we bring out Clark and Bob Graham and all our surrogates.
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:18 AM
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2. And Clark would be very effective in articulating Iraq solutions
America needs to hear solid solutions to the Iraq mess not just critique of Bush and Rummy's f*** ups. Hmmm as the VP nominee he could be Kerry's point man on Iraq and terrorism.

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sphere Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 06:26 PM
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5. Kerry's VP: Wes Clark?
I would definitely like to see Gen. Clark come up for consideration.
I'm concerned that VP will end up being pro-war John Edwards, or, worst case scenario, pro-war and anti-choice Evan Bayh. Bayh, especially, could cause defections to Nader.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 06:31 PM
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6. An anti-war VP could cause problems, as well...
Think of the debates and the commercials....
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Josh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:34 PM
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7. For the last time, Evan Bayh is NOT pro-life.
nt.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:59 PM
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13. Heck yes!
Gods I hope Kerry picks Clark. Clark would make a fantastic VP, and having two veterans on the ticket would put the thumbscrews to the PNAC chickenhawks.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:18 AM
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3. He was on CNN Friday morning
talking about what a botch job Iraq is...now that he is no longer a candidate, I think CNN will go to him more often. CNN did, however, put "Supports John Kerry" under his name when he was talking, along with "ret. general" and "former NATO commander"
I'd love to see more of Wes.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:18 AM
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4. Yes, I do remember Clark giving dire warnings about PNAC's...
plans while Turkey-Chin Lieberman would gobble in his
croaky voice about what a "Republican" Clark was. The
other candidates were often too silent on this issue.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 11:03 PM
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8. Oh, I think that's been arranged...
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 11:10 PM by hf_jai
Seems like the General has been all over the airwaves, and cable of course, in the last week or so. CNN a couple times (Aaron Brown's show, Judy Woodruff, and that morning show they have just yesterday). Scarborough Country twice in one week. Greta whatzits on Faux news two nights ago. All over the radio day before yesterday--carried on Clear Channel stations, and a live interview on Alan Colmes (bleech) show. Interviewed on Air America at least once that I know of, on its second day.

Clark's the guy carrying the Democratic message--Kerry's message--on Iraq and terrorism, and why Bush is failing at both. I would imagine Kerry's perfectly happy with what he's been saying, cuz the campaign keeps putting him out there. Kerry himself seems to be holding back--must be some strategic reason for it. I hope.

As someone who's been behind him since the draft days, I find it kind of hard to see Clark not get credit for calling it right from the beginning (altho Joe Scab did indeed mention as much in an intro, about Iraq being 3 weeks of battle followed by "lots of trouble"--which Clark didn't even acknowledge). But he's more interested in getting the truth out now that who gets credit for what was said before.

Well, nice to see some people remember. Thanks.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:23 PM
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14. A logical person would assume that Clark was going to be Kerry's VP
handsdown....I was very early in speculating that the deal had been done.

However, I'm beginning to think it's not going to happen. It's partly my gut, partly some reports I've gotten.

My hopes are lagging, considerably.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:29 PM
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9. It was Clark (Wes) who put the AWOL issue in the spotlight recently
We've got some really good people on our side. I'm glad my party isn't made up of greedy liars who will do and say anything to feed their greed.
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:55 PM
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10. Trial Baloon?
Does anyone think his recent media appearances were encouraged by the Kerry camp to see how his message would sound? I was actually for Clark in the primary.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:17 PM
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12. partly i think.
he has asked edwards to appear for him also recently. i think both clark and edwards do a good job campaigning for kerry.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:12 PM
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11. Why do you think Kerry asks Clark to campaign for him so much ?
remember kerry thanking clark for doing so many things for him at the unity dinner ?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:21 PM
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15. Wes is the best man
to do just that. Who better to speak about Iraq? He knows foreign policy inside out and can make this administration look like the inept assholes they are. I don't know why we haven't heard from him lately....unless I missed him? :shrug:
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sphere Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:21 PM
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16. Wes Clark for VP
Wes is my man. Can't challenge patriotism or defense credentials of combat veteran and former NATO Supreme Commander. Go Wes! Handsome-Generous-Brave!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:25 PM
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17. Welcome to DU, sphere!
:hi: You have great taste in candidates. :7 Welcome aboard!
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:05 PM
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20. You must have
posted your response to #16 at the same exact time as me with the same exact words! Coincidence?
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:03 PM
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19. Welcome to DU, Sphere...
You've got very good taste in VP choices
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:55 PM
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18. The VP debate would be music to my ears...
The four star general vs another draft dodging corporate whore. Priceless.
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