The Alamo And George Bush

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I saw the movie The Alamo yesterday evening and was blown away by the courage of the men there who gave their lives in a noble but doomed cause...

It made me think of today's contemporary political figures and who would have stayed and fought and who would have cut and run...


I think John Kerry, Bob Kerrey, Bob Dole, John McCain, and Papa Bush would have stayed and fought....

I think Rush Limbaugh, William Bennett, George W Bush, and Dick Cheney would have tried to run and surrender...

What contemporary political figure would have been the first to surrender?

[LittleApple81]

1. They would have hired a Mexican to dig a tunnel for them and

escaped. And then they will call the ones who fought "cowards".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. They Would Be Like The Soldier In Private Ryan

who did everything he could to avoid engaging the enemy.

[BlueJazz]

4. And blame the whole mess on Harold E Clinton...

(Bill Clinton's Great, Great, Great Grandfather)

[TexasProgresive]

9. and when the Mexican complained....

about being stiffed out of his low wages they would threaten to turn him over to INS.

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. They would have attacked Venezuela a month later

Claiming there were Mexican terrorist training camps and weapons of mass destruction right next to the oil down there

[rpannier]

5. Hannity

And he would have blamed Liberals for it.

[TN al]

6. Well in consideration that Sam Houston had ordered the alamo...

abandoned because it didn't fit into the defensive plans the Texians had made I would say that all of the people you mention in the polls would not have surrendered it and those you say would have stayed and fought would have left. There is nothing about personal valor in that assessment it is simply an understanding of military tactics and the chain of command. My lord people, I hate the right as much as anyone but I don't let it blind me (sometimes).

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. That's Not My Understanding

It seemed like the regulars abd irreregulars serving at the Alamo were left out to dry...

They were waiting for reenforcements that never came....

As for Sam Houston his tactical retreat was masterful....

Sucking the enemy in till he could be readily defeated....

[TN al]

13. Of course the movie would tell you a different story...

...otherwise you would leave the theater thinking "what a bunch of idiots" and not "wow, i have to start a DU poll." c'mon friend, I mean these guys were texans after all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Davey Crockett Wasn't A Texan...

NT

[corporatewhore]

19. neither were alotta of the alamo defenders

[molly]

20. Not really

both Houston and Travis went to Texas to sell land. And, the people living there at the time were called Texians. Crocket went there after he was defeated in Congress because he wanted an opportunity to be on top of the political pool.

[molly]

17. My husband explained to me where the song

"The Yellow Rose of Texas" originated. If you remember in the movie - right before Santa Ana was attacked - he was in his uniform. The next scene, he had just a white shirt and pants as he was running away. There was a woman in Sam Houston's camp that realized what a ladies' man Santa Ana was. She went into Santa Ana's camp and "occupied" him in his tent until Houston attacked. The Mexican soldiers were waiting for Santa Ana's orders when Houston attacked, but he was too "busy".

[AspenRose]

22. The legend you speak of is Emily Morgan

Often described as a "mulatta," hence "yellow rose."

The Emily Morgan Hotel is right near the Alamo in San Antonio.

I haven't seen the movie but I'd be surprised if she showed up in it, as the legend portrays her...a beautiful biracial woman keeping Santa Anna, er, "distracted."

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[TN al]

8. Your over-under for staying at DU is...

...about 2 minutes ago I think

[rasputin1952]

10. Since it has been established that all of the above have serious flaws

in the courage dept...I can safely say that I am glad I would not have served w/any of them if I had been in the Alamo.

That entire group would have been long gone before the battle began; bush would have been "The Yellow Rose of Texas".

:(

[Paulie]

11. The Alamo = Fallujah?

Sounds like we're using Santa Anna's tactics in Iraq.... eek!

All of them.... every last POS one of them... would have soiled themselves

[genius]

14. I just saw the bloody Jesus movie. I don't want to see another bloodbath

movie. Although I can't imagine anything being more bloody and grotesque than the Jesus movie which was bloody, practically start to finish.

[molly]

16. I just got back from seeing it

and the comment Santa Ana made that it was OK for his soldiers to die because he had so many - like chickens - reminded me of GWB.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. At Least Santa Ana Was Near The Front Lines...

NT

[corporatewhore]

18. Do you know what the anglos were fighting for?

The Freedom to have slaves. And doin alittle dirty work for Genocide Jackson.Sure Tejanos fought alongside them because they wanted independce from santa anna but were screwed after words by the anglos

[mitchum]

21. Thank you for the truth...

I was growing a little concerned about all of the fulsome praise for "the noble defenders of The Alamo"

[LandOLincoln]

24. Yep. Corporatewhore, you make me crazy more often than not,

but I'm glad to see someone finally expose the reason Texas was so hellbent to be free from Old Mexico.

And something we like to say here in NEW Mexico:

Poor New Mexico--so far from Heaven, so close to Texas. :-)

[Josh]

25. Limbaugh, because he doesn't actually believe in anything. It's just $$$

for him - you know he never even voted for Reagan? Didn't vote at all during the 80s. Wasn't important enough to him. You wouldn't know, listening to him.