Hillary has guaranteed that Obama won't offer her a veep spot.

[dailykoff]

Even if he wanted to, her comments appearing to endorse McCain have made it inconceivable. The McCain ads would be everywhere and impossible to refute and he'd win without breaking a sweat.

Didn't anybody tell Hillary it's not a good idea to burn your bridges? :shrug:

[Herman Munster]

1. she doesn't care about being VP

She's been VP to Bill for 8 years.

This is a strategy to peel some voters who like both Obama and Hillary to vote for Hillary and get 2 for 1.

[dailykoff]

2. What else can she hope for at this point?

Basically veep is all she's got left. And she's blown that too.

[Herman Munster]

4. no this is a strategy to the super delegates

If the superdelegates vote for her, the party is united because she'll make Obama VP.

Hillary as VP would never happen in a million years for obvious reasons.

[dailykoff]

12. Yeah I get that, but as a strategy it doesn't stand a chance.

She might fool a few voters in MS, but the supers are champing at the bit to break for Obama and Hillary knows it. She may be posturing, but veep is seriously the best she can hope for, whether she's admited it or not.

[Zhade]

34. The SDs aren't going to overlook the fact that Obama's won twice the states she has...

...and holds a huge popular vote lead.

Clintbots hoping for a SD change sweeping Clinton into the nomination are dreaming. Never gonna happen, thankfully.

[earthlover]

51. This is insane! Hillary is behind in every way possible....

She has lost 13 out of 16 primaries....not exactly what you could conceivably call momentum. She is behind in pledged delegats so far that she would need 62% to even tie in the remaining contests. She has lost super delegates during the past weeks. And add to this the fact that she has dissed Obama even saying he is only one speech compared with the Republican nominee. So....how on earth is it possible for any sane person to argue that the candidate who is behind in every way gets to be on the top of the ticket? Oh....I guess I forgot....the Hillary Herd is a CULT! They drink the kool aid over there. They actually believe they are winning!

[tularetom]

8. The way she's kissing McCain's ass

She has a damn good shot at being VP on the repuke ticket.

I think it'd be a good move for her to finally come out of the closet.

[CyberPieHole]

23. Obama did a whole lot of brown~nosing on Reagans dead ass...

and he can always go back to working as counsel for his Syrian bud, Antoin Rezko.

[Zhade]

38. Is there a reason you point out that Rezko is Syrian?

Smacks of bigotry.

[Hatalles]

56. This is the second time I've seen this person do this.

[JackORoses]

43. He'll be just fine as President. Hillary can spend her new found free time baking cookies.

[istopforcookies]

55. Baking cookies?

My, how sexist.

[CitizenLeft]

59. "baking cookies"

March 26, 1992
Correspondent: Jackie Judd
Anchor: Ted Koppel

TED KOPPEL (VO): Meet the new political wife. She has a career, she has opinions. A partner in every way.

GOV BILL CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And my slogan might well be, "Buy one, get one free".

KOPPEL (VO): And now, she's become controversial.

HILLARY CLINTON: I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life.

[Whisp]

63. how do you figure that as brown nosing?

Obama pointed out that Reagan was adept at solidifying the repug base, (and actually stealing some dems in the process) and this did change the dynamics and direction of the republican party which has empowered them unbalanced since then.

This is just pointing out a fact, not agreeing with or brown nosing.

wtf?

[unblock]

67. waaah, she can be a measly senator.

that's hardly a bad gig.

[Exilednight]

74. This is what she is hoping for.....

She will torpedo Obama in the GE, and then say "I told you so" and open the door to run in 2012.

I think she is willing to run in 4 years, but she isn't willing to wait 8. It's a numbers game.

[Elidor]

5. VP to Bill?

Did I just dream Al Gore? Was he not real?

[Herman Munster]

10. Gore was always #3 in the clinton white house

It's why he's so pissed at them.

[Elidor]

27. He held the office and did the duties

There is no way you can sit here and tell me that Hillary was effectively the VP. That is pure and utter balderdash.

[Exilednight]

75. That, and the fact that Bill did to him what Obama is doing to Hillary.

[BearSquirrel2]

Only in the "old timey" sense ...

Back in the old days, Veeps were nominated and never heard from again. They were ticket balancers who no one expected anything for. Given that Hillary had no security clearance, I would suspect here "VP" role was confined to this. Al Gore did the heavy lifting ... thank you.

I do think that Hillary had a big plan for Hillary's involvement. After the health care plan, that all dissolved.

[Spider Jerusalem]

You might want to check your history...that was Al Gore.

[JTFrog]

15. Oh JFC, now first lady counts as fucking VP experience?

What fucking world do you really live in? Are your Overlords everything you always dreamed they would be?

[earthlover]

47. Peel some voters? More like dupe some voters!

No friggin way Hillary would offer Obama VP after what she has said about Obama! She thinks her listeners are so friggin stupid that they will fall for her sayin that the MIGHT get both on the ticket if they vote for her. Yeah...right.... She doesn't have any plan except tricking voters into voting for her by flashing Obama as a carrot.

Didn't work in Wyoming. Gees...who on Earth would be so friggin DUMB?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

72. That'll probably be news to Gore.

:wtf:

[roguevalley]

79. I don't want her near that job. If anything happens to Barak, she's

it. Don't think that hasn't crossed their minds.

[Seeker30]

3. I doubt she would accept VP

[dailykoff]

6. Oh I think she'd accept it.

It's either that or kiss her Madam President daydreams goodbye forever, and I don't see that happening.

[emilyg]

18. No she wouldn't.

[dailykoff]

26. She'd take it in a heartbeat. Why wouldn't she?

Is junior senator so much more attractive?

[Cant trust em]

28. I have a tough time imagining Clinton choosing to be someone's second in command

My guess is that she'd rather be a senate leader than second fiddle to Obama. Her time is right now and if she doesn't win the nomination she'll never be president. She's 60 years old now. After we win in the fall and take two terms, she'll be 68 before she can run again.

[goclark]

40. I thought she was 52! She is almost as old as I am

so I understand why she is crazy.

She is too damn old to run all over the world like she did in her young days.

That's why she is so exhausted and makes poor choices.

No ~ she is not 60 is she---she needs Obama, he has youth on his side.

[Cant trust em]

48. I'm 27 and I slow down in the afternoons

boy do I love a quick nap at around 2:00.

[goclark]

62. Right,, think how you'll feel if you are McCain

and for sure Hillary is not as swift at 62 ~at 62 most people that have had a long career want to slow down and start smelling the roses and being with those they love.

They want a better quality of life.

I'm sure she must be different because she seems to thrive on "winning at any cost."

[Cant trust em]

64. The slowdown age for politicians is much later

Clinton doesn't seem like 60 year olds in the real world. Seems pretty vivacious to me. Perhaps a little too much.

[Herman Munster]

7. it's not a matter of accepting or not

it'll never be offered to her as she adds nothing to Obama heading the ticket. It would be a joke ticket. Everyone would think Hillary was running the show because Obama has no experience.

[dailykoff]

17. Well you're right about never

but she wouldn't be staying in if she didn't think she could force him to offer it to her.

[BearSquirrel2]

19. Not everyone ...

Not everyone, just Hillary supporters who consider being the President's wife a national security credential.

[earthlover]

52. No way she is going to be offered it

[BearSquirrel2]

9. Agreed ...

Agreed, McCain would run commercials featuring Obama's running made saying McCain was unqualified. She crossed the Rubicon, there is no going back.

[tabatha]

11. Hillary has no idea of consequences.

Hence she would be a disaster as a president.

[John Q. Citizen]

31. Yep. She would be a disaster, both for the party and for the country.

[MindMatter]

70. Not a very good strategic thinker. Actually a piss poor strategic thinker

This is why she lost the health care thing in 1993. This is why Obama, "the novice", has campaigned circles around her. This is how she first ended up on the wrng side of the Iraq war resolution (that is somewhat understandable) but then did the same damn thin on the Iran resolution. If it weren't for the rebellion led from teh inside of the CIA, Cheney would have us dropping bombs on Iran by now, all consistent with the resolution she voted for.

Obama is a brilliant strategic thinker. He thinks everything through. She doesn't, plain and simple.

If she had any strategic sense, she would have made different choices about how to spend her campaign dollars. And she would have put an organization on the ground in TX. You could maybe cut her some slack when she lost Iowa because maybe she didn't know what to expect from the competition. But after Iowa, there's no excuse for his strategic myopia.

She just isn't a strategic thinker. She really shouldn't be in the Senate.

[jalynn]

13. Obama supporters

with attitudes like you have is exactly why I do not or will not support him

[Cha]

35. With your ignorant

self inflated attitude I'm not sure you'd be missed.

[emilyg]

14. Don't think she cares.

[CyberPieHole]

16. Without Clinton's supporters, Obama will NEVER be president...

He won't be able to win the GE without wooing Clinton's voters...and Obama's tactics have assured that a decent percentage of Clinton supporters will NEVER vote for him in the GE. Even if it means having McCain as President. Obama called the Clinton's "racists" and therefore crossed the line. There is NO turning back.

Obama should have taken the "burnt bridges" analogy to heart.

[dailykoff]

21. He's done pretty well without them so far.

But yes, I agree, he'll need all Dems behind him in November, and I think he'll be careful not to alienate anyone and to reach out to Hillary's supporters. But I don't think he'll offer her the veep slot.

[CyberPieHole]

25. It's too late. He has already "alienated" Hillary's supporters...

by calling the Clinton's "racists" he did not win himself our support.

If "he's done pretty well without them so far" he doesn't really need us. So let him do it on his own.

[dailykoff]

29. Some, but then a lot of them have said they'll vote for McCain

so they wouldn't be helpful in the first place.

[CyberPieHole]

33. Your'e right that a percentage of Hillary's voters will defect to McCain...

I guess you've got that going for you.:eyes:

[dailykoff]

36. A much larger cohort of independents and new voters

will come out for Obama. That's what the primaries have shown, and I suspect that's why the supers are anxious to wrap this thing up.

[milkyway]

44. When did Obama call the Clintons racists? I must have missed that.

[Iceburg]

78. Were you in a coma? -- history will judge Obama's sleaze for placing the race card harshly.

That was the turning point -- nothing he can do now will bring those voters back -- not now or in any future election. He may have won a battle he created but he has lost the war.

[femmedem]

71. When exactly did Obama call the Clintons racist?

I would like to see a link, please.

Edited typo.

[Seeker30]

42. That very well could be the dumbest thing I've ever read on here

Of course he's done fine without them so far...HE'S RUNNING AGAINST HER....HELLO!

I for one will no way vote for Obama after seeing the shit from his followers. This sense of entitlement and the trashing of one of the greatest presidents ever...no fucking way will I endorse that bullshit and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way.

[cali]

46. People who won't vote for the dem nominee

because their wittle feelings are hurt by the other sides' supporters, are fucking selfish blind assholes of the first order. I don't care if they support Hillary or Obama. I can't stand a lot of you hillbots. Hilly makes me sick, but not being a selfish idiot, I'll vote for her if she's the nominee because I know the world doesn't revolve around me and my feelings. The SC, the environment and numerous other critical issues are what I base my decision on. You folks who won't vote for the dem nominee are pathetic.

[Seeker30]

53. I'll tell you whats pathetic

Its people such as yourself who come on here and piss and moan about Hillary playing dirty while Obama is such a saint and yet you are some of the dirtiest players I've seen. Only trash would make comments about a candidates daughter, her looks, and any other classless shit you can come up with.

If thats the type of people that support Obama then count me out. Clear enough for you?

[Bigleaf]

54. Whenever I hear a Hillary supporter say the words "Obama" & "Entitlement"

in the same sentence, I bust out laughing. We're talking about Hillary Clinton. She was the chosen one since I don't know when. But she fucked up. She picked the wrong team, had no strategy beyond Super Tuesday, no ground game to speak of, and now she finds herelf hanging by her fingers off the edge of a cliff, Obama standing over her getting ready to step on those fingers. And for the record, I think I can say that most Obama supporters were fine with Hillary until the McCain shit and threshold BS. That's where she crossed the line with us. That's why we're pissed. We don't like the fact that Hillary is helping to produce and star in commercials for McCain against Obama come GE time.

[Zhade]

41. They race-baited. That's pretty racist.

You should be outraged at her for using the tactic, not those who abhor its use.

[JackORoses]

45. Are you going to shut your Piehole when Hillary bows out?

[blm]

65. Clinton's supporters wouldn't support an Obama/Biden ticket for example?

Are you SURE?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

20. At This Point, If Things Go To The Wire, That WON'T Be Up To Him.

Maybe you should think about that, a bit.

[BenDavid]

22. you obama folks cannot have it both ways on this...well of course

HRC has the experience.McCain has a life of experience. Well yes he does, the damn man is 71 years old....She did not say it was good experience, now did she? NO!.......and if I remember right obama a few months back was hyper on reagan and saying things about him and his ideas.....obama did not say they were good ideas now did he?

But hrc is right. Obama has only given a speech in 2002. So, I need to ask the following:Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2003?
Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2004, at Kerry's convention?
Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2005?
Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2006?
Where was Obama's anti-war filibuster in 2007? Was stopping the war worth standing up, Barack?

Perhaps what you obama folks are really asking, "If he's got more than a 2002 speech - where is it?"

[dailykoff]

24. The problem for Hillary is nobody cares about her experience.

She hasn't gotten us out of Iraq or even tried and we want someone who will.

[CyberPieHole]

30. If "nobody" cares about her experience, why hasn't Obama sealed the deal?

Obama's been funding the war he "says" he would have voted against. Although he told us he didn't know how he would have voted for it.

[DesEtoiles]

32. He has.

[istopforcookies]

57. But he's funding the war.

Oops.

[CyberPieHole]

37. dailykoff, thanks for the discussion...

I have to run, but I enjoyed the banter with you. You're alright, even if you are on the wrong side. Have a good night and keep up the good fight.:hi:

[dailykoff]

39. thanks Pie!

Night! :hi:

[Az_lefty]

49. no doubt, too much bad blood now.

all she can do now is try to steal the nomination (which you can be guaranteed they will try) and that will tear apart the Dem party. So we can welcome with open arms little George II, John McCain.

[DrFunkenstein]

50. What State Would Clinton Deliver? Arkansas?

She adds nothing to the ticket. Obama-Webb 2008!

[Jillian]

58. Thank God. I would hate for that SNL skit to come true.

[CatnHat]

60. Guess Obama

sticking up Reagan's ass is ok. You people are sick. Obama can dennouce Bill Clinton's presidency as irrelevant and that just wonderful. Obama is a hypocrite along with his fans.

[Horse with no Name]

61. another idiot who bought the fake story

Your ignorance precedes you. Congratulations.

[candice]

66. An Obama VP would have to do all of the real work...

...who'd want it?

He said he's hire the expertise to do the job. Let him get a VP who can be a preener, not a doer.

[Unbowed]

68. My opinion is that nobody

tells Hillary much of anything.

[cbayer]

69. I am really tired of these 3 line opinioin pieces

That pretend to know what a candidate will or will not do with no actual data to back up the claim.

They are nothing but flame-bait.

Are you enjoying the fire your created?

[PetraPooh]

73. Well, then I owe her a thank you anyway.

[KoKo]

76. Word! ...Watch this one....

http://current.com/items/88854218_the_democratic_messiah

[KoKo]

77. WATCH THIS...about OBAMA/HILLARY..then get back to the Nomination!

http://current.com/items/88854218_the_democratic_messiah