In the GE Obama will not be carry the big states thatHillary's won in the primaries

[elixir]

Even if Obama gets the nomination his 34 - 45% turnout in the primaries may not translate into a win in those states in November. He'll have a hard time picking up enough to carry them, even if Hillary's supporters swing over.

Tom Daschle is soooo ineffectual. He keeps repeating on MTP how many states BO has won even though some of the states won't matter in November, they're blue states.

[stray cat]

1. New York and Ca will vote for McCain! Not likely

[SoFlaJet]

2. Bullshit elixir

democratic excitement and turnout are unprecedented in this cycle and DEMOCRATS will win the states NOT HIllarycrats.

[Window]

29. Double bullshit.

Agree wholeheartedly SoFlaJet.

[BobRossi]

3. So if he wins the nomination he should concede to McClone ASAP!

Got it. More fear based logic from the Hillarious camp.

[Carolina]

4. another delusional, willfully blind

Hillbot.

[NDambi]

5. Yeah we know all those states will definitely vote for McSame..McLame..

Please prove that Obama won't win those states.

Whatcha got?

[pocoloco]

9. Hillary told them to!!

[MonkeyFunk]

11. current polling has

McCain beating Obama in New Jersey.

[NDambi]

current polling..is that all you got...lol

I have no proof that he will and neither do you..

Now what else ya got to prove that McLame will beat Obama in NJ,Cali, NY, etc..

Polling isn't proof.

[MonkeyFunk]

23. What the fuck do you want?

Nobody else has anything better to go on, either. That's a pretty fucking weak response.

How can you prove Obama won't lose all 50 states? You can't.

[NDambi]

25. I never said I could prove it...but you my dearheart

offered polling as proof...lol

Just admit you got no fucking proof...period.

[Window]

30. I'm in NJ. There is no way McCain can/will win NJ. No way.

[Kber]

33. NJ had been considered a "battleground" in since 2000

and it's always gone blue in the end - by substatial margins.

I wouldn't get too worked up about NJ.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. And why do you make this nonsensical assumption?

This meme of Obama not getting the votes of those who normally pull the straight Dem ticket in a GE because it's not Hillary is laughable.

[Kittycat]

7. Good luck with that theory. Even though you know it's BS

:) Again, another out of touch HillFan trying to say that the base won't vote for the Dem on the ticket. I guess you'll be voting for McCain then? By your theory, none of Obama's supporters will vote for HRC either, which is actually more likely if she tries to steal their voice at the convention :)

Yeah, good luck with that.

[GodlessBiker]

8. Blue states are Dem states. Why wouldn't Obama win them?

[Vinca]

10. Yep, out of the blue all those "big state" Democrats are going to

say to themselves, "Golly, there's really nothing wrong with 100 years of war and the Republican rule over the past 7 years hasn't been all that bad. I really don't mind the house has gone into foreclosure and my last job is now in India, I kind of like McCain." Stupid and idiotic.

[pinkpops]

12. You cant use the primaries as a template for the GE. There will

be some sore losers from the primaries who will stay home and even a few who will vote for McCain. But like it or not the primary is more about personality than policy. That's why any conversations between Obama and Clinton about policy sound like nit-picking.

[catgirl]

13. LOL

Obama will take those states, plus swing states and some red states.
He will be the best nominee for us and the Clintons know that. Their
egos are really getting in the way.

[HooptieWagon]

14. Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one. n/t

[TheZug]

15. I think Yes he carry the bigstate's, yes he can?

[Exilednight]

16. Yet polls conducted show that Obama wins more electorals than Hillary does.....

How do you explain that?

[zulchzulu]

17. This "theory" is based on what?

Obama beats McCain in national polls by a lot more than the Clinton/McCain matchup.

There will be huge numbers of voters voting for Obama that will make those Hillary supporters unwilling to vote for a Democrat be pretty meaningless.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

18. almost every DUer here hated Dashcle when he was Majority leader &worked hard to get rid of him..

now the Obamanites love him WTF?!?!?


some of you really need go outside and get some oxygen

[galaxy21]

20. the Hillary supporters saying they won't vote Obama will change their mind when faced with Bush III

Believe me.

[tridim]

26. I'm willing to bet nobody here "hated" Daschle, and IMO it's disingenuous of you to claim otherwise.

He sucked as Majority Leader because he was soft spoken, but that doesn't mean he was hated as a Senator and a person.

[Donkeykick]

19. I voted for Hillary in Ohio.

But I feel if Obama does win the GE, than we still have a very good chance--matter of fact, more than ever--of winning this thing in November. :shrug:

[Dawgs]

21. So you're saying that even if Obama wins states, pledged dels, and pop vote...

...we should pick Hillary because she won 5 blue states in the primary?

Are you fucking nuts?

Does that also mean that Hillary will lose Illinois; and every other blue state that Obama won?

[C_U_L8R]

22. Logic is not on the Clinton's side

There is no sense or proof to their "big state " argument.
It's amazing what her supporters believe and run with.
Silly season indeed.

[swag]

24. Mapped out from the latest SUSA match-ups

One commentary is here

[jalynn]

27. He don't stand

a chance here in Tennessee

[swag]

28. Here is the latest SUSA match-up map for Clinton-McCain

[skipos]

31. Those maps are great.

Please post them in every thread with the "Obama won't win big blue states" argument.
That is the argument Hillary Inc is throwing out there, and the media eats it up. What a joke.

[swag]

32. It's a bizarre argument. Weird, and contrary to current evidence.

Nothing against the original poster, but I couldn't believe this thread got recs.

Feel free to post the maps wherever you like.