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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:58 AM
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HOW THE CLINTONS MADE $450,000 FROM DUBAI AND THEN BILL HELPED DUBAI PORTS WORLD DEAL THRU CONGRESS
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:00 AM by Dems Will Win

THE CLINTONS RECEIVED $450,000 AND ASSISTED THE EMIR OF DUBAI ON THE DUBAI PORTS WORLD TAKEOVER OF 6 AMERICAN PORTS!

On February 24, 2006, it was reported that there are 22 U.S. ports in the deal, not just the six major ports mentioned in initial news stories and reports. According to the website of P&O Ports, the port-operations subsidiary of P&O, DPW would take over stevedore services at 12 East Coast ports including Portland, Maine; Boston, Massachusetts; Davisville, Rhode Island; New York City; Newark, New Jersey; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Camden, New Jersey; Wilmington, Delaware; Baltimore, Maryland; and Virginia locations at Newport News, Norfolk, and Portsmouth.

Additionally, DPW will take over P&O stevedoring operations at nine ports along the Gulf of Mexico including the Texas ports of Beaumont, Port Arthur, Galveston, Houston, Freeport, and Corpus Christi, plus the Louisiana ports of Lake Charles and New Orleans.

Former Senate Majority Leader and 1996 Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole hired by Dubai Ports World to lobby Congress on its behalf against bipartisan criticism of the deal. Mr. Dole is a special counsel in the Washington office of the law firm Alston & Bird. DP World hired the firm in 2005 to help shepherd its purchase of the British-based firm Peninsular and Oriental

On March 8, 2006 the House Panel voted 62–2 to block the deal, and senator Charles Schumer added amendments to a senate bill to block the deal, causing an uproar in the senate.

On March 9, 2006, Dubai Ports World released a statement saying they would turn over operation of U.S. ports to a U.S. "Entity". Later that same day, American Enterprise Institute scholar Norm Ornstein reported on PBS's "News Hour" that DP World was considering selling its U.S. operations to Halliburton.

Dubai Ports World eventually sold P&O's American operations to American International Group's asset management division, Global Investment Group for an undisclosed sum.



Bill Clinton helped Dubai on ports deal


By Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington

Published: March 1 2006

Bill Clinton, former US president, advised top officials from Dubai two weeks ago on how to address growing US concerns over the acquisition of five US container terminals by DP World.

It came even as his wife, Senator Hillary Clinton, was leading efforts to derail the deal.

Clinton, who this week called the United Arab Emirates a “good ally to America”, advised Dubai’s leaders to propose a 45-day delay to allow for an intensive investigation of the acquisition, according to his spokesman.

Ports backlash makes Arab investors wary

On Sunday, DP World agreed with the White House to undertake the lengthy review, a move which has assuaged some of the opposition from the US Congress.

However, Mrs Clinton remains a leading voice against the deal, and this week proposed legislation to block it, arguing that the US could not afford to “surrender our port operations to foreign governments”.

Tide of populist anger swells in US heartlands

Mr Clinton’s spokesman said: “President Clinton is the former president of the US and as such receives many calls from world leaders and leading figures every week. About two weeks ago, the Dubai leaders called him and he suggested that they submit to the full and regular scrutiny process and that they should put maximum safeguards and security into any port proposal.”

He added that Mr Clinton supported his wife’s position on the deal and that “ideally” state-owned companies would not own US port operations.

Mr Clinton’s contact with Dubai on the issue underscores the relationship he has developed with the United Arab Emirates since leaving office. In 2002, he was paid $300,000 (€252,000) to address a summit in Dubai.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/60414c4c-a95e-11da-a64b-0000779e2340.html?nclick_check=1

Hillary Clinton 'unaware' of Bill's Dubai ties



By Stephanie Kirchgaessner
Updated: 3:12 a.m. ET March 4, 2006

Hillary Clinton, a leading opponent of DP World's takeover of some US port operations, was this week forced to admit that she did not know her husband had advised Dubai leaders on how to handle the growing dispute.

But former President Bill Clinton's ties to Dubai and the United Arab Emirates should not have come as a surprise to his New York senator wife.

http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?news_id=fto030320061433099524&page=2

Hillary Clinton 'unaware' of Bill's Dubai ties; but her senatorial financial disclosure says different!



Senator Hillary Clinton (d-NY) is a leading opponent of the UAE owned DP World's takeover of US port management at 21 different locations.

This week, she stated that she wasn't aware that her husband had advised Dubai leaders on how to handle the growing dispute.Hillary Clinton 'unaware' of Bill's Dubai ties - Financial Times - MSNBC.com

But former President Bill Clinton's ties to Dubai and the United Arab Emirates should not have come as a surprise to his US senator wife.

Mrs Clinton's own senatorial financial disclosure forms reveal that her husband earned $450,000 giving speeches in Dubai in 2002.

Officials from the UAE also donated between $500,000 and $1m to fund Mr Clinton's presidential library in Arkansas!

According to the Financial Times article, this was part of an effort by the emirates, said a person close to UAE officials, to forge a close relationship with a former US president who is influential and highly regarded in the region.

Is that another way of saying `let's bribe us an ex-President and hire hime as a lobbyist?'. I think so. Mr. Bill joins an impressive list of UAE paid lobbyists hammering congress on their behalf,including ex Senate majority Leader Tom Daschele, Clinton's ex-Secretary of State Madeline Albright and ex Republican Senate Minority Leader and presidential candidate Bob Dole.

None of these people work cheap, which leads me to question why the UAE is willing to spread this kind of money around on this deal to get it through.

Mrs Clinton is widely regarded as the leading Democratic candidate for the 2008 presidential elections, and she has used her opposition to the ports deal to attack the Bush administration on national security, an issue that has been a weak point for Democrats.

Some would regard this as classic Clinton-having it both ways.

Needless to say, Mrs. Clinton's selective amnesia may cause some of her proponents to think twice about whether they really want Mrs. Clinton and her husband back in the White House.

http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/03/hillary-clinton-unaware-of-bills-dubai.html

Mrs Clinton's own senatorial financial disclosure forms reveal that her husband earned $450,000 giving speeches in Dubai in 2002.

Officials from the UAE also donated between $500,000 and $1m to fund Mr Clinton's presidential library in Arkansas.

Mr Clinton's admiration for the UAE was last on display in November, when the former president made his fourth visit to the American University in Dubai and met students who have benefited from the Clinton scholarship programme.

The UAE has also contributed to an issue close to the hearts of both the Clinton and Bush families, having donated $100m to Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.

Mrs Clinton's tough stance has given UAE officials some consternation, a person familiar with the deal said. The woman regarded as the leading Democratic candidate for the 2008 presidential elections has used the transaction, which polls show is unpopular with a majority of Americans, to attack the Bush administration on an issue that is considered a weak point for Democrats: national security.

Although Mrs Clinton has been careful not to criticise the UAE directly, her stance has put her in the same camp as legislators who openly accuse Dubai of helping to finance the September 11 terrorist attacks and deem the UAE to be untrustworthy.

Privately, some Democrats see revelations about Mr Clinton's ties to the UAE as a classic Clinton dilemma. Although both Hillary and Bill Clinton say the former president stands behind his wife on the issue, his relationship to the UAE has complicated her position.

The UAE has sought to quell concerns over the deal by hiring a handful of former Clinton officials and other Democrats to lobby on Dubai's behalf. One Democratic lobbyist approached Joe Lockhart, the former press secretary for Mr Clinton, though he turned down the request.

It was part of an effort by the emirates, said a person close to UAE officials, to forge a close relationship with a former US president who is influential and highly regarded in the region.

An Unlikely Criminal Crossroads


From Egypt to Afghanistan, when terrorists and gangsters need a place to meet, to relax, maybe to invest, they head to Dubai, a bustling city-state on the Persian Gulf. The Middle East's unquestioned financial capital, Dubai is the showcase of the United Arab Emirates, an oil-rich federation of sheikdoms. Forty years ago, Dubai was a backwater; today, it hosts dozens of banks and one of the world's busiest ports; its free-trade zones are crammed with thousands of companies. Construction is everywhere--skyscrapers, malls, hotels, and, soon, the world's tallest building.

A godfather's lethal mix of business and politics

But Dubai also serves as the region's criminal crossroads, a hub for smuggling, money laundering, and underground banking. There are Russian and Indian mobsters, Iranian arms traffickers, and Arab jihadists. Funds for the 9/11 hijackers and African embassy bombers were transferred through the city. It was the heart of Pakistani scientist A. Q. Khan's black market in nuclear technology and other proliferation cases. Half of all applications to buy U.S. military equipment from Dubai are from bogus front companies, officials say. "Iran," adds one U.S. official, "is building a bomb through Dubai." Last year, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents thwarted the shipment of 3,000 U.S. military night-vision goggles by an Iranian pair based in Dubai. Moving goods undetected is not hard. Dhows--rickety wooden boats that have plowed the Arabian Sea for centuries--move along the city center, uninspected, down the aptly named Smuggler's Creek.

U.A.E. rulers have taken terrorism seriously since 9/11, but Washington has a half-dozen extradition requests that they refuse to honor. The list includes people accused of rape, murder, and arms trafficking, and the last fugitive of the BCCI banking scandal. The country has put money laundering controls on the books but has made few cases. Interior Minister Sheik Saif bin Zayed Al Nahyan told U.S. News the U.A.E. has made great strides in cracking down, but he insists that the real problems lie elsewhere. "We are a neutral country, like Switzerland," he says. "Give us the evidence, and we will do something about it. Don't blame others." Not everyone agrees. "All roads lead to Dubai," says former treasury agent John Cassara, author of Hide and Seek, a forthcoming book on terrorism finance. Cassara tried explaining U.S. concerns about Dubai to a local businessman but got only a puzzled look: "Mr. John, money laundering? But that's what we do. "

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/051205/5terror.b1.htm


PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU DON'T APPROVE OF THE EMIR OF DUBAI BEING IN CHARGE OF AMERICAN PORTS OR OF BILL'S ADVISING HIM HOW TO DO SO OR IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HILLARY WAS "UNAWARE"!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:58 AM
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1. The deal Hillary Clinton fought against in the Senate?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:01 AM
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5. She only opposed it AFTER it hit the news. She spent that $450,000
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:01 AM by Dems Will Win
she got from the Emir on pantsuits. Where do you think they all came from?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:05 AM
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12. Got any evidence for that?
That she supported it, and then changed her mind?

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:11 AM
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15. She didn't make a peep about it until it hit the news and became controversial
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:17 AM by Dems Will Win
If she was really against it she would have spoke up earlier, but she didn't!

Even after I knew about it, she said nothing for weeks.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:40 PM
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44. Does the media know about this?
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:02 PM
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54. Isn't usage of all caps in the title of this thread sufficient evidence for you?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:01 AM
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6. the one Bill Clinton made a huge chunk of $ from using his days in the WH. He whored himself out
He is nothing more than a lobbyist now using his days as POTUS to rake in millions at a time.

No wonder he started doing charity fundraising- he needs a fig leaf to cover his filthy money.

Book deals and speaking fees weren't enough for him.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:01 AM
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7. It's called triangulating for dollars
Did Bill give the money back when the deal fell through?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:03 AM
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9. How can a wife be "unaware" that her husband got paid $450,000 and yet disclosed it on her form
SHE IS A LIAR
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:13 AM
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16. I get your point!! Hence..Michelle Obama! OMG!
Former vice president for business development of a Rezko real estate company
Executive director of the Illinois Housing Development Authority
South East Chicago Commission (SECC) executive board member (Michelle Obama Treasurer before and during)
Resigned from IHDA during the investigations to go to Senior Vice President and Director of Public Affairs and Government Relations at Northern Trust
Alvin Dworman, principle owner of Northern Trust. Alvin Dworman and Pritzker family owner of Superior Bank. Penny on Board when Bank failed.


I don't know if this means anything but seems like she could be a huge tie in this mess.
Deni | 03.06.2008 - 7:52 pm

She said he schemed with a board member, millionaire attorney Stuart Levine, to share in a bribe to be paid in exchange for approval from the planning board for a

Mercy Hospital expansion in Crystal Lake.

http://www.thesouthern.com/articles/2008/03/06/ap-state-il/d8v87cs80.txt

Is this the hospital MO works at?
msliberal | 03.06.2008 - 7:53





Penny Pritzker is the National Finance Chair of 2008 Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign. Yet the Obama campaign's national finance

chair served as chairman of the Superior Bank from 1989 to 1994, before this savings and loan institution collapsed in July 2001. Yet according to Ely’s Oct. 16, 2001

statement, “Superior’s trick, or business plan” under Penny Prtizker’s chairmanship was apparently “to concentrate on subprimelending, principally on home

mortgages, but for a while in subprime auto lending, too,” after the Pritzkers’ bank acquired its wholesale mortgage organization division, Alliance Funding, in

December 1992. http://www.bostonnow.com/blogs/oldmole/2008/02/12/obama-campaign-finance-chair-involved-in-superior-bank-sampl-scandal


Not only was Penny a board member but her family owned half of the bank along with Alvin Dworman.
http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA398956



During the debates I have noticed that Obama doesn’t show a true relief plan for the Mortgage crisis. Why would a Presidential Candidate hire a person that was

involved in the worst Bank failure up until the time of hiring? Did Penny help him write his proposals to close the loopholes from personal knowledge of how to get

around the auditors? These questions and more will come out in the Vetting season.

*Follow up note Dworman is also the principle owner of Northern Trust (Bank that Obama has his current Mortgage.) pm

<<<<<snip>>>>>>>


Obama's Subprime Problem
John Courtney, commenting February 9, 2008, at Bob McCarty's BMW blog asked

... when is someone going to talk about Obama financial campaign chairman - Penny Pritzker, that cost the Federal Government - taxpayers one billion dollars. when

Superior Bank failed, and 450 million dollars still owed to the FDIC - and they gave her 15 years to pay back - no interest, if Obama get elected is he going to waive

this money owed, all the people the work so hard for there money Obama talks about, hundreds of them, lost there money at Superior Bank, Ms. Pritzker is the only

one that made out on that deal.
For those who do not know, "billionaire business mogul" Penny Pritzker was named in January 2007 as Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)'s national finance chairman. She

was also on the finance committee for Obama’s 2004 campaign for the U.S. Senate. In August 2001, Penny, Thomas, and Nicholas Pritzker were described as

"struggling with a complicated legacy"—"a vast real estate and Hyatt hotel empire"—left to them by its founder, Jay Pritzker, the New York Times reported. In 2005,

Forbes counted Penny Pritzer among The 100 Most Powerful Women, as well as a member of the Forbes 400.

About the Superior Bank failure
The Chicago Sun-Times reported August 3, 2001:
Superior Bank, half-owned by the wealthy Pritzker family, was shut down by the FDIC Friday after a bailout plan by the Pritzkers, who own the Hyatt Hotel chain, and

their partner, New York real estate developer Alvin Dworman, fell through. The bank failed because it had lost nearly all of its more than $2 billion of assets on bad

loans to high-risk borrowers, federal regulators said.

The FDIC reopened the bank Monday as Superior Federal and is seeking a buyer and a new CEO.


good place to start::: and then if ya wanna read about how Michelle was instrumental in the purchase of the mansion in question RE: Rezko..in the historical district....Look up Landmark Commissions and Michelle Obama... there is plenty there...Questions for Barack Obam a are piling up!

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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:26 AM
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32. I sure would like to know what Penny Pritzker's credit score is...
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:27 AM by Texas Explorer
Also, this post has been up for awhile now and no one has responded. Why is that?




Disclaimer: I am an Obama supporter...at least for now.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:51 PM
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36. maybe nobody could read what "ignored" wrote
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:15 AM
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17. It was all for show! Hillary can fake any emotion!
She is corrupt to the core!
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:29 PM
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80. Except Cyborg
that is actually natural for her.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:59 AM
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27. DOG AND PONY SHOW. She opposed it for show AFTER public backlash became apparent.
Same thing she and Schumer did with Alito filibuster.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:33 AM
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84. What the fuck is wrong with you, MF? It's posted entirely in caps.
IT MUST BE TRUE!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:59 AM
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2. K&R
:kick:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 04:28 PM
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85. Kick 2.0!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:59 AM
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3. Clintons need to align themselve with the principles of the Democratic Party- Open Government
being a large part of what we stand for

Release your tax returns for the last several years, Clintons.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:53 PM
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53. I am very excited about Sen. Obama's plan for open government
Voting for Sen. Clinton would be a vote for continued Clinton secrecy, which they excelled at during Bill Clinton's time in the White House.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:25 PM
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87. Indeed Obama is a small step in the right direction
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 06:26 PM by Zachstar
However it is US that makes the change in the end. There is MUCH work to be done to get this .gov cleaned up. We need to be involved! We need to understand the process and make our voices heard when wrongs are committed.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:23 PM
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93. It is time to see those tax returns!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:00 AM
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4. Bought and paid for...Two Rich Prostitutes for President
:thumbsup:
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youknowmenotdlc Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:03 AM
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10. Look on the bright side
The Pukes love the Saudis too so it's not likely to be a big GE issue.

LOL
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:58 PM
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49. Are you talking about Marc RICH and his wife?
If not, it sure would apply here.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:02 AM
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8. How much more proof do we need that the Clintons are in this
to win it for their own selfish reasons? They're a tag team; what's the prize? Whoever has the most toys, money, influence, etc., wins, and if that means trampling Dems and our party, so be it.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:04 AM
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11. Even if it means opening the door wide to nukes coming in on ships to 22 US cities
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:09 AM
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14. Someone start a thread on how Bill Clinton has used his WH days to enrich himself as lobbyist
aren't we against politicians and military generals turning around after their careers and using the public trust for their own selfish gain?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:09 AM
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13. K/R.
:kick:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:16 AM
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18. oh my god
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:35 PM
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63. oh my god-- i did`t know you were back!
been a long time since i`ve read your posts...welcome back i hope you stay awhile!
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think4yourself Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:30 AM
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19. What ELSE is in those tax returns?
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:26 PM
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38. They are saying they will release 2007 ONLY, not 2000-2006!
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inf8 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:32 PM
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42. Any accountant can play wonderful games in such a scenario
The accountant can leave out information then in a few months file an amended return. Or simply carry over losses from a previous year, skipping 2007. The request for disclosure shouldn't be for 2007 alone, how about 2000-2007 when she didn't want all the scrutiny.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:41 AM
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20. Corrupt liars.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:44 AM
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21. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:48 PM
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72. Kick 2.0!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:46 AM
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22. Part. Of. The. Ca. Bal.
Best friends with mcCain. In bed with Dubai. Covering up for 9/11 commission. Ignoring the oil deals in Iraq. Voting for the war.

Will somebody please tell me why this woman is considered a democrat?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:49 AM
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24. Let's not forget not signing the anti-TORTURE pledge or voting with Liberman on IRAN
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:33 AM
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33. Exactly. What's liberal about her? I seriously want to know.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:48 AM
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23. The second article is stunning--they're playing good cop/bad cop.
Bill arranges the deal while both trash it publicly. WTF? I guess the Monster wanted to go on record as publicly opposing it, all while hoping the deal would succeed anyway. Kind of like when she voted for that bankruptcy bill, but "secretly" hoped it wouldn't pass. Why is this person or her husband entitled to go anywhere near the WH again? Haven't they done enough?
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:55 AM
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25. I haven't really seen much about this in the MSM
This is big news --- why isn't it being talked about by Tweety and crew?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:08 AM
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29. Dubai provides the news networks with LUXURY HEADQUARTERS there. They've been set up as the Capitol
of Global Fascism and the fascist owners of the newsmedia are well aware of this.

This same Dubai money started BCCI. It is why BCCI has become a no-no story for any major news group.

The SAME AGENDA being pushed through BCCI goes strong today - they will do anything, say anything, pay anything to establish the Global Fascist Agenda as the dominant ruling philosophy in this world - The New World Order. Poppy Bush used those terms to describe their intentions after the First Gulf War. But for the unraveling of BCCI by a few honest Democrats, that New World Order had to wait it out with some help and protection from a few powerful Democrats willing to side with their agenda - the Clintons and their loyalists were groomed for that very duty by Jackson Stephens.

And we are living with the results.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:55 AM
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26. k, r, & b.
Expose the Clintons!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:07 PM
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51. K, R, and bookmarked as well!
Expose Clinton before it is exposed in the GE and causes a Republican to become President!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:59 AM
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28. We in New Orleans are PISSED about this!
I blame ayrab-terrist-lovin' Bushler&Co for this! :mad:



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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:08 AM
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30. please sign this petition to have Hillary disclose her taxes
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:38 PM
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35. thanks
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:18 AM
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81. With all the bruha....
Signing this petition ...scares me.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:18 AM
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31. Headline is misleading... How exactly did Hillary help Dubai out in this situation?
450,000 is chump change for the UAE. For a complete list of Bill's speeches, click here: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2007/clinton-speeches/list/

Dubai is one tiny part of his speech list. For example, the Jewish National Fund (no tinfoil hats here, I only mention this group because it just before the first Dubai group, STARS.. Today, it does very good work rehabilitating the environment in Israel) shelled-out more than for 3 separate speeches by Bill. The speeches in Dubai were for very different and distinct events.

And while I KNOW the OP would like to spin the UAE/EVIL/TERRORIST port meme, I happen to know for a fact Shk's Maktoum and Khalifa are admirers of President Clinton. They love the guy here. THEY ALSO LOVE DEMOCRATS and (as a general rule) DETEST the BUSHES... SHALL I REPEAT THAT? Detest the Bushes.


Oh, and bottom line: Hillary did not support the ports deal so stop insinuating it!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:34 AM
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34. She did not oppose it before it was exposed in the press
SHE SAID NOTHING - EVEN AFTER I WAS AWARE OF IT AND LOU DOBBS REPORTED ON IT!

THEN WHEN IT BLEW UP, SHE WAS ALL AGAINST IT...
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 01:34 PM
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39. The OP was suggesting Quid Pro Quo concerning Hillary
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 01:40 PM by JCMach1
That is an absolute stretch...


But yes, Bill took money from lots of people as do lots of ex-presidents! That's why I posted the list... It's quit extensive. And yes, quite probably a fine tooth comb would reveal more probable connections to legislation than this one.

Go for it if you like...
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:01 PM
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74. The whole point of the OP makes no sense
Hillary said she didn't know Bill gave Dubai advice. She never said she didn't know Bill received money from Dubai. The OP uses Hillary knowing money was received to prove she knew Bill gave advice. That doesn't add up. Its very possible she knew about the money but not the advice.

Probably more is being made of Bill agreeing to give some advice than is actually there. Its possible to give an opponent advice, especially when the relationship was beneficial on other matters.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:54 PM
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37. Let's see the tax returns now!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:44 PM
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47. This is just one reason they are hiding their tax returns.
There is surely a bunch more stinky stuff in there.

Hillary is hiding the tax retirns from Democratic voters.

She will have to release it if she is the nominee.

Hillary is putting her own ambition over the good of the party and the good of the country.

Sadly, I have concluded this is typical of the Clintons.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:47 PM
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52. Well let us hope that the voters end this Bush/Clinton era and let us move on!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:12 AM
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89. I agree it is TIME to see the tax returns!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:15 PM
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40. Oh, yeah! I remember being absolutely livid about the whole deal, and then hearing Hillary
say she "wasn't aware" of Bill's involvement.

Wow - I had forgotten all about that. DAMN!!
Those tax returns need to come out NOW, before another person casts a single vote for the Clintons of Dubai.

Thanks for reminding me of another great reason why I don't trust either one of them.:scared:
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:40 PM
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43. The Clintons of Dubai! LOL
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:16 PM
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41. It's great for Dubai that they can fund the campaign of a U.S. presidential candidate
It's sort of like a twofer.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:57 PM
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48. Not to mention what they've done for Michael Jackson!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:41 PM
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45. Probably why they don't want to release tax records, ya think?
:shrug:

Hillary & Bill = OUTSOURCED AMERICA.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 03:43 PM
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46. I'd have a problem with this except that the Dubai Ports controversy was just xenophobia
The rest of the civilized world doesn't have laws like Exon-Florio.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:11 PM
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55. Xenophobia is snatching people of the wrong ethnic background off the street
--and sending them off to be tortured. Not wanting to deal with countries that are major hubs of terrorist financing is not.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 04:03 PM
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50. "Iran is building a bomb through Dubai"....

that summarizes much of the concern about Dubai right there, and is precisely why we should be very concerned about foreign influence buying out Congress, a la the Sibel Edmonds case. I wonder if Senator Clinton could be behind Door Number 1?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:12 PM
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56. McCain was a big fan of the Dubai deal also
Bush loyalist even though most other Repubs jumped ship over the deal.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:14 PM
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57. Hillary Clinton helped stop the deal.
She is running for President - not Bill.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:36 PM
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64. her campaign is being financed by Bill's money. And he's campaigning for her
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:16 PM
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58. The Clintons = Political whores
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:18 PM
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59. Kick!
:kick:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:26 PM
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60. OMG!! THIS IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF MSNBC, USATODAY, CNN.COM, ABCNEWS ETC!! CHELSEA IS IN JAIL TOO!!
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 05:38 PM by mtnsnake
I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF BOTH CLINTONS ARE LOCKED AWAY FOR LIFE BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT!!!
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:31 PM
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61. K & R
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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:33 PM
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62. Article: Clinton aides had hand in Dubai deal - 2006
Not the same thing, but provides some more background.

Clinton aides had hand in Dubai deal
Clinton advisers' outside lobbying work for firm to take over defense plants accents their awkward position

BY GLENN THRUSH | Newsday Washington Bureau
September 14, 2006


WASHINGTON - In the spring, when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was denouncing the Dubai Ports World deal, a consulting firm run by her top advisers was quietly lobbying for a Dubai takeover of two U.S. defense plants, Newsday has learned...

The contract was signed April 13, only a month after the ports deal went down in flames over concerns the emirate was a breeding ground for some of the Sept. 11 hijackers.

It also came on the heels of columnist Robert Novak's report that Bill Clinton unsuccessfully urged Dubai officials to hire Glover partner Lockhart as their spokesman. A Clinton spokesman didn't deny the account...

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usclin144890633sep14,0,4200190.story?coll=ny-leadnationalnews-headlines
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:45 PM
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65. Thanks
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tachyon Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:46 PM
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66. Could you possibly scream just a little bit LOUDER?????????
:eyes:
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:08 PM
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67. kick
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:14 PM
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68. $450? You gotta be kidding... That's Peanuts compared to the Spawn of Ken Lay!
It's so minute it doesn't even hit "Forbes 100!" :shrug:
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:17 PM
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69. I need not read the entire piece. Just ask, Was it illegal? I know
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:18 PM by BenDavid
the answer. NO! Just some obama person that has more time on their hands to find anything and post it here on the du.....ya man is going down and lose, so get used to it....
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:20 PM
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77. Just because an action is legal doesn't mean it's not unethical. Laws are ethically arbitrary. (nt)
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:23 PM
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70. Hey those teevee attack ads ain't free.
Can the Clintons help it if they have friends in the oil biz?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:43 PM
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71. kick
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:47 PM
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73. kick
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:04 PM
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75. KENN STARRR COULDENT PROOVE THIS INN 1997!!11
Yet more slime just under the floorboards waiting to flood the room...

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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:24 PM
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78. LOL!!!
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:24 PM by alteredstate
Off-topic, but I met an Obama volunteer from Madison when I was in Houston for last week's primary/caucuses. She said she's been to the Obama table at the Madison Farmer's Market, and she's met you!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:08 PM
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76. Does make you wonder about oil prices.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:25 PM
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79. Yawn--it's getting late in the day for Reko paybacks- bed time-yawn
what with DLST and all....boring reading always makes me sleepy.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 02:37 AM
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82. Isn't this the way bush*cheney do national security/foreign policy?
I think the country is in the mood for change.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:17 AM
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83. I hoe so
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:48 PM
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86. kick (nt)
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:34 PM
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88. kick
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:15 AM
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90. Oh get real -- stop lying
She has ALWAYS been against that deal, and Bill Clinton has never said he was in favor of it. Never. Not once. Why do Obama supporters have to lie so much if their guy is someone we should vote for?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:18 AM
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91. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET YOU TO NOT SCREAM AT US?
Please stop with the all caps crap. I'm on your side but you need to stop with the caps.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:21 AM
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92. What. A. Fucking. Dumb. Ass. Post.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:25 PM
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94. Has Bill been removed from the campaign yet?
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