If it ended this nonsense right now, would Obama supporters accept Clinton as VP

[debbierlus]

And, would Hillary supporters bend to the reality of Obama leading in a real way and support her in the VP spot.

[jwirr]

1. While I would accept her as VP I don't think that would be a help in

winning in November.

[debbierlus]

3. The only reason I think it would help is because it would unite them AGAINST McCain

Instead of them fighting against each other....

Months of this could do a lot of damage...that is the only reason I think it would be a good idea, imho.

[jwirr]

11. There I agree with you. I am getting angrier every day as I watch.

[Yupster]

26. agree jwirr

Obama would do better with a different woman as VP other than Hillary.

Who would want to be running for President with Hillary making news every day on the campaign trail, and even worse, having to explain what the VP's spouse said about each issue that comes up.

[debbierlus]

2. Try to keep this kicked, I am interested in seeing where we are at in the progressive community

On a possible unity ticket & the feasibility of such a ticket....

[chyjo]

4. I would accept it

I would not understand the selection though.

[elocs]

5. I don't see how Clinton would help Obama. Someone else could help more.

I also cannot see Clinton playing second fiddle to Obama.

[Ravy]

9. She could help by bringing her support along.

The more divided the Democrats, the more either needs the other on the ticket. I think this is Hillary's game plan right now. Why worry about someone to "help in the west" in the general election when you need bolstering in the core of your party. This goes for either candidate.

[Yael]

6. She is too toxic

[earthlover]

14. Right. Normally, offering a unity ticket would unite the ticket.. Hillary has made it difficult

She has gone way beyond saying she is a better nominee. She has trashed Obama, even suggesting that McCain is better. I don't see how you can take THAT into a ticket and make any sense. McCain would be able to play the VP candidate's tapes against Obama in the general, and it would be embarrassing.

I don't think either that Hillary has any plan to even consider Obama as a VP, should she get the smoke filled rooms to nominate her, which is her only chance. She is just trying to sucker voters into voting for her thinking they will get both. They won't and she knows it, but she sees an advantage in playing the voters this way. She would never have said what she did about Obama if she had any incling to be VP or to have Obama VP. It is just a manipulative game she is using.

Even if she used the unity ticket as a means of persuading SDs to vote for her, she STILL would find a way to throw Obama under the bus.

She is all about calculating treachery.

[Cha]

45. Hell NO...hilary and her little scortched earth

policy has made it impossible for anything as unconscionable as that.

[CubFan7125]

7. Nonsense

I just need clarification on this. Is it the democratic process that is nonsense or just the fact that your "Golden Boy" Obama might lose.

[WolverineDG]

8. I once thought so, but now

no.

dg

[earthlover]

16. I did too...actually twice! But then she said something else to ruin it.

[WolverineDG]

21. I was offended when she made fun of Obama supporters

& I thought that must be how she feels about those of us who have worked hard for 8 years to keep the Democratic party alive & especially those who worked really hard to score all those wins in 2006. She must not want my help, then, so nuts to her.

dg

[IDemo]

10. Nope

You do not reward the nonsensical negativity of a competing candidate by awarding them with anything, much less a position on the ticket.

To paraphrase George Carlin: They call it the Dream Ticket, because to believe it, you have to be asleep.

[lapfog_1]

12. Why should a Democratic nominee for President pick someone

from outside the party?

[BumRushDaShow]

13. She is poison. n/t

[Metta]

15. She's a self serving traitor to the Dems.

Praising John McSame over BO,shameless pandering. As someone in another GD thread says, she started a civil war and now claims to be the victim. Plus, her policies are way too far to the right.

[IndianaGreen]

17. I wouldn't like it. I would drink a few beers that night, but I would accepted it

if only because I don't want McCain as President and Democrats must unite before Denver.

[earthlover]

19. I really don't want McCain in. And I want the Dems to win Congress

Hillary does scare me on several levels though. I believe she has a need to look "tough" and for that reason I am not convinced she would be less likely to go to war than McCain. She has some convincing here to do to get me comfortable with her finger on the nuclear football.

Likewise, she has to do some convincing that she will actually get things done as president. The secretive way she tried to get her health care package through in the 90s failed miserably. I see her history as being one of caving in to the Republicans instead of using diplomacy to bring them on board with our programs. I need some reassurance that things really will be better under Hillary, not just unsuccessful posturing with more war between Reps and Dems and not getting anything done.

The Supreme Court is the last refuge I guess. Even here it would seem common sensical to trust Hillary's picks. Again, she needs to do some reassuring. Will she say that she will protect choice or will she be wishy=washy on that issue during the campaign? If she is running for reelection from day one, would she have the courage to nominate a moderate to liberal Supreme Court justice, or would she just appease the Republicans there too, afraid of being hurt in her reelection campaign?

The problem I have with Hillary is that I don't really think I can trust her. I want to beleive she would be different from McCain. And I probably would support her. But it is not just about me. SHE has to do some reassuring too! SHE has to show me that she really can make a difference. I would probably vote for her, but she cannot take my vote for granted and she shouldn't.

[GarbagemanLB]

18. She only hurts his chances.

[Jamastiene]

20. Obama needs to reign in his violent thugs. No way Clinton should play second fiddle to him.

Hillary should not tarnish her name or be associated with that man. At this point, he is not a Democrat to me at all. He seems to incite too much talk of rioting for my taste. He's not getting my vote at all now.

[WolverineDG]

22. Violent thugs?

Got proof of that?

dg

[Jamastiene]

34. Yeah, y'all plan on killing a US Senator.

[WolverineDG]

46. Generalize much?

One poster does not make a "y'all."
Buh bye. I've got no time for Hillary DQs.

dg

[annie1]

23. They're getting pretty close. The hate they spew is sickening. and scary...

Mob mentality.

[DevonRex]

29. What on earth are you talking about?

Violent thugs? Geez.

[Jamastiene]

33. A former First lady's life was threatened on here this morning.

with threats of beheading her in Denver. I don't take that kind of talk lightly. There is a limit to how far supporters should go. That was OVER The Line. As far as I am concerned, The Line has been crossed. I want nothing to do with Obama supporters until some of you reign in the violent thugs.

[OzarkDem]

39. Agree

[Carolina]

53. pure projection!

HRC is the mama monster with rogues and thugs like Penn and Wolfson

[blm]

59. Clintons TARNISHED THEIR NAME when they went to bed with Jackson Stephens and BushInc.

They HAVE NO GOOD NAME. They only have GULLIBLE supporters who think Clintons and Bushes are 'just good friends'.

[seabeyond]

24. i really dont feel obama could trust her not to be destructive to his term

sorry. but what i have seen of hillary, her comment about kerry joke and he is on her side and other snips at dems to present herself in a better image, .... no, i would not trust her with my back or right next to me.

i wouldnt hire her.

[featherman]

25. Clinton hurts the ticket with our projected demographic

and muddies the message. I just don't see this. The Clinton faction will unite behind the nominee and work to get the ticket elected. I have no doubt.

[Barack_America]

27. Nah. I'm content to let it go on and watch her destroy her future with the Democratic Party.

n/t

[DevonRex]

28. No way.

He doesn't need her. And her high negatives with independents and liberal republicans would cancel out Obama's ability to bring them on board in the GE. And once again the Clintons would be the focus of the election instead of issues. She's toxic, Bill's toxic. I say this as a former supporter of Bill. Neither Clinton says anything by mistake and neither do their political operatives. All of the negative comments and race baiting and religion baiting would be front and center in the GE and not just because we can expect that from the republicans but because Hillary heself has used those tactics. Obama cannot choose a running mate who has stated over and over again that he's not ready, that he hasn't crossed the Commander in Chief threshold, that all he has is a speech -- or that he's not a Muslim, as far as Hillary knows.

And for hte record, I was very sorry not to be able to support Hillary. I had been a strong Clinton (both Bill & Hill) supporter. But her Iraq vote was the deciding factor, coupled with her unwillingness to apologize for that vote. She could have been such a strong voice against that war. Once it began, she could have been such a strong voice to bring it to an end. Millions and millions of Americans were thirsting for a strong democratic leader to speak out. It could have been her. A senator from New York carries a lot of clout. Bill and Hillary had the means, through their vast political machine and the good will of democrats, to make a difference in a way that nobody else could have. They were silent. If anyone thinks I am happy about this, you're dead wrong. My disappointment was and is huge.

In short, it's not just a tactical thing for me to say no to Hillary on the ticket. It's about principle.
Jennifer in Colorado

[AZBlue]

30. Not just no, HELL NO.

[HeraldSquare212]

31. She'd be a drag on the ticket in the general election.

[Vinca]

32. I honestly think Hillary needs Barack more than Barack needs Hillary. nt

[AtomicKitten]

35. Clinton is the antithesis of Obama's platform of change so I say HELL NO.

And he should not be brow-beaten into it.

[Johnny__Motown]

36. McCain's VP, sure. then I can vote against both of them,. Other than that... no way

[Crunchy Frog]

37. Hillary simply does not bring anything to an Obama ticket.

She would be nothing but a liability in the general.

[TBF]

38. No, the Clintons need to move on ...

They had their time in Washington and Bill is remembered in a positive fashion mostly, as he was a very effective president in terms of keeping us safe and economically secure. But there were so many scandals and in the end he was impeached. Obama isn't talking about any of that (yet), but McCain will not be so good. He will go after Hillary if she is in either spot, and he has plenty of ammunition.

Barack needs to find a moderate white male, preferably with military experience (or strong foreign policy experience) to keep the swing votes. Bush has a 19% approval rating & this is the time for democrats to take back the White House. I like Richardson as a VP selection, but there are no doubt many others who would fit the bill.

Hillary needs to retire and write her memoirs. I know she really, really wants this and she is really, really smart. But sometimes those things aren't enough.

[scheming daemons]

40. I'd accept it... but I wouldn't like it....

For one...

I think it is a GE killer... but even if he ends up winning.... I think it kills what his whole message is about.... a change in the culture of Washington.

But if she is his VP.... he better watch his back.... because Bill and Hill aren't the types to sit back and play second and third fiddle.

[thoughtcrime1984]

41. Other

I really dislike her and I believe her to be a possible taint on Obama's transparency in gov't and change message. However, for the sake of the Party winning this election, I might be able to accept it. She still has a lot of supporters, and they may be energized enough to actually help with the campaign, although many won't. If she is on the ticket, I would not be quite as worried that she would try to sabotage Obama's chances, as she would stand to gain much if he won the election. So, I am not high on the idea at all, but if it ended this nasty campaign she is running immediately, then I might be semi-OK with it.

[MadBadger]

42. I want her as far away from the ticket as possible.

[damndude]

43. 3 weeks ago

i would have been happy to have that happen. but not after these passed several days. in the kindest words she has shown herself to be a hypocritical, petulant, dishonest, fear mongering, opportunist.
i would rather see obama-biden, obama-edwards, obama-dodd than obama -clinton

[grantcart]

44. If that was the choice then I would rather continue to Puerto Rico

I don't think it is helpful for Hillary to be further humiliated but if she is up to it - I have no problem with it.

Her attacks on him serve a useful purpose it gets the nonsense out of the way. People will hear it and move on.

[Connie_Corleone]

47. Why should Obama be saddled with Hillary's baggage?

She's got too many scandals-in-waiting. Obama's trying to win the presidency. Why risk it by putting Hillary on the ticket?

[DemVet]

48. Where is the option saying Obama shouldn't be on the ticket? Hmmm?

[MonkeyFunk]

49. These results show

that DU is nothing at all like the real world.

[mmonk]

50. I'm willing to say yes.

I'm frankly tired of all this.

[Not the Only One]

51. We can do better and we don't need her

Hillary as VP is a stupid idea. It would be rewarding her for conducting her campaign in such a disgusting fashion.

[Skidmore]

52. There was a time I seriously considered that as a choice, but no longer.

Hillary is no longer trustworthy in my mind because she has gone out of her way not just to campaign against Obama but to totally destroy a fellow Democrat. My best choice for a VP for Obama from the candidates is Edwards or Richardson.

[lse7581011]

56. Me Too!

but not any more!

[ellisonz]

54. No.

[rucky]

55. These results are f-ed up, man.

This place is toxic.

[dysfunctional press]

57. MY PREDICTION-- "IF" hillary ends up as the vpotus candidate under Obama-

i'm of the opinion that there will be an attempt made to assassinate Barack- and whether or not it's successful, the gop/media will create a HUGH "whisper campaign" that the Clintons are behind the plot.

[sendero]

58. I'm going to vote Dem in November..

.... no matter what. That said, I'd be happiest without HRC anywhere on the ticket.

[LWolf]

60. The only thing worse

than a Clinton or Obama nomination is putting them on the ticket together.

:puke:

[Alter Ego]

61. No.

It would undercut Obama's whole campaign message if he brought her on board.

Bring in Kathleen Sebelius--popular Democratic governor from a red state, and able to sway a lot of Midwest voters.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

62. No, but I'd take her as majority leader.

[Yossariant]

63. This Clinton supporter will not accept Obama on the ticket at all.

He is too much baggage for Florida and Ohio.

The Democrats cannot win with him on the ticket.