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teleharmonium Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:21 PM
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adjust the NOMINATION CLINCH #
Along the lines of Khaotic's post (great minds...), I was just playing around with an idea and ran some numbers on it and would like to go ahead and air it in public here.

The party can adopt new rules at the convention and immediately enact them at the convention. With this in mind, the idea is to adjust the clinch number downward to account for the FL and MI delegates that have been excluded. (If FL gets counted or partially counted, or one or both of them have some kind of a do over, the math or the need for this altogether would change.)

Required to clinch nomination under current rules - 2025, a simple majority of the 4048 total delgates

Florida delegates - 211
Michigan delegates - 156

revised total # : 4048 -211 -156 = 3681

revised clinch # is 3681/2 rounded up = 1841

Based on that modest and perfectly sensible procedural change, Obama needs as of now 1841-1588=253 delegates to clinch while Clinton needs 1841 - 1465=376 to clinch, going by the current delegate totals at realclearpolitics.com.

There are at this time 599 pledged delegates to be allocated from future contests and 795 total superdelegates -210 already declared for Obama and -242 already declared for Clinton = 343 superdelegates still up for grabs (again going by the superdelegate count from rcp). There is wobble in the superdelegate count of course since they can change their minds, as technically some of the pledged delegates can as well if I'm not mistaken.

The real selling point is that it most likely heads off the possibility of a divisive convention and allows us to change the subject from the superdelegates, which the media and Republicans are beating us up with on a daily basis out of a perception, however well or poorly justified, that they are "non democratic" or at least have the possiblity of going against the expressed will of the voters. It may even be possible to "pre approve" this procedural change by running it by enough party members and securing a commitment to introduce such a proposal and find out who would support it at the convention, which gives us back the possibility of clarity and clear legitimacy for one of the candidates before the convention.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 02:33 PM
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1. This was done to death yesterday..
2025 IS the number needed WITHOUT FL and MI. 2208 is the number needed with FL and MI.

It's already "in there" (like the spaghetti sauce).
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