Hillary Clinton did not endorse John McCain...

[Maddy McCall]

She is not a monster or a cheater.

She's not a traitor and she isn't destroying the Democratic party.

And your life will go on after she receives the Democratic nomination.

[AtomicKitten]

1. She IS a monster and she DID endorse McCain - your attempt at PsyOp notwithstanding.

[MonkeyFunk]

4. OH yeah?

Well Obama's a doody-head! Your super-double-secret-reacharound-psyops don't fool me!

[tekisui]

12. Reacharound-psyops!

:rofl:

That one got me!

[Maddy McCall]

13. .....

:spray:

:rofl:

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[greguganus]

48. Nice pic of Hillary in your post. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

52. Believe it or not

I think that actually elevates the level of debate here.

[rodeodance]

29. and OBAMA ENDORSED RONNIE REAGAN!!

[DemGa]

37. Obama doesn't like it when you call Hillary a monster

[Raven]

2. Hey Maddy! And so will yours if she doesn't! :-)

[jalynn]

16. Good Post

I agree, she did not endorse McCain. Only stated a fact. Stating fact does not make an endorsement. The facts are, Obama has not served a full term in the US Senate, was not in the senate to vote for or against the Iraq war but HAS voted to FUND the war

[Maddy McCall]

19. Well, yeah...I've never seen an Obama nomination as the end of the world, though.

[Raven]

26. God! I hate that frog or toad or whatever it is! Go brush its teeth, will ya? n/t

[Maddy McCall]

27. It's there for people who have nothing else to say to have a target to criticize.

He's your little scapegoat. Have fun with him. :rofl:

[Emit]

47. In all honesty, Maddy McCall

I love your frog and, prior to the mess in GD: P, was always fascinated by it. Could be that I'm partial because we have a small pond with frogs in our backyard -- heard the first one last night as a matter of fact -- a sure sign that spring is on the way here in the Great Basin.

Consider this an olive branch, Maddy. I hate the vitriol on DU GD: P that came with this primary and thought you might like to know that I am outnumbered in my own household:

Both of my little ones are for Clinton:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4681620

As is my teenager. She said to me, rather forlornly, the other night, "If Hillary loses, consider that me ... I can relate ... " because she recently lost a well-fought battle in her own primary run for Sr. Class President:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2906635

She also thinks it's Hillary's turn and that Obama doesn't have the experience yet, and should be Hillary's VP instead of POTUS. She says her high school has cult-like groups of Obama supporters who freak her out. Her best friend's dad is a lobbyist, and doesn't like Obama, so many of her friends, bright young women, are HRC supporters and proud of it. Sometimes she even reads DU, and rolls her eyes at my posts.

We've had some lively discussions, to say the least, and I'm encouraging her to go out for the debate team next year. ;)

Even my own mother is suspicious of Obama, and I feel she is experiencing some weird teevee brain rot that might very well be bringing out some form of latent racism in her, which, I swear I thought I would never encounter with my mom:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4676093

The other night she was over for dinner and said that they had been showing a lot of coverage of Obama's church's minister and his relationship to Farrakhan, and she's beginning to think that the church is equivalent to a black 'white supremacist group.' She's shocked because her brother, the most prejudiced sibling of hers (her own words, not mine --they all grew up in the deep south) is for Obama and she thinks he's just more sexist than racist. What topped it off, however, if that ain't enough, was her reference to the rumor that Obama is the anti-Christ, something one of her older siblings who still lives down south has been feeding her -- something about Mabus or Obamabush. :crazy: Never in a million years would I have ever thought my mother would be discussing such matters in relation to politics. I mean, the anti-Christ, for heaven's sake?

On the flip side, all my close Republican relatives, including my SO are for Obama. I've mentioned those accounts before, whether you believed me or not, it is true.


Yeah, life is interesting in our household this primary election season. :hi:

edit typo

[walldude]

35. The fact that she stated said that McCain was more qualified

than Obama to be president. Tell me, you don't think there was any better way to attack Obama? That comment threw many people into Obama's camp, myself included. Most left wing people who in the past we considered "friends" to DU have thrown in with Obama, most people have come out against what she said, and the best HIllary's supporters can do is claim that we are all cult members, we are all sheep being led, we are all brainwashed by this cult of personality. Whatever. Isn't it more likely that all these "former" free thinkers are actually still free thinkers and Hillary supporters are just angry because they chose to back Obama?


I'll vote for Hillary if she wins the nom. But what she did was about as low as you can get. And had Obama made the same claim, Hillary's supporters would be grinding him down right now, and rightfully so.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. Are you also predicting a Hillary win in Mississippi?

[Joe the Revelator]

5. A bit worried about her endorsement, huh?

I would be to. It's going to really hurt her chances to hold on to her senate seat.

[rodeodance]

32. Obama endorsed Reagan

[Joe the Revelator]

38. You are such a silly little puppy...

Reagan is dead, is not running in this election, and Obama never said that he would make a better President than Hillary. Keep reaching dopey.

[Nitrogenica]

6. She is a negative campaigner. Save it for McLame, please.

[rodeodance]

36. He started it with his REpug Harry and Louise ad. Lied about nafta, racialized the

primary--the list goes on

[againes654]

7. She sided herself with the repuke

If someone on this forum made a similar statement, they would be banned, because that is bad behavior from a Democrat. She was wrong no matter how you spin it.

[zabet]

8. Life will go on for most of the Obama supporters but,

I fear there are some like this that
there is no hope for. ;)

[Maddy McCall]

10. LOL

[Johnny__Motown]

9. Is this opposite day? she won't win, she is a cheater and a monster (depending on definition)

But yes, our lives will go on after she loses. The proof of this is that she has already lost and our lives go on.

[JTFrog]

44. Everyday is Opposite Day in HillaryWorld.

In HillaryWorld, Hillary is the Goddess of Peace and cluster bombs are considered little white doves offered to comfort children after Hillary votes to use force against their sovereign nation.

It's cool to live in HillaryWorld and membership includes a lifetime of benefits all for the unbelievably low price of $YourSoul*.

If you buy into it now, HillaryWorld will throw in a free tour through the Garden of Anti-Hope and Terror where you can learn about Hillary's plight to single handedly stomp out budding hope all across the nation.

*(Some hidden fees and restrictions may apply. Membership rules may be changed in the event that they aren't benefiting Hillary.)

[saltpoint]

11. Mine will. Very likely, anyway.

But here are her words:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09kristof.html?th&emc=th

and straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4JnWQsxKw


A very poor and ill-advised choice of words, IMO.

[againes654]

20. Good article

Thank you

[Upton]

14. You're right on only one thing

my life will go on. Because she did, in essence, endorse McCain and she is, without a doubt, a monster. The cheating is obvious as she is trying to steal the nomination by overturning the will of the people. What amazes me is, so many of her supporters, professed Democrats all, just don't care.

[Quixote1818]

15. And to think I use to like her. After last week I have so much anger for her

She is acting just like George Bush and I can't stand seeing one of our own act that way.

[Maddy McCall]

Once she enacts health care reform, you can get counseling to deal with that anger.

[Quixote1818]

23. Neither her plan or Obama's plan are worth a shit. Give me a break. nt

[40ozDonkey]

25. Ha!

Your political opponents need counseling, lol.

Is this the Democratic version of "Bush Derangement Syndrome"?
How cute.

Enter phase three of Clinton's supporters:

Denial: The initial stage: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why don't they hate Obama as much as I do?"
Bargaining: "Just let her get to Denver, then we'll see!"
Depression: "I'm so sad, John McCain's gonna win."
Acceptance: "President Obama."

Sorry your candidate was found floating upside down after Super Tuesday.
Despite all attempts to prove otherwise, it's nobodys fault but her own.

[saltpoint]

31. Health care is the single most spectacular failure for HClinton.

Eight years went by in the 90s on that issue. She was put in charge.

And she dropped the ball.

[rodeodance]

34. Hillary's health plan will also pay for de-programming you will need.

[Quixote1818]

49. I am not the one infatuated with Hillary who posts 1,000 times a day

who is in the Hillary cult. My candidate was John Edwards with Hillary being my last choice. Too bad only Kucinich had a health plan worth a shit. You could have used it.

[stop the bleeding]

17. better questions is: How

do we unify the party no matter who the nominee is?

We can squabble all we want but we better get our shit together for the GE because O suporters need HRC supporters and vice versa in order for the DEM party to win.

No one has been able to answer this with a magic bullet answer.

edit: typo(s)

second edit: I expect no response

[againes654]

28. Yes, that is it

You hit the nail on the head!!!

[stop the bleeding]

33. I don't know why I even bother - it doesn't matter if we win the GE -people don't care

we have lost sight of the prize just so we can prove our points and beat the other side into submission, the side that the victor is gonna need to secure the GE.


God I feel like I am living a bad dream all over again.

[againes654]

39. I know, I just don't get it.

We are going to beat each other into nothing, and the McCain will waltz into the WH. We are fighting the repukes fight for them. Why, why why, do we keep making things so effing easy for the repukes.

[kid a]

18. April Fools Day is still over three weeks away...sheesh...

[leftofthedial]

21. and we're not in Kansas anymore

and there's no place like home! there's no place like home! there's no place like home!

[TwilightGardener]

22. Oh, the last twisted attempts to salvage your image of the Monster as a good person.

LOL! I am enjoying your convulsions of self-delusion.

[NewHampster]

24. Maddy Maddy Maddy

Why do you bother? Oh wait I know. It's so much fun to watch the steam come out of their ears as they try to be positive and loving in the Obama way.

Thanks for the post, the fun is just a byproduct.

[rodeodance]

30. hear hera!!---REC

[THUNDER HANDS]

40. no she's not, she just plays one on tv

a monsterish, traitorical endorser of McCain whose destroying the patry and ruining my life.

;)

[Chasing Dreams]

41. Tell Me, Why isn't Hillary campaigning AGAINST McCain?

All Democrats should be attacking his flip-flops on taxes, almost joining Kerry as VP then supporting Bush (another flip-flop), lobbyists running his office and campaign, temper tantrums, and most importantly whether he is fit to be President.

I believe John McCain is fucking dangerous. Don't you?!

Why then, would anybody in good conscience try to win the Democratic nomination say anything that can be construed as praise for McCain?

Hillary will do anything to win, including making it impossible for Obama if he is the nominee to win the GE. Her strategy seems to be (1) I am going to take Obama down, (2) You will have to nominate me, or (3) nominate Al Gore or someone else.

[OnionPatch]

43. I'll believe that when I hear her say it.

She needs to come out and say Barak Obama will be a better president in every way than John McCain. Until then, I'll go with what I heard her saying.

[marshall]

45. Which to believe--the Hillary spin or your lying eyes and ears?

The video is out there.

[stray cat]

46. She just said it would be better if McCain were President than Obama

if you didn't want your children to die....

[not_too_L8]

50. hahahahahah.... uncontrollable laughter

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU POSTING THIS SANE SHIT HERE!!!!!!

Shame on you Maddy. Don't stink up this place with your truth and stuff. Be gone!

:)

[davidthegnome]

53. Perhaps she did not directly endorse him... however

This is a pretty good indication of where her feelings lie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCA&feature=related

What do I call that? Beating around the bush (and not the Bush we should be beating around) not to mention contempt and.. well, yes, for the sake of arguement, let us just say that it may possibly be considered favoritism?

Seriously, if that's not an endorsement - or at the very least, a statement that points out that she prefers the Republican candidate to her democratic opponent... I don't see what is. I guess you won't be convinced until she comes right out and says "McCain is better than Obama, and I fully support his campaign."

It's ok to be wrong though. When Obama wins the nomination, I'm sure he'll forgive even her.