To Hillary Supporters: What's going to happen here if Obama wins the nomination?

[Genevieve]

Are you going to stop posting here?

(By the looks of a good number of your posts, it does seem that way).

And, are you going to vote McCain, Nader, or not vote at all?

[murielm99]

1. I will vote for Obama.

Anyone who says otherwise is no Democrat.

The reverse is true, too. Obama supporters should vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination.

[Genevieve]

4. Thank you.

Thank you for your answer. :)

[apocalypsehow]

8. Exactly right - that is my position, too.

n/t.

[Genevieve]

2. .. ... ..

umm,

the silence speaks volumes.

[NastyRiffraff]

7. Maybe you're getting silence because

you asked a stupid and arrogant question. It could be that's what the silence is "speaking."

[Genevieve]

13. Yes, of course you're right -- I'm stupid and arrogant.

:freak:

Thanks for your brilliant answer!

[marshall]

79. Hillary considers it arrogant to presume Obama might win

It is not part of the master plan!

[SoFlaJet]

15. boy talk about a name perfectly describing a poster

it's a legitimate question since the CC WANTS Obama to lose so The Monster can run again in 2012-like we're fucking stupid and can't SEE what their plan is...They are not democrats they are Clintoncrats

[NastyRiffraff]

26. It's about the 1,484th "legitimate question"

Asking the same damn thing, in the same tired way. And your comment is just plain stupid.

[SoFlaJet]

29. then stay out of the thread

it's that simple

[theredpen]

80. It's not an arrogant question

If Clinton wins, I'm voting for her and I'll stop posting about Obama on DU.

It's a simple question and an easy answer.

[golddigger]

69. What silence umm, just got back from reading a thread where Obama supporters

would not vote for Hillary if she is the nominee. That thread spoke volumes. I will vote for the democratic nominee, not like some of the Obama supporters who will take their toys and go home.

[Genevieve]

72. I will vote for the Dem nominee as well --

I will be sad if Obama loses, but I could not imagine not voting Dem (or not voting at all).

( the silence -- i wrote that 'causeI thought the thread was sinking)

Thanks for your answer.

[freesqueeze]

Good Question...

As a liberal independent, i will vote for whomever the Dems nominate.

[Genevieve]

9. Thank you -- I'm

curious, and I'm trying to get a handle on some scenariios.

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[Genevieve]

6. Darling -- I've been here longer than you --

Name change -- happens you know.


Rich indeed, yes, bless you.

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[Genevieve]

16. Of course!

:loveya:

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[Genevieve]

24. No, I am not Cali -- and if you believe that I am

condascending,
please reread the posts i have answered to.

I asked a simple, honest question, and I was bombed with some pretty nasty replies. .. about my arrogance and stupidity, being a troll, etc.

[Lorien]

28. Lol! I wondered the same thing n/t

[BigDaddy44]

61. Condescending tone and arrogant attitude??

Wow, pot, meet kettle. Oh, but I have less than 200 posts, so forgive me for questioning you in any way.....

[Yurovsky]

63. Yep, time to genuflect at the scrumtulescence of HWNN ...

I feel priveleged just to share the same internet, let alone the same politcal web site.

I'm not worthy ... I'm not worthy ... I'm not worthy ... :spank:

[Genevieve]

74. Ugh, NEWBIE!!!!

just kidding.

Hi there.

:hi:

[cali]

64. tut, tut. that's against the rules, dearie.

and your paranoia can be treated. Do try and see a professional. I'm sure you can be helped. At least I hope so.

[Genevieve]

68. All i was thinking was "Wow -

just wow"!

btw, nice to meet you - :hi:

[cali]

73. nice to meet you too, Genevieve

It's tempting to play some games with people that paranoid, but it's awfully cruel so I decided against it. And to answer your question, if Hillary gets the nomination, I'll stopper up my nose, liberally apply vick vaporub and vote for her. Clothes pins are too painful. I'd vote for a ham sandwich if it had a D after its name.

:hi:

[Genevieve]

76. Same here -- nice to meet you too :))

"if Hillary gets the nomination, I'll stopper up my nose, liberally apply vick vaporub and vote for her."

Love your answer.

[Window]

44. LOL!

[Melinda]

34. Number of posts is irrelevant; I've been here far longer than you, and have only 3k+ posts...

as a result of my disability, typing is a long, drawn out and painful process for me.

A members post count is irrelevant to the subject at hand, and your personal attack toward the OP is not only unwarranted, but a violation of DU rules, as are all your other personal attacks toward her on this thread.

I know you are better than this, as I have read many of your posts over the years. You not only do the OP and yourself a diservice,but the DU community as a whole a huge diservice by acting in such a manner.

The OP's question is valid. If you choose not to answer, then why not choose to not participate as well. I honestly understand ones feelings re ones candidate when said candidate is under attack, but I simply don't get in this case.

FWIW and IMO.

Peace out.

[Horse with no Name]

36. I'm not the one who made it an issue. She is.

How about trying to comprehend what SHE said and my response to what SHE said before chugging the Koolaid, eh?

[Genevieve]

40. Actually -- wasn't this your post that started it?

Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-09-08 04:54 PM
Original message
Someone with 194 posts asking ME with nearly 20,000 posts

what I am going to do. Oh the irony is RICH RICH RICH.
And...pointing out that "judging by the number of posts"....you just can't make this stupid shit up.
Let me tell you something...I worry more about YOU voting for McCain or Nader or not at all if Hillary gets the nod than you should worry about me!
Oh...and KMA.

[Melinda]

41. Check my posts; I'm a JE supporter same as you, and I read her OP

So now you wish to attack me instead of addressing the issue of how irrelevant post totals are?

I read what she said... what exactly about it has you so upset?

[curlyred]

5. Substitute Obama for Clinton...

and your question is just as pertinent. There's so much rhetoric coming out of both sides on DU that it seems like a preschool sandbox most days.

[w13rd0]

10. preschool sandboxes have decidedly more...

...decorum. You do the children a disservice with that comparison.

[CyberPieHole]

12. I won't vote for Obama. I will just not vote for president. n/t

[Genevieve]

17. Thanks for your honesty. eom

[againes654]

30. Why? n/t

[Beacool]

14. I'll gather my toys and go home.

My toys are: my time, my money and my fundraising skills (not every wealthy Democrat supports Obama). Though, I will help out at the local and state level. As for the DNC, they won't get a minute of my time nor a penny of my money.

:shrug:

[SoFlaJet]

20. then you're just not a true democrat

you are a Clintoncrat-hey maybe you should try and convince The Monster to run as an Independant democrat just like Lieberman-I mean why even pretend anymore?

[Genevieve]

21. I have a question for you --

I understand that for either side it will be a tremendous blow when the nominee is picked.
but how will we feel if and when that leads to four more years of Repukes? (Dems not voting?)

[Beacool]

35. I can't vote for a man who I don't think is prepared

nor deserving of the presidency at this point in time. I would have considered him if he had demonstrated the humility to build a resume in the senate and then decided to run. A two year senator with a very average record in both the state and US senates, is not experienced enough to be president. I would only consider voting for the Dem. ticket in November if Hillary is on it too.

[JimGinPA]

38. Sure Looks Like He Was Prepared To Campaign, Unlike His Opponent

:shrug:

[Horse with no Name]

42. His race baiting has been very effective in the demographics

that he expected it to be.
Is that what you are touting as "campaigning"?

[JimGinPA]

48. Just How Did He Trick Bubba To Conflate Jesse Jackson With Obama?

:eyes:

[cali]

65. typical Orwellian hillbot koolaid.

And all of it lies. The Clintons tried to frame Obama as the black candidate when he was doing his utmost to frame himself as a candidate who happened to be black. Hillypoo fucked herself on that one- thankfully. She's losing. And I don't give a rat's ass if the likes of you votes.

[Zhade]

81. Damn straight. SHE'S the race-baiter.

NT!

[Genevieve]

39. ok, thanks for your honest answer.

i am so afraid that mccain is going to pull this off in Nov, as we are so evenly and bitterly divided!

:scared:

[tabasco]

70. I'm quite confident that the ratio

of dumbasses on DU who say they will stay home is much higher than the whole voting population.

Obama will destroy Mcain in the general election.

The fools who stay home can STFU for four years until they decide to participate again.

[Genevieve]

78. I hope you're right!

Thanks :-)

[yourguide]

50. I think you have that all wrong...

it's HRC who tapped all of her supporters with big donations, pac money, and lobbyist donations - 90% of Obama's money come from small donors.

It's the wealthy that support HRC, it's the rest of us that support obama.

[surfermaw]

62. Yourguid...better up date your information

10% of the funds given to Obama come from small donations, 90% of his funds ccome from people giving more than $1,000 dollars.

[cali]

67. That is flat out untrue

it's far closer to the reverse of that, and it's documented. $45,000,000 of the $55,000,000 he raised in Feb came from small donors online. But continue on with the hillbot bullshit.

[candice]

18. I hope to have a conversion to the next Messiah! Yes we can only hope!

[annie1]

22. i'm hoping if he wins he starts talking more about policy, then i'll probably be more into him...

but as of now 'we're gonna heal the world' is really not doing it for me.

[sun zoom spark]

23. I've voted Dem since 1968. I'll vote for the Democratic nominee.

Now not to be rude, I hope the Obama partisans will vote for HRC if she's the nominee.

We need everyone to vote for the party, not the candidate.

Here's an alternate question: Will Obama run an alternate party campaign if he's not the nominee?

[backscatter712]

25. Most of them will stop posting here.

[suston96]

27. Will this answer your question? Check the date......

In the Zone
Posts: 29037
(12/12/06 12:36 pm)

New Post Re: Barack

I love Hillary dearly. At this point, I would be thrilled at seeing Obama as the candidate and watch this country go through his election as president.

[OzarkDem]

31. What will you do if Clinton wins it?

[Genevieve]

33. Hold my nose

and vote for her.

[metalluk]

32. My vote in November

I will vote for Hillary Clinton if she is nominated. If fact, I'll probably help with her campaign in my home state.

If Barack Obama is nominated instead, he will NOT receive my vote because he is dangerously underqualified for the Presidency, even though he is intelligent, likable, and a superb speaker. In addition to being underqualified, he also chose to base his campaign on marketing his personality and emotional appeals, which is not a kind of leadership that I can trust. It is hucksterism at its worst.

John McCain will probably not receive my vote because (a) he is a Republican who would make conservative judicial appointments, be influenced by the religious right, and generally make poor decisions of social issues; and (b) he has temperment problems that make him dangerous as the man with his finger on the button. I respect, however, his work on campaign finance reform, which is an issue dear to my heart. He has stated that he will try to win votes from moderate Democrats and Independents, so I'll have to wait to see what tangible concessions he makes in that direction.

I will not vote for Ralph Nader.

I will take a close look at whoever the Green Party nominates.

Feel free to declare that I'm not a "real" Democrat because I refuse to back a candidate who is grossly unprepared to be President of the United States. I'm a thinking citizen of the U.S. first and foremost, which usually translates into supporting Democratic candidates but not when primarily young Democrats get caught up in hysteria and back a candidate with little or no significant executive, managerial, budgetary, foreign affairs, or political experience.

[ficus1]

45. Hillary has no significant executive, managerial, budgetary, or foreign affairs experience

And Obama has been an elected official longer than she has. The 35 years of experience narrative has been accepted at face value by the media, but in the GE McCain will mock her "experience" to no end. "Hillary brought peace to Ireland" will be the "Al Gore invented the internet" of 2008 if she's the nominee. An unfair characterization of what she's saying, but she opens herself up to it by exaggerating her experience.

[metalluk]

52. Exaggeration

Obama has been accused of exaggerating his role as a community organizer as well as manipulating his description of the nature of the corporate firm for which he briefly worked. All candidates exaggerate and then have to pay the consequences for their own exaggerations. How that will play out remains to be seen.

Hillary's level of experience is far greater than that of Barack Obama. See the post entitled something like "I lived overseas" for an realistic comparison of Obama's level of preparedness for the presidency vs. that of Hillary.

I am not going to speculate about the "electability" of either of the Democratic candidates. I put no credence in the efforts of others to cast one or the other as unelectable. That's just spin. My problem is more basic. If Obama is nominated, I won't WANT him to be elected because I don't believe that he will be a competent President.

[Genevieve]

53. So,

would your rather want mccain to be elected?

[Beacool]

77. Hear, hear!!!!!!!!

My exact feelings about this guy:

...........My problem is more basic. If Obama is nominated, I won't WANT him to be elected because I don't believe that he will be a competent President.

:thumbsup:

[JVS]

37. I would hope that they'd behave with dignity. but the Hillbot track record isn't good.

It will be ugly. Then after the grace week the troublemakers will shut up or be banned. Of course low-level sniping will continue.

[Tresalisa]

43. I could never not vote, and WILL vote for the Democratic nominee,

but people have the right to do what they wish with their votes. I fully understand your question, I'm just sayin'.

I think many who are now saying that they will not vote if their candidate isn't the nominee will probably change their minds. It's painful when your candidate loses or drops out (Kucinich)but time has a way of adding perspective.

:hi:

[Genevieve]

46. Yes

One by by my favorites were gone,

1.
Kucinich,
2.
then Biden,
3.
then Edwards -

Left with the two - I chose Obama, but I can't imagine not voting for a Democrat if HC ends up being the nominee.

[Zhade]

82. "people have the right to do what they wish with their votes" Agreed.

Thank goodness Clinton won't win, because then I couldn't vote for prez (I'm no Obama supporter, but I'd likely hold my nose for him, but not for a wannabe-cheat like Clinton).

[Jillian]

47. To borrow a phrase from Nance Greggs

I will put a clothespin on my nose and vote.

[paperbag_ princess]

49. I try not to make decisions in anger

and I have been very angry at the way the dems have tried to take Hillary down.

I have a serious concern that Obama is not ready for the presidency. I have had that concern from the beginning and all the posts telling me about the great things he has done as a community organizer and state legislator have been far from convincing.

I like Obama. I would to have loved to have seen a Clinton/Obama ticket and would still support one if it came to that.

Ultimately I won't vote for someone who I think is not ready to be a good president. I will give Obama a chance to convince me....otherwise I will not vote for president...or do a write in....I'll keep my mouth shut and go back to reading like I have been for the past 4 years

[Genevieve]

51. I't scary to think how many will not be voting --

I am very,very afraid of a mccain win.

[0007]

54. If that happens. This place will turn into a church like dwelling where only church

mice are welcomed. The atmosphere will become nice, except for the moaning & groaning.

[NashVegas]

55. The Economy Collapses in October, Voters Go Dem, and We're Stuck With a N00b for a President

Who has to be told by his advisers whether to sign or veto important legislation.

[LizW]

56. It depends.

If the rules are enforced the way Skinner said they would be once there is a nominee, then I will stay around. But if the place continues to be a psychotic deluge of name-calling, insults, and lies, then I will probably, regretfully, move on.

[Genevieve]

58. I support Obama --

but, yes -- I totally agree with you on that -- It's gotten really bad here.

[Zhade]

83. It *would* suck if Clinton's more unbalanced supporters were to continue that psychotic deluge.

Since Obama will be the nom, though, they'd be banned for it.

Good riddance to such posters, I say.

[LizW]

84. All chronic rule breakers should be banned after there is a nom.

I'm sure you agree.

[DemGa]

57. We'll be talking about President McCain in November

No way Barack Obama wins the general election. I'll be gone to focus on other things aside from this disaster.

[applegrove]

59. I will congratulate Obama and would vote for him if I was an American.

He's a good egg. i just like Hillary better.

[MasonJar]

60. I will support whoever wins the dem nomination and I will work diligently

to see that nominee win. No more GOPer warmongering and bigotry.

[Zhade]

66. Most of them will come to their senses and support him.

The few arrogant holdouts who feel Clinton is owed the nom (despite her losses, lies, fearmongering and attempts to cheat) will probably explode and be banned.

Those people will not be missed.

[goldcanyonaz]

71. I'd have to think about supporting Obama, his policies, his approach, his tone.

[lastknowngood]

75. We lose 47 states

n/t