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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:27 PM
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Obama will do better against McCain in the GE
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 05:44 PM by theredpen
Recent polling data (end of last week) from SurveyUSA shows Obama winning more electoral votes than Clinton in the general election.


If you look at the underlying data at the site (http://www.surveyusa.com) you will find that Obama wins states by larger margins and loses by smaller margins than Clinton. Obama is withing 1% of winning Texas. With time to shine against McCain, Obama could have an electoral landslide.

Edit: In this poll, Obama loses the following states by a margin that is within the margin of error. That means the following states are battleground states.
Florida
Nebraska
New Jersey
North Carolina
South Carolina
South Dakota
Texas
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:46 PM
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1. K&R
:kick:
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 05:52 PM
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2. Thank you - We need a Democratic President - not a nominee
And Obama is the only candidate to get us there.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:18 PM
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3. You know what depresses me?
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:18 PM by theredpen
You can get more attention for a "Rick Roll" in GD:P than for a post with actual data in it.
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:21 PM
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4. You posted DATA... which always confuses the Partisans.
They don't want DATA, they just want their candidate to win the nomination...
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:03 PM
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11. I appreciate this, thank you!
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:41 PM
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5. The good news is that they can both beat him.
And you are right about the rick-roll.

I am so sick of 3 line opinion pieces with no data that just flame a war. Many, many people hanging around here are just here to fight with each other.

Tiresome.

thanks for posting something of substance.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:48 PM
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6. yes, this is very good news
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:49 PM by SunsetDreams
Thank you for finding this and posting it.

It's interesting to note, that so far, both of them beat out McCain.

Obama's 50 state strategy has paid off, with Pres. Bush approval rating around 19%, and with Obama's appeal to Ind, and Rep, I think this year we could see some red states possibly in play.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:56 PM
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7. Read this also:
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:44 PM
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8. That's an awesome analysis
I thought this graphic was particularly inteseresting:
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:25 PM
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9. Thanks for that!
This "optimal resource allocation" map was awesome:



Looks like Obama can get more effect off of less work than Hillary.

And since the electoral college has been a hot topic in the last coupla Presidential Elections, I found this particularly interesting:
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:01 PM
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10. The probability distribution is key
The blue line (Obama) peaks right of the yellow line (electoral win). The red line (Clinton) does not. Also, the blue peak is narrower meaning that there is less variance (less likelihood that it's wrong).
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 04:48 PM
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12. Apparently, math is still too hard for Clinton supporters
So I'm kicking the post back to the top.

Look at the maps. Which candidate would you rather have representing our side in November? The one who will win at least 280 electoral votes and is poised to pick up a dozen or so more? Or the candidate that will lose if McCain flips a {em]single one of the states that favors her?

Is anyone anxious for Florida to be the key battleground state again?!
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