Sorry, But a 50-50 Split Is The Only Fair Thing For FL & MI

[DrFunkenstein]

Of course, they should be allowed to go to the convention. But we have to show America that we are the Party of responsibility, not the Party of do-whatever-you-feel. They knew what they were doing, they broke the rules and unfairly jumped ahead of other states to have their say. Why should they be allowed to be one of the first to influence the race...and the last to determine it?

They had their cake, but there is no reason they should get to eat it, too.


Pottery Barn rule: You break it, you own it.

[rodeodance]

1. those FL voters did NOT voter for BO---get real.

[NDambi]

9. Fl & MI will not be seated as is...you better dance your way to another solution Sally

[rodeodance]

11. STOP WITH THE NAME-CALLING

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9. Fl & MI will not be seated as is...you better dance your way to another solution Sally

[NDambi]

12. What name calling...Sally is a term of endearment... come down off the ledge

[SKKY]

23. Is someone feeling "down"???

[krawhitham]

18. Damn Nancy, what is your problem

[LittleClarkie]

27. Maybe they need a pillow to cry on

as this person is fond of saying.

[Adelante]

2. I agree it's the simplest thing

Clinton will never go for it.

[Quixote1818]

3. Even if they re-vote it won't be nearly enough to help Clinton win.

She is just trying to get people to think they would be the difference.

[AJH032]

4. The question of course, is:

would you say the same thing if Obama got more votes in those states than Clinton?

[SKKY]

24. I would. This is, and has always been more about ensuring a Democrat...

..wins the election that being for Obama or Clinton. Now, I'm for Obama, but I'll vote and support with my money HRC if she wins the nomination.

[PseudoIntellect]

5. Isn't a 50/50 split essentially the EXACT same thing as...

not counting them at all?

[DrFunkenstein]

25. It Would Allow Them to Attend The Convention

They absolutely should be at the convention. But they shouldn't be rewarded for jumping the other states.

[MercutioATC]

6. No, the SIMPLEST thing would be to just not seat them...

The MOST FAIR thing to do would be to let them vote again.

[Cha]

30. And why should Obama

have to pay for the dlc power-grabbing officials' scam in Florida and Michigan when all they had to do was wait a week?

Let bil nelson pay for Florida's revote and whomever is the wannabe power grabber in Michigan's jump a week ahead which was against the rules.

[Yossariant]

7. Sorry, that is the most UNdemocratic solution I have heard.

It gets Dean's bacon out of the fire.

It removes the issue between the candidates.

It allows the delegates to be seated.

The only people left out in the cold are the actual VOTERS --- who stopped what they were doing and took themselves to the polls to VOTE.

[rodeodance]

13. right--and if 50-50 then some clinton voters dels go to Obama--!!!

[spartan61]

20. I took myself to the polls to vote in Florida

but I went to vote on Amendment #1. I think that's what brought many of the voters to the polls because we knew our vote in the primary wasn't going to count. Many other voters didn't bother to vote because their votes weren't suppose to count.
I was just watching the ABC News and they were showing how close Obama and Clinton are in delegates. The anchor said it was something around 100 delegates that separated them. Then the anchor said that was counting Michigan as a win for Clinton. Now, that's what I call UNdemocratic!! How dare she call that a win when she was the only major player on the ticket. I say, split the delegates between them and get on with it.

[Yossariant]

29. the record turnout in Florida is good for democracy.

You misinterpreted what you heard.

They are separated by 99 delegates -- NOT including Florida or Michigan.

[Liberal Veteran]

8. Simply put, she is trying to poison the process.

They knew these two races weren't going to count, but since the process was skewed in her favor, she now wants to scream and cry about disenfranchisement because she is losing.

Yet another reason I don't want her in the White House.

[dansolo]

10. That is a bad idea, which won't make the problem go away.

There will be endless whining, and possibly lawsuits, if this were to happen.

[NDambi]

14. The party and the candidates will have to agree..but they won't be seated as is..and they shouldn't

[uponit7771]

15. RIGHT!!! Or proportional to the current pledge delegate votes

[tandem5]

16. by doing that you show America you don't give a crap about the voters...

that they are just peons to be manipulated and their votes are prizes to be won! Elections do not belong to the candidates they belong to the people and when you speak of fairness in terms of candidates it reminds me of a certain Supreme Court ruling that cited irreparable harm not to voters, but to a single man, Bush.

All the outrage is over small bodies (DNC officials and super delegates) possibly deciding who our nominee is going to be, but when it comes to FL and MI there is no outrage that a small body of officials DID decide for millions that their voices wouldn't be heard. So its more like - they break it and the voters lose.

There is no high road without being an advocate for the American voter!

[uponit7771]

19. The State DNC HQ's COULD have decented on the reThuglican decision but they didn't

[tandem5]

21. was that not my point?

small bodies of officials deciding for the masses?

[TahitiNut]

17. I suggest another approach, or process, to arrive at a resolution.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/TahitiNut/464

[annie1]

22. Bo supporters should be happy to seat FLA and MI, or allow a do over....

b/c he'll do better than he did the first time around, and if Bo supporters are correct about the math, he still wins the nom.

[LittleClarkie]

26. Revote. THAT'S the only fair option

Let them vote in a primary they know will count.

[BenDavid]

28. how can you say that receiving almost 300,000 more votes

then obama in florida would be fair by splitting it 50-50? So unfair. Hell, if anything obama should have had the mo when he won s c but I guess folks in florida were not decieved by the race baiting by the obama camp they did in south carolina......

And since obama was dumb enough to take his name off the ballot he should receive no delegates from Michigan.

that is fair and balanced.....

[WillyT]

31. I Agree With You, Dr. Funk !!!

I DO NOT want the two states that violated the agreed upon rules to have any say in who wins this thing!

They can attend the convention, they can vote on the platform, but anything concerning the nominees, sorry, your elected officials screwed you out of that option.

NO FUCKING WAY!!!

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