Anyone else here hoping for a brokered convention, with Edwards jumping in and winning?

[brentspeak]

The best person for the job, rescuing us from the Obama/Clinton acrimony, and rescuing the White House from corporate special interests.

:patriot:

[babylonsister]

1. No on both counts. nt

[hueyshort]

46. Oh God. Please not Edwards posts again

[youknowmenotdlc]

2. I'm sure

that would go over well.

As for me I'm gonna hold out for the reanimated corpse of FDR to rise up and wrest control of the race.

[noel711]

3. Quick!

I need the nitro patch!

Stop doing this! I'll have a heart attack....

But Edwards, as part of a ticket,(hear that Barak?), or cabinet appointment (A.G.?)
would give me fodder for hope....

[LisaM]

4. Well, that would be a best-case scenario to a lot of us!

However, I don't think the MSM would stand for it, and I've learned over the years that Americans don't seem to truly want what's best for them.

[sam sarrha]

5. my vote is for the only adult in the room..

[floridablue]

6. Yes !!! Please Please Please

For ONCE lets nominate the best candidate and best potantial President. Not the darling of the Yankee media and the few voters who turn out for the Iowa and New Hampshire votes.

[theboss]

53. Shouldn't the best candidate be able to win a primary at some point in his life?

Show me one place in the country where voters embraced John Edwards and I will jump on his bandwagon.

[Madam Mossfern]

7. sigh

[0007]

8. Edwards in and winning it!! While the 0' girl jumps out of a window

on the 57th floor.

[QC]

9. It is one of my fondest hopes. n/t

[Moloch]

10. Wow. You Edwards people are really grasping at straws.

He lost. Again.

He will not be president. Next year or ever.

[WinkyDink]

44. Hey, as long as there is "hope"! ;)

[saracat]

11. Wouldn't that be wonderful! That thought makes me misty eyed. I miss John sooo much.

We needed him so badly.

[Double T]

12. What are YOU drinking or smoking?

I want some TOO!

[WinkyDink]

45. Pill-tainted tap water!

[NoodleBoy]

13. Russ Feingold had this to say about your perfect candidate:

"He uses my voting record exactly as his platform, even though he had the opposite voting record."

[Inspired]

21. I lost a lot of respect for Feingold over this. n/t

[NoodleBoy]

27. That's hilarious.

[Inspired]

38. Not to me, noodle.

But I could have predicted from the tone of your posts that you would think so.

[NoodleBoy]

56. I should have predicted some people would rather have hated the messanger

than take what Feingold says into consideration.

[jackson_dem]

39. Feingold didn't mention the vote totals for the flyspecked bills

Normalized trade with China (something we have had with nations like Russia since the early 19th century): 35-7 among Dems, 83-15 overall
Patriot Act: It passed 98-1 (Feingold). That meant rethug lites like Wellstone, Kennedy, Boxer, and Leahy voted for it.
No Child Left Behind: Passed 47-2 among Democrats (I think Feingold was one of the 2(. Wellstone, Kennedy, Boxer, and Leahy voted for it. It passed 91-8 overall.
Bankruptcy bill: passed 83-15 overall.
IWR: passed 77-23.

Those are the five flyspecked bills used to swiftboat Edwards as a fraud. That's it. Five votes out of thousands. The IWR is a legitimate attack and probably the bankruptcy bill of 2001 but the others were supported by almost every Democrat. It is disingenuous to attack him over the Patriot Act when everyone except for one voted for it. Ditto NCLB, except two Democrats voted against it. Feingold, sadly, revealed his true colors when leaving this very relevant truths out of his comment but he was carrying Obama's water so he couldn't include the context...

[TAWS]

51. What Happened to Stand up for what's right even if you're standing alone?

[jackson_dem]

60. That is the point

Almost all Dems thought PNTR, the PA, and NCLB were right at the time. Two of the three didn't turn out as expected and no one talks about scrapping the PA but revising a tiny portion of it, which happened a few years ago.

[dysfunctional press]

14. john mccain would probably love it.

it would be a sure way to alienate BOTH hillary and obama's supporters, and hand him the white house in a walk.

[jmg257]

15. Nope - he didn't last long at all - no one supported him before, they won't then either.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Let's not nominate anybody. Let the voters write in anyone they want.

What the hell, it might work out ok.

Everything else is screwed up lately anyway.

Meanwhile, McCain will be getting his hand ready to be placed on the bible.

[fadedrose]

22. You may be right...

I'm having second thoughts about a brokered convention. Some people on TV said something about DLC Super Delegates not having to vote for anybody regardless of popular or delegate votes.

A couple of bribes here or there would cement the nomination for the least desirable person. This part about the bribes wasn't on TV, that was my idea.

The DLC backs Hillary, so a brokered convention may be the worse thing that Obamamamas could ask for....

So, you're saying that the presidential box should have no names and we could just write in anybody we want. That's better than the convention idea.

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. We're looking foolish anyway, may as well go for broke.

How do things get so screwed up, when following something as horrible as a Bush monarchy should have America begging for Democratic administration?

[jackson_dem]

40. When did the DLC endorse Hillary?

I know this is a popular belief in the blogosphere. Does anyone have the memo? Apparently DLC "rising star" Kathleen Seblieus, who is the DLC's best chance at the veep slot, Ben Nelson, Tim Johnson, and numerous other DLC members who have endorsed Obama have not gotten the memo. Even Al From, the DLC's leader, has not gotten the memo since he has been praising both Clinton and Obama and shown no favoritism in his public statements. The Democrat he criticized? The populist Edwards...

[karynnj]

49. Well, Al From in 2006 listed as potential DLC candidates

HRC, Vilsack, Warner and Bayh. Only one is left. She and her husband are or have been in their leadership. Obama is not even a member and they are not so altruistic as to back an outsider over an insider.

[jackson_dem]

59. 2006

That is before Obama became considered a presidential prospect for 2008. Did Seblieus, Nelson, Johnson, From himself, and many others simply not get this mysterious DLC memo that everyone in the blogosphere has received?

[lapfog_1]

64. "hand on the bible"

it's times like these that you really WANT their to be a god, just so He/She/It would "smite" someone so corrupt swearing on His/Her/Their Book.

[Crunchy Frog]

17. No.

I'm not sure what makes Edwards so much better than candidates who were actually able to win states.

[JVS]

18. What's amazing is his inability to win states as though he were Kucinich without all the integrity..

and good record to louse everything up. How can someone have made so many calculating compromises and yet not have a thing to show for it? Amazing

[jackson_dem]

41. We know Kucinich, unlike Edwards, has never changed a position on an issue

Especially a major issue like abortion or gay rights right before running for president as the far left candidate or anything like that. Kucinich and Obama. The only politicians in history to never change a position. :rofl:

[krawhitham]

19. Edwards?

Nope

Gore maybe

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

20. No, Because I Tend Not To Fixate On That Which Is Insane.

Never in a million years would Edwards have a chance here.

The fact is that if it goes to the wire, there will be a forced Obama/Clinton ticket or Clinton/Obama ticket. I'd say that's all but certain.

[JI7]

23. brokered convention will give us Clinton or Obama

it isn't going to give us anyone else. and it would be stupid to give it to anyone else who didn't win the delegates or compete.

[LWolf]

24. I'll take the brokered convention with another candidate in a flash.

Gore. Edwards. There are others, but those seem the most obvious at this point.

Please.

[sniffa]

25. No

It should be Lee Mercer, Jr. that rescues our party. :patriot:

[PurityOfEssence]

28. What an incredible disaster, and I highly doubt he'd even think of it, nor would Gore

These men are being decent and honorable members of the community by shutting up. Kerry's being silly, McGovern's being sweetly nostalgic and loyal and Hart's sadly raving.

I hope that Edwards is standing back for the reasons I suspect: sizeable difficulties with each of the remaining two and an honorable desire to let them make their cases on their own.

This would, of course, be sheer disaster for the party, regardless of his better policy stances and greater electability; this would be seen--rightly so--as dirty pool.

[karynnj]

50. Kerry and Hart, who are neither "silly" or "raving" are far more

competent and serious people with the real accomplishments that Edwards lacks. What it may be is that both of them have a foreign policy/national security point of view that Obama is closest too. (Hart is heading a national security think tank that John Kerry is part of and the force behind. Hart, all but endorsed Kerry in September 2006 when he introduced him when Kerry gave a speech called Real Security at Boston's Faneuil Hall.)

The idea that Edwards is more honorable and serious than anyone endorsing the 2 candidates is silly.

[Exilednight]

29. No, if I had it my way it would be Gore jumping in.

[Window]

30. Hell no.

[fujiyama]

31. I was thinking of that

except, the whole thing about winning delegates didn't go over too well for him. Both Hillary and Obama soundly beat him in all the races he was in following IA. But then again, the convention will be a circus as it is...and if we're considering Hillary who is trailing on the delegate count, why not entertain other ridiculous possibilities?

I think he'd play better in OH and PA than either candidate right now. And while I'm not sure how he'd do in CO or VA compared to Obama, I'm sure he'd do better than Hillary in those states. I also think his populist theme would over time win over Latinos as well.

Ideally, it would be Gore being the white knight, but at this point, Edwards would be less divisive than either Hillary or Obama... Obama or Webb would make great VPs for Edwards...

[peoli]

32. you need a hug.

[fujiyama]

33. Or a drink!

[dflprincess]

34. I don't expect it to happen, but it's fun to think about

n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

35. Why should someone who won no primaries at all

get the nomination?

If Dems wanted a John Edwards candidacy, they would've voted for him.

[KoKo]

36. I'd love for someBrokered Convention" that would give me Al Gore as a candidate..but not gonna

happen. The days of TRUE Brokered Conventions are gone. Al Gore never had a chance when Clintons Ran for Part DEUX and with Obama in the mix...he was DOA...so he didn't choose to run.

That's why I don't have a candidate in this race. All my candidates have been "culled out" for one reason or the other. :-(

For FUN...watch this Video..if you have a sense of humor about the DARK TIMES WE LIVE IT...:

http://current.com/items/88854218_the_democratic_messiah

[tammywammy]

37. No

Going all the way to the convention will lead to the democrats losing in November. The sooner this is settled the better.

Plus, if they bring in someone other than Obama or Clinton, they're going to be at a lost on fund raising versus McCain.

[jackson_dem]

42. That would be great but the best realistic compromise ticket is Gore-Edwards

Both Gore and Edwards would be acceptable to all factions of the party but only Gore has the national following and stature that would allow him to step in as the presidential nominee and have the party not miss a beat. Had Gore run he would probably be preparing to run against McCain right now (if Gore ran Obama would have been another Edwards and Gore would have defeated Hillary because he doesn't have the inexperience cloud hanging over him like Obama)...

[cali]

65. that's not even on the same planet as realistic

The SDs aren't as stupid as some DUers. You're out of your fuggin' mind if you think Gore or Edwards would be acceptable to all factions of the party. And you know jackshit about human nature. People are invested in the two candidates running. Throw out the votes of millions of people, throw out the work of hundreds of thousands, and install Gore and Edwards and you won't have a dem party. Idiotic.

[ecstatic]

43. That's not very democratic, is it?

If that's the case, then why shouldn't anybody have the right to become our nominee, without having won a single primary/caucus?

[karynnj]

47. No - he lost to both and there was NEVER a public rush to embrace him

even though he was a media darling from 2004 through 2006. In both 20043 and 2006, he never won the support of enough people.

The nominee will be Obama or Clinton. it can't be someone who lost to them. (Not to mention BOTH HRC and Obama have more accomplishments than Edwards) It also can't be someone who didn't run. (Both Gore and Kerry are more experiences, with more accomplishments - but they didn't run.)

Edwards did not on special interests when in Congress - Obama did.

[kentuck]

48. How many delegates did Edwards have in FL ?

Will he lose those if there is a new election?

[theboss]

52. Edwards has won exactly two state-wide elections since 1998

1998 NC Senate Race
2004 SC Primary

I'm not exactly confident he is going to set the electorate on fire.

[road2000]

54. A brokered convention

would make sense if the resulting ticket were Gore/Obama. Seems an unbeatable combination.

Edited to add: Gore's already won an election, and Obama leads in delegates. Much as I like Edwards, he just didn't make the case to primary voters.

[helderheid]

55. that would be DREAMY.

[backscatter712]

57. No. Obama got the most pledged delegates, he's earned the nomination. n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

58. I would much prefer that, myself.

Actually, I'm almost at the "ANYBODY but Hillary or Barack" point at this time. I am so tired of these two.

[damonm]

61. WOULD be nice - but about as likely to happen...

as me going home this evening and finding Catherine Zeta-Jones wearing nothing but a fur coat & holding a note from my wife saying "have a good time!"

AKA - not gonna happen.

[avrdream]

62. Oh, what the heck, we are so fucked anyway.

Why not mix it up just a little bit more?

[cali]

63. No. And I think he was a poor candidate

with poor judgment. I'd march in the streets against that. Oh, and looking to be rescued is just pitiful.

[brentspeak]

66. Any more "pitiful" than your daily churlish comments?

How's your latte?