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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:08 PM
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Rendell and Corzine, Hillary SDs, will help raise money for MI and FL do-overs
which Hillary has said she does not want. This is going a little overboard.

NJ, PA GOVS OFFER TO RAISE FL, MI MONEY

Caps are not mine.

NBC News has learned that New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine is willing to raise money to pay for a "redo" of both the Florida and Michigan primaries.

Both states violated Democrat Party rules by holding early primaries, and have been penalized with loss of their delegates to the national concention in Denver.

Apparently, because both states voted for Hillary Clinton, Corzine, along with neighboring Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell -- both strong Clinton supporters -- agreed on Friday to make the offer.

According to remarks Rrendell made on NBC's Meet the Press this morning, he and Corzine are writing a letter to the Washington Post offering to raise half of what he estimated as a $30 million dollar price tag to redo both primaries.


Hillary said she does not want a do-over.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/03/06/exclusive-interview-clinton-looks-ahead-to-mississippi.html

'On a "do-over" in Florida and Michigan, which held nominating contests that
broke Democratic Party rules

I would not accept a caucus. I think that would be a great disservice to the
2 million people who turned out and voted. I think that they want their
votes counted. And you know a lot of people would be disenfranchised because
of the timing and whatever the particular rules were. This is really going
to be a serious challenge for the Democratic Party because the voters in
Michigan and Florida are the ones being hurt, and certainly with respect to
Florida the Democrats were dragged into doing what they did by a Republican
governor and a Republican Legislature. They didn't have any choice
whatsoever. And I don't think that there should be any do-over or any kind
of a second run in Florida. I think Florida should be seated.'


Victor has said he will seek an injunction if FL tries to have a do-over.

Vic DiMaio's "blood is boiling". He is suing Dean, and will get injunction to stop do-over.

By Associated Press
A Florida man who sued national Democrats over the loss of Florida's delegates to the national convention this summer says he'll fight to block any kind of do-over primary in Florida.

Victor DiMaio says his blood is boiling over the Democratic National Committee's decision to strip Florida of all its delegates because the state moved up its primary date against party rules.

He filed a federal lawsuit against the DNC last year. Now that suit will advance to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals on March 17th.

DiMaio calls it a travesty if the votes of Democrats in the January 29th presidential primary don't count.


Dean has said the nominee will take over on July 1st. Who needs us, the voters? No one.

Let's just keep doing it over and revoting, getting all the rich governors to keep raising money for do-overs....and hubby and I won't need to worry about our loyal monthly donations after Dean is gone.

Not if it is going to be this way.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:10 PM
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1. Big money will win the election.
Howard Dean will be well out of there.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:12 PM
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2. Yeah! Let's go swimming in soft money and have it waterboard us this fall.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:13 PM
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3. Sorry...
...but I wouldn't trust an election "bought and paid for" by Clinton backers. FL and MI violated the rules, Dean is right to have enforced those rules. Rules that both states agreed to, before they decided to violate them. Now Team Clinton has decided that, in keeping with their kitchen sink strategy, if the desperate scrapings from a drainpipe let them cling to power, they'll fight for every last bit of sludge.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:14 PM
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4. Hillary is literally trying to steal the election
unfortunately she doesn't realize that most people think she is a shrill, calculating, psychopath whom no one would ever vote for, even if she was running unopposed on the presidential ballot. She will NOT be the nominee. When will the robots advising her clue her in?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:14 PM
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5. So just what do you want?
You don't want the election to count and now you don't want a redo. So just what do you want?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:19 PM
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7. I see the takeover by big money. I don't want a do-over.
It is not my choice. I see the party reverting back to insider power on July 2nd.

I see no reason to give our hard-earned money monthly after Dean is gone if the big players are already taking over.

If I said the sky was blue, you would say it was not blue. So don't worry about agreeing...we will never agree.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:42 PM
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13. There are three choices here
One, Let the Superdelegates decide which you have repeatedly stated you don't want. Two, seat the delegates using the proportions that the elections that have been held which you have repeatedly stated you don't want. Three, run do overs and use those results. Of those three, the third seems to be the fairest from Obama's perspective. I happen to think the Florida results should stand, but if they aren't going to stand, then a redo is the only remotely fair alternative.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:20 PM
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8. So just what do you want?
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:21 PM by DJ13
The states were warned, they made their decisions anyway, so if theres a revote the states should have to tell their voters it WILL cost them out of the state budgets.

No candidate, nor their supporters, should EVER fund an election.

It sets a bad precedent.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:43 PM
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14. see post 13
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:15 PM
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6. What a sorry state of affairs. It's all about $$$. Everything else be damned
Why not just chip in and buy a president - to hell with having to vote.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:22 PM
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9. Is Rendell going to do this on "company time"?
I'm sure that Pennsylvanians would love to know that they're paying a man to raise money for another state.

That'll go over particularly well in Philly with our skyrocketing crime rates and crumbling infrastructure.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:25 PM
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10. Michigan should go ahead with caucuses

That would be one problem solved at least.
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:36 PM
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11. Gov corzine needs to get the boot
this man is more worried about getting his girl the WH instead of taking care of nj residents. Honestly if hrc gets the ticket I seriously will leave this party. I must admit that I'm curious as to why there are more blacks becoming repubs. Corzine has forced me to this as a nj resident I can tell everyone that this man has been a nightmare and he continues to raise our tolls while also cutting our jobs. I'm a public librarian and I get paid by my state. Everyone is feeling the crush right now. He has yet to really do anything for my state. Houses and apts are so high, gas is still high. Recently he told all nj residents basically to kiss his ass regarding the rise in tolls cuz he won't run again. This is why I'm moving out of this state and down south.

Again this won't endear me to support hrc if she gets the ticket because corzine needs to be taking care of nj residents who are struggling and our school systems. Our state university is in a budget crisis. I know cuz I just graduated there and the poor professors worried about all of us getting an education.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:39 PM
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12. What's the guarantee that Barack will even show up?
But if he decides that, all of a sudden, he grew a sac...

And he wants to spend taxpayer money for a "do-over" because he wussed out before...that's his decision.

But I'll tell you this: Consider his political ass kicked!



























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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:16 PM
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15. So is Hillary telling the truth about not wanting the revote?
Or just playing along and letting her surrogates handle things.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:49 PM
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16. Carville too.
On Blitzer a couple days ago he said he'd come up with $15 million if the Obama campaign would do the same to hold do-overs in FL and MI.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:15 PM
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17. So Hillary can keep saying she does not want a do-over
while her surrogates say do it.

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