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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:16 PM
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Rasmussen: Obama Leads in North Carolina
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:17 PM
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1. Knowing Rasmussen, those numbers are probably bigger.
I expect him to win North Carolina by 10+.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:21 PM
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2. agreed
African American support is low, only 71% in that poll.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:21 PM
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3. North Carolina
doesn't fucking COUNT
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:25 PM
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6. ok. why?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:06 PM
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14. Satire from
SoFlaJet.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:02 PM
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27. Because Hillary is going to lose it. They only count if they are big AND Hillary wins it.
Illinois doesn't count. Wisconsin doesn't count. Virginia doesn't count. Texas doesn't count. etc

:sarcasm:
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:46 PM
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9. I forgot! NC doesn't count, WY doesn't count, MS doesn't count....
No state counts that Obama wins.

Obama wins in Wyoming but it isn't news because he was supposed to win. Hillary was supposed to win Ohio. That was big news even though she was supposed to win. Go figure.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:10 PM
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19. You are correct about those
states not really counting for a "hill of beans". It's the big,blue states that the SDs will consider to determine who will defeat McCain. Makes sense to me.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:13 PM
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20. So you don't think Obama would beat McCain in the big blue states?
Please. By the end of their campaigns, NO Indies or Dems. will be voting for McCain.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:23 PM
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4. I'm not worried about NC--heck that's how far down the line anyhow?
Obama will win easily.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:24 PM
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5. Fantastic - It was talked about today as being a "big" state along with PA!
Good news!!

:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:08 PM
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17. As in electoral votes "big"?
I'm happy to see that it's looking brighter in North Carolina for Obama cause I wondered how that would go.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:47 PM
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25. NC--134 delegates
PA --188
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:56 PM
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26. Oh, as in delegate big!
Thanks, marions ghost
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:09 PM
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30. figured it out. thanks 115 pledged, 19 unpledged.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 09:18 PM by annie1
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:16 PM
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32. .
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 09:42 PM by annie1
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:07 PM
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28. I was listening to the political show today & someone said they thought NC was a key state
I thought that was a good sign for Obama. I think he will take PA even though a lot of people don't think so. There are a lot of area's where he can shine there, like his military support.

I put this on earlier:

Obama Introduces Bill To Prevent Veterans Homelessness
Friday, November 9, 2007

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071109-obama_introduce_21 /

Act would launch pilot program to expand veterans housing, supportive services

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) yesterday introduced the Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act, which would launch an innovate pilot program to pair housing for at-risk veterans and veteran families with supportive services in an effort to prevent veterans from falling into homelessness.

According to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, over the course of 2006, there were approximately 336,627 homeless veterans. Although it may take years for veterans to fall into homelessness, hundreds of veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have already found themselves in this situation and, based on reported VA estimates, 1,500 seemed at high risk of becoming homeless. This bill will create housing targeted at veteran families and pair the housing with needed critical services such as mental health counseling, financial planning, and employment training. This bill is co-sponsored by Senators John Kerry (D-MA) and Robert Menendez (D-NJ). Congressmen Al Green (D-TX) plans to introduce companion legislation in the House of Representatives next week.

“Our veterans served this country with honor, and we must not turn our backs on them when they return home,” Senator Obama said. “It’s simply unacceptable that these heroes put their lives on the line for our country and come home to find themselves without jobs, without affordable housing, and lacking the services we owe their sacrifice. In our great nation we must do more for our veterans, and this bill will go a long way in meeting our commitment to these veterans. I thank my colleagues in the Senate and the House for supporting this legislation, as well as our many outside partners committed to this issue. We’ll fight to get this passed quickly.”

According to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, veterans only comprise 11 percent of the adult population but 26 percent of the homeless population. While one of the primary causes for homelessness in this country is the result of a lack of affordable housing, many returning veterans face other significant risk factors, including high unemployment rates and psychological injuries. Evidence shows that not treating these less visible wounds of war can result in homelessness.

The Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act would establish a pilot program within the Departments of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and Veterans Affairs (VA) to combine housing for at-risk veterans and veteran families with more robust supportive services in an effort to prevent this population from falling into homelessness. The legislation authorizes $26 million for pilot programs managed by nonprofits and consumer cooperatives to assist veteran families that might otherwise become homeless with critical services such as mental health counseling, financial planning and employment and training.

This legislation is supported by the Corporation for Supportive Housing, Give US Your Poor: The Campaign to End Homelessness, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, National AIDS Housing Coalition, National Alliance to End Homelessness, National Association for the Education of Homeless Children and Youth, National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, National Coalition for the Homeless, National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty, National Low Income Housing Coalition, National Network for Youth, National Policy and Advocacy Council on Homelessness, Veterans for America, Catholic Charities USA, and Veterans for Common Sense.

..............

Let's not forget Obama's Grandfather was a WWII Veteran who fought with Patton's Army!

http://obama.senate.gov /

Video:

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama on the Senate Floor on the Webb Amendment that Honors Troops' Sacrifice and Strengthens Military Readiness.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:49 PM
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33. Thank you for this info, 1776Forever!
I'm sure hilaryland & rendell have some more slime attacks planned like before the Ohio and Texas primaries but hopefully Obama and campaign have a way to shine through it all!

This is Gold and I'm so happy Obama has done this for our Veterans.
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:28 PM
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7. think Edwards will endorse before then
or do you think that time has passed and it won't make a difference anyway.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:44 PM
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24. I think at this point Edwards Endorsement is worthless
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:43 PM
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8. This is very telling.............
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:44 PM by Beacool
More Obama voters would vote for Hillary over McCain than Hillary voters who would vote for Obama over him:

If Clinton wins the nomination, just 67% of Obama’s voters say they are at least somewhat likely to vote for her in the general election against John McCain. Eighteen percent (18%) of Obama voters say they’re Not Very Likely to vote for Clinton in the general election. Fourteen percent (14%) say they’re Not at All Likely.

If Obama wins the nomination, just 49% of Clinton voters say they’re Somewhat or Very Likely to vote for Obama against McCain. Nineteen percent (19%) say they’re Not Very Likely to vote for Obama in the general election. Twenty-six percent (26%) say Not at All Likely.


This is what I've been saying all along, keep trying to disenfranchise Hillary voters and you can start to practice saying: President McCain.


:eyes:
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:47 PM
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10. disenfranchising Hillary voters??? n/t
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:48 PM
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11. self delete
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:49 PM by earthlover
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ExtraGriz Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:00 PM
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13. i've read similar too
the pew research group stated pretty similar to what you mentioned...not sure how this will play out in the general election, but its a little worrying.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:07 PM
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16. Hillary also has less voters.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:54 PM
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34. by 3%.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 09:55 PM by annie1
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:08 PM
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18. Don't worry - he can bring in new voters to replace those who are upset Hillary lost.
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Altair Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:43 PM
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23. Yet he still does better against McCain in most national polls- go figure
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:11 PM
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31. woah, that's too high for the the clinton supporters to not support him. that's no good. :(
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:52 PM
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12. Can somebody define big state for me?
When does a state seize to become a big state?

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GreenInNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:42 PM
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22. not sure
But we are currently the 10th biggest in terms of population, just passed NJ.

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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:09 PM
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29. this state is probably top 15 in delegates i think, if not top 10.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 09:09 PM by annie1
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:06 PM
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15. But, let's look at his latest
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:32 PM
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21. Yep, it's been Hillary for a few days.
Obama supporters just don't get it. There are too many people who support Hillary to simply ignore the fact and pretend that she and the 13 million people who voted for her don't count. If we want to win the WH, I don't see any other solution than having these two run together. It wouldn't be the first time that rivals have paired for the good of the party (JFK & LBJ come to mind).
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:45 AM
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35. but
if neither one will settle for VP which appears to be the case, how does that work?

With the current level of hostility, it seems kind of Pollyannish to suggest that they'll magically repair the damage and be able to form a productive partnership. This is what happens when you get too much money and too much competition in politics. People are losing their taste for Hollywood endings.

I could be wrong, but I think it's a solution that works in theory but not in reality.
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