Roland Martin just made a great point about Hillary's argument that she's the one who'll win the BIG

[jenmito]

BLUE states a Dem. needs to win" and that's why she should be the nominee even if she has fewer delegates than Obama. She includes TX in her list of big states. First of all, TX isn't "blue," (yet she counts it-even though not only did OBAMA win more delegates there, but it's inconsistent with the rest of her argument), secondly, OBAMA would win the big blue states, too (as well as expanding the electoral map in a way Hillary won't), and thirdly, he pointed out that Hillary insults ALL the Dems. in the red and purple and small states implying or SAYING they don't count.

That's why we need OBAMA to be our nominee! He doesn't see voters as numbers but as people.

[WolverineDG]

1. Fourthly, she's already thrown Texas under the bus

she told Texas Monthly she can't win Texas in the GE.

dg

ps thanks :)

[jenmito]

3. I already have a "thirdly."

But fourthly, that's another thing-Obama possibly CAN win TX!

[loveangelc]

2. Like I have said, Roland Martin should be Obamas communication director.

he's usually spot on imo on what needs to be done.

[jenmito]

4. I agree. He's good. I often see him making perfect comments that

nobody else will say (at least on CNN).

[Samantha]

36. He also mentioned Dems would be running for elective offices

in these "red" states; and Hillary's belittling of those states is not helpful to those Dems in that regard. That's a tremendously great point: Hillary's tactics are damaging to party candidates planning future runs in these red states.

I hope the DNC sits up and takes notice.

[jenmito]

41. Yeah, I heard that. Obama will help people down-ticket.

Hillary won't.

[dchill]

5. Now there's a thought.

Plus, he probably only calls HRC a monster in private, off the record. :)

[KittyWampus]

21. who is Roland martin?

[Whisp]

6. hey jen, are you the one who has many letters read on CNN

on McCaferty?

can you pen one to him in regards to the BIG LIE about Texas being a win for Hillary?
as you obviously have some cred there.

or have you already.

;)

[jenmito]

8. Yup...

(Cafferty, but close enough). :)

I DID send an email about that to CNN and MSNBC. (Not to Cafferty directly, but to CNN. And I said so right here a few days ago)! Maybe I'll send another one to Cafferty directly! :hi:

I wrote this: TX was not only a primary. It was a "prima-caucus."
The primary is not seperate from the caucus when it
comes to who won the state. And here's just one
article about how Obama won the caucus by so many
delegates that they overtook Hillary's lead in the
primary part of the election. PLEASE report on this:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/7/11339/50182/559/471347

[Cha]

16. Thanks Jen...you're our

communications director with the m$$$m.

[jenmito]

24. No problemo!

It's whatI do! (I guess). :D

[Whisp]

18. sweet, thanks for your work. nt

[jenmito]

25. My pleasure!

:hi:

[MindMatter]

27. That makes it a "Crime-ary"

Caucus + primary = Crime-ary

OK. It's late. Sorry.

[jenmito]

29. Only if Hillary considers it a "win."

:D

[Yael]

46. Wow -- cool!

[jenmito]

51. Thanks, Yael!

:hi:

[cottonseed]

7. A ham sandwich will take CA and NY for the democrats.

And that goes for the rest of the big Blue states too. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Certain states are known as "democratic strongholds" for a reason, they tend to see a majority of democratic voters come out to the polls. This will become Obama's "base" come the general election -- add to that the new democrats and independents and we'll wipe the floor with McCain.

[jenmito]

13. Exactly, which is why her argument is so weak. And it's not only HER argument, but her

surrogates' arguments, too.

[Yossariant]

9. LOL! Martin is looneytoons. Hillary Clinton does not expect to win TX in the general.

What a nutcase he is.

:rofl:

[jenmito]

11. It's Hillary (and her supporters) who are the nutcases...

She makes so many inconsistent statements she can't keep them straight. She counts her "win" in TX as a reason she should be the nominee. She counts it as a big state she won (she counts FL and MI, too). :eyes:

[Yossariant]

22. Try this: Obama has won zero big states that the Dems need to win, except his home state.

Martin is confused.

Obama can't win Florida or Ohio and he can't win the general without one of them.

He cannot win.

[jenmito]

26. Try this: Obama HAS won big states that HE, not SHE, can win in the GE...

not to mention he'll also win all the blue states she beat him in. Even if he DOESN'T win FL or OH, he will win states Hillary can't. He'll change the whole map to the Dems.' advantage.

[neverforget]

38. Does a primary win equal a GE win? Of course it doesn't.

What a fallacious argument.

[thoughtcrime1984]

10. The fallacy that Obama can't win big states

We all know that he can win CA, MA, and NJ. Ohio and PA might be tough for either Dem to win, but only those who are being disingenuous would claim that only Hillary can beat McCain in the big, traditonally blue states. That is not an argument that should even have any weight with Party elders, and I'm sure it doesn't- no matter how much the MSM wants that to be the message.

[jenmito]

14. Exactly...

but sadly some SDs in Hillary's camp, like Ed Rendell, are arguing the "big state" theory.

[thoughtcrime1984]

17. If he believe it, he's daft. If he doesn't, he's lying

I'd say the latter, and that a Hillary surrogate would lie is no surprise.

[jenmito]

28. I agree it's the latter...

and others, like Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, agree with him.

[mculator]

12. Sick of Obama

[jenmito]

15. I don't care.

[Binka]

50. Sick Of You

Mister hidden profile. Bah and Yuck. You are a pest.

[DesertFlower]

19. i mentioned her talk of "big states"

earlier on another thread. what does that say to the people in small states? it says you're not important.

[jenmito]

30. Exactly...

Yes, it says nobody counts except voters who vote for her in states she wins.

[kentuck]

20. That's right! Screw the 50-state strategy...

All we need to win is NY and CA and a few states in New England, then if we can win FL or OH, then we may squeak by with a victory? Why waste our time with all those other folks?

[jenmito]

32. Yup. She's going by the "old" map. Obama will create a whole NEW map

with more blue than ever.

[Hepburn]

23. Another great post from Jen...thanks!

Good to see you! :hi:

[jenmito]

33. Thanks, Hepburn...

Good to see you, too! :hi:

[JimGinPA]

31. He's A Great Fisherman Too...

Sorry, couldn't help it.

:evilgrin:

[jenmito]

34. That's ok...

even though I don't get it. :shrug:

[JimGinPA]

37. Here

http://myoutdoortv.com/new/roland-martin.html?gclid=CLTAhuG-gZICFRgSQQodcCmW3g

[jenmito]

40. Oh....

I didn't know there was another one. Thanks! :hi:

[AtomicKitten]

35. Obama has already won.

After seeing Ed Rendell on Meet the Press, I am convinced ClintonCo has lost their collective mind. Obama has won the most delegates, the most states, and the most popular vote.

There's no coming in second in politics. Well, maybe we can give her a canned ham.

On edit: K&R :hi:

[jenmito]

43. I agree...

They HAVE lost their collective mind!

Thanks! :hi:

[RBInMaine]

39. SPOT ON TARGET !!

[jenmito]

44. Thanks...

on behalf of Roland Martin. :D :hi:

[BeyondGeography]

42. AND Hillary is a disaster waiting to happen in the upper Midwest

MN and WI, not to mention Iowa, which will well remember the way she dissed them after her caucus loss in January. She gets spanked in CO, VA and, potentially, WA, too.

[jenmito]

45. Exactly...

She has burned so many bridges by minimizing every state she lost.

[cooolandrew]

47. Yes, he has true otential to actually bind a nation togeterh after os many years.

[alteredstate]

48. I saw that!

He's great. And he's right.

[jenmito]

52. He sure is. Whenever he's on, I know he's going to say something right on target!

:)

[MzShellG]

49. Thanks Jen. I was watching that show live.....

When he said that. He hit the nail on the head with that comment. An Obama surrogate needs to be constantly repeating that in the mainstream media until the Clintons stop with their lies.

[jenmito]

53. Yeah, I hope they DO start listening to him and repeating these FACTS.

:hi:

[Medusa]

54. The Desperate Hillary campaign still trying to claim Texas and Michigan as "wins"

even though Obama walked away with more delegates in Texas and in Michigan, Hillary was the ONLY CHOICE on the ballot! Those are "wins"????

[jenmito]

55. I think most people see that as desperation or even playing dirty.

It doesn't make her look good to play these games.