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Sun Mar-09-08 10:16 PM
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What happens if Obama wins the nomination, and McCain chooses a female running mate? |
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I just thought of this possibility. Crap.
Obama needs "security" credentials on his ticket. He needs a running mate that will help balance out his lack of foreign policy experience. Someone who isn't a complete unknown to the American people.
What female VP possibilities does he have other than Hillary, who would probably not accept even if he offered it to her?
Could McCain steal the Democratic Party's thunder when it comes to having a woman on the ticket?
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:17 PM
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1. You worry too much about |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:22 PM
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10. You're right. I'll just stop worrying and assume that we'll win in Nov. |
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Guess I might as well stop coming into GDP now.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:30 PM
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:18 PM
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2. We would crush him like a bug. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:19 PM
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3. Bill Richardson might be the ticket |
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Locks up Hispanic support, which has been soft for him thus far, and New Mexico, and significant foreign policy experience.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:31 PM
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20. I agree. And it's obvious he WANTS the job! |
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Did you see him interviewed on CNN (IIRC)? He was almost giddy when asked if he would take the job of VP after saying the one with the most delegates after Mar. 4th should be the nominee.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:34 PM
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I'm not that crazy about Richardson, he kinda drove me nuts during the debates repeating himself (they all did, actually) and, more specifically, he turned me off during that debate on GLBT issues (and I'm not gay - he was just embarrassing :-( ) But he'd be a good choice for what Obama needs. So would Edwards, but he doesn't bring foreign policy help. Still, I'd love to see either of them on an Obama ticket.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:19 PM
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4. Lynne Cheney will be required by Dick to be his VP. n/t |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:20 PM
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5. McCain serve with a........woman? |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:23 PM
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11. McCain served by a woman. |
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He is the next poster child for Viagra.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:24 PM
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...good old Cindy would come out of her haze long enough to have a hissy fit!
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:20 PM
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:21 PM
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7. Who would McCain choose? Katherine Harris? |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:23 PM by ocelot
There aren't very many Republican women who'd be eligible for the job.
Liddy Dole, maybe? Lynne Cheney? I doubt it.
CondorLizard? Not a chance.
Don't forget -- the Republican party is the party of Old White Guys. McCain will choose another Old White Guy, probably a wingnut like Tancredo or Hunter to keep the fundies and freepers in line.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:29 PM
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17. Christine Todd Whitman, Governor of NJ 1994-2001? |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:30 PM by FlyingSquirrel
Could put that state in his column, we only won it 53-46 in 2004. He could pick up 4 percentage points and win NJ 50-49. That's 15 Electoral Votes, nothing to sneeze at.
Not to mention, she had no love for the Bush administration.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:34 PM
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32. No way. Whitman is too moderate. She's pro-choice, |
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and has been critical of the Bush Administration. McCain needs a fundie whackjob Old White Guy, not a pro-choice female VP. The GOPers would never tolerate her.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:37 PM
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36. How about Olympia Snowe of Maine? She's expected to be on his short list |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:56 PM
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53. Snowe is also relatively moderate. |
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If he does pick something other than an Old White Guy, it would have to be a female rabid fundie whackjob.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:49 PM
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63. The only person who would fit that bill would be Ann Coulter |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:41 PM
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42. Liddy Dole! At least we'd get rid of her. But he'll get NC anyway. |
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On the other hand, it does give the ticket a glass ceiling to break. And she does well with the Christian Right.
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Mon Mar-10-08 03:48 AM
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65. Liddy Dole is even older than McCain |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:21 PM
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8. I think one identity politics breakthrough is enough this election. |
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Obama needs a hardcore military type/national security dude to balance the ticket.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:22 PM
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9. McCain won't choose a woman. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:23 PM
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:25 PM
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15. Because these days he's not too sure what a woman is. |
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I've heard he mistook a hat for his wife.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:31 PM
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21. No, but she does closely resemble ... |
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my neighbor's siamese cat.
Holy ghost of Liberace, lay off the plastic surgery! Why do these folks insist on looking like a younger but perpetually surprised version of themselves???
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM
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23. Squirrel, please see my post 18 below- I meant to respond to your question |
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and posted in the wrong place.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:36 PM
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34. Because he desperately needs to keep his base |
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He is already distrusted by the hard core right wing conservatives. They are patriarchal Neanderthals. They will stay home if he has a woman on the ticket.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:39 PM
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37. You know, there are plenty of Republican women. This could drive them |
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to the polls, if they otherwise were not interested this year. Olympia Snowe of Maine is expected to be on his short list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympia_Snowe
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:29 PM
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18. I think he will be forced to excite the conservative base, and I think he |
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won't risk scaring the fundies who believe that women should be "submissive."
I'm basing this on being raised as a fundie Republican in the South- hope I'm wrong!
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:24 PM
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13. Then Obama Will Face Mrs. Clinton Yet Again |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:26 PM
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16. Then I guess we have to see if women voters prefer a female VP or abortion rights in the future. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:31 PM
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22. Obama will probably choose a woman |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:32 PM by Gore1FL
Governor Katheryn Sebelious, (D-KS)
She is by far the best choice out there fo him, in my opinion.
Maybe McCain will choose Vickey Iseman (when she answers the phone at 3:00, she'll talk dirty)
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:40 PM
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39. I like the sound of that...Obama doesn't need some right-wing General |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM
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24. Obama/Biden vs McCain/Rice |
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Maybe the Southern Republicans will all secede and move to Cuba.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM
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25. Hillary will feed John arsenic after McClame accepts her candidacy as VP |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:34 PM by BushDespiser12
Edit to clarify
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM
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26. Yeah, like what if McCain picks a black woman |
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say, like, if Condeleeza Rice gives in to all the pressure and decides to go for it?
Wouldn't that be interesting????
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:40 PM
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38. I don't think he'll choose Rice, but stranger things have happened I suppose. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:43 PM
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61. Nothing that strange will ever happen. Condi, for all her faults, is pro-choice. |
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NO ONE pro-choice is getting anywhere near the GOP ticket. Ever.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM
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27. Remind me again what Foreign Policy Experience Hillary has? |
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:16 PM
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:34 PM
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29. Yes, he could do that, and it would be very interesting. |
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But I'd love to see what happens on the Right were he to do such a thing.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:41 PM
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40. Maybe, a lot of Republican women would come to the polls who might have |
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otherwise stayed home? Flip Maine into his column with Olympia Snowe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympia_Snowe
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:32 PM
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57. Sure would flip the race on its head. |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:32 PM by krkaufman
Makes one think that Hillary has to be Obama's VP, and pray for the best.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:34 PM
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30. you just thought of this? Rice has been talked about for months now. |
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I wouldn't worry about a VP yet. that will work itself out later.
Worry about Laura Bush going public with how being a First Lady does NOT prepare you to be president, and that anyone who says it does is delusional. Hillary is not an acceptable VP.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:43 PM
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44. I've heard the talk of Rice but dismissed it. |
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Ya I just thought of it. So sue me. This could be (and perhaps should be) the year of the woman in presidential election politics, and we need to be thinking what Obama would be able to do for a female running mate if McCain chooses one.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:05 PM
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54. I don't think Rice is a possibility either, but it shows some are thinking along that line |
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I think we should cross that bridge when we come to it. It is also very possible that McCain will choose Romney, or someone equally as lame
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:17 PM
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56. but maybe Laura wants to run in the next NY Senate race. |
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After all, she's been first lady of one of the biggest states in the U.S., and the whole darn U.S.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:34 PM
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31. He can use Hillary. The Ads are already there for it |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsYWiywdCAThe only thing that ad is missing is Lieberman, former Democratic Party VP candidate. The DLC needs to go NOW.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:35 PM
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33. McCain is NOT going to be the GOP nom(he'll drop out ILLNESS)....dollar to donuts it will be Newt |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:36 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
get ready for the October Surprise
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47. I've been saying all along... |
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that McCain won't make it to November (health issues), but Newt? Oy. Hadn't thought of that one...
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:49 PM
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50. Newt's being given a lot of face time lately & always on the topic of Reagan ... |
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Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 11:00 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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58. I still have "Nuck Fewt" bumper sticker around somewhere... |
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might end up on my car after all.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:37 PM
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35. Olympia Snowe of Maine is expected to be on his short list. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:41 PM
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41. "McCain chooses a female running mate" |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:43 PM
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43. doesn’t matter who he picks within reason |
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He will get elected in the GE. Looks like Borack will be the nominee and he's unelectable.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:48 PM
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49. So says the all-knowing moobu... |
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You got my lottery numbers for next week yet?
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:43 PM
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45. Some poor lady is going to get jet lag for no good reason ... |
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because Obama is going to kick the ever-living shit out of McCain come November.
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:45 PM
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46. Wow, so many long, well-reasoned answers to my question. |
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I hardly know where to start!
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:12 PM
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67. Name one instance where the VP choice won the election ... |
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VP selections make good gossip, but they rarely have any significant impact on the outcome. In 2004, if Edwards could have delivered NC we'd be talking about President Kerry's re-election right now, wouldn't we?
I think it's very important to make a wise choice, as there's always the chance that he/she will be called upon to step up. But I just think the whole issue gets blown way out of proportion when looking at how the votes will play out in November. Most people choose by either the party or the person on top of the ticket. VP not so much, if at all (to any meaningful extent).
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:47 PM
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48. On the short list is Condi I hear. |
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Sun Mar-09-08 10:54 PM
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52. Genius! That way Borack couldn’t race bait |
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:44 PM
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62. Never happen. Who'd you hear that from? They don't understand how the GOP works. |
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Condi's pro-choice. The folks who don't grasp what a firm grip the religious right loonbags have on the Republican Party's nuts are the chuckleheads who thought Rudy Guiliani would be the "front runner".
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:37 PM
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59. Since McCain is so old, any VP he pickes |
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would have to really be ready to be president if needed.
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Sun Mar-09-08 11:38 PM
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60. What happens if Hillary wins the nomination, and McCain chooses a female running mate? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 03:37 AM
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64. It helps him narrow the gap with women, of course. But |
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it helps him even more if Obama's the nominee and he chooses a male running mate. Which many think he'll need to do to beef up the ticket with regard to "national security creds".
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Mon Mar-10-08 04:14 AM
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66. That would be a shrewd and smart move by McCain. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:13 PM
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68. McCain will start an affair with his running mate. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:14 PM
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69. Female voters aren't very loyal to democrats anyway. |
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We just have more female democrats.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:14 PM
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70. And she is a black lesbian and has a funny name! |
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:14 PM by endarkenment
OMG!
WE'RE SCREWN!
On the other hand that rice woman has a record of failure that should be just fine to run against.
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I see her standing behind him at every function it seems. The press has asked her and she has said no...but I am suspicious. She wants more than she has...last cycle she wanted to run for gov of TX...but was told no by her party....
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