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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:25 PM
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Isn't it strange that nobody talks about McCain's multiple admitted affairs?
I mean I can understand that nobody has brought it up here because we are too busy bashing each other's candidates. Or, we don't want to sink to their level. But, where is the MSM media on this? I told my cousin, a hard core republican about it, and he had never heard that McCain had cheated on his first wife.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:26 PM
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1. i think it has more to do with people getting sick at the thought of it
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:51 PM
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12. That's exactly it. Just the thought of it and I'm burping vomit...
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:27 PM
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2. Such things will come out in the GE for McCain and the Dem candidate. n/t
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:28 PM
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3. The NYT tried it
and was slammed... and they capitulated on the young "lobbyist".
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:30 PM
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8. That was an unsubstantiated claim, I am talking about the affairs
he admitted to.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:00 PM
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32. Actually, it wasn't unsubstantiated...
it was considered "old news" and supposedly already played out some years ago.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:28 PM
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4. You don't get it....
McCain is a Republican. When Republicans cheat, it isn't wrong. They are bravely grappling with personal crises that we can't possibly understand without being in their shoes.


When a Democrat has an affair, it's sleazy, sinful, anit-American sex of the most depraved kind, likely to lead to bestiality.

Do you get it now? :sarcasm:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:37 PM
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14. see: Newt Gingrich nt
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:47 PM
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28. Exactly...a freeper I flew with years ago told me what Newt did was OK because
he didn't do it in the Oval Office. Dontcha just love it when they accuse us of moral relativism?
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:29 PM
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Obama's not the type to go into this personal stuff, and Hillary
is too vulnerable when it comes to cheating husbands.

There's just too many of them not qualified to throw stones.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:29 PM
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5. imagine if Michelle Obama had once been a pill-popping addict
think the average person would know all the details by now? Ask your cousin if he knows about Ms. McCain.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:47 PM
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18. Maybe she was.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:21 AM
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21. naw
if she was, we would already know about it
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:22 AM
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27. Exactly, the Clinton folks would definitely have shared that little tidbit with us
:kick:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:35 PM
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40. it would not have been the Clintons
it would have been THE ENEMY
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:29 PM
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6. Bill is waiting to see if he knows any of McCain's interns
then Hillary will bring it up in the campaign.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:30 PM
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7. John (I don need no stinking Viagra) McShame is my new Hero...at 75 he is still ticking
Some of them Power Groupies migh be a tad on the Homely side??? Maybe thats the reason of no mention by the media??

Could it be he is sinful of a horny rooster???
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:37 PM
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10. He's 71. I hope your aren't psychic and somehow channeling into
the 2012 election.

:rofl:
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM
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9. I think it is strange
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 10:33 PM by littlebit
that ol Johnny can still perform. I say good for him.:woohoo:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:43 PM
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11. The media won't cover it because they covered it up for him in 2000
Read the dailyhowler.com, there are plenty of quotes from back in 1999 and 2000 where the press admitted taking McCain off the record so they wouldn't have to report on his affairs.

Here's a sample:

Our analysts derived one last mordant chuckle from Glenn Frankel’s (generally unobjectionable) profile of McCain. They came to us with the following passage—a description of the way things worked the last time McCain sought the White House:

FRANKEL (8/27/06): "We knew that John could carry on a conversation with any reporter for 24 hours a day," says Davis. "So we based our whole campaign model on 'earned media.' If a reporter wanted to fly with him or get an interview, we'd say: 'He's going to the West Coast. You can sit next to him on the plane; you can have the hotel room next to his; you can be in the car with him the entire time.'"


The same strategy produced the campaign bus, dubbed "Straight Talk Express," in which McCain, positioned in a red leather swivel chair like a prime minister, held a running all-day news conference for the media pack. All of it was on the record, much of it lively and self-lacerating.

“All of it was on the record!” Except for more McCain’s less impressive statements—things the press took off the record! Yes, we know—it’s hard to believe. But in December 1999, Nancy Gibbs and John Dickerson, writing in Time, described the way their cohort was covering—and covering up for—their champion:

GIBBS/DICKERSON (12/13/99): And then there are the stories he tells—to which, if there's a pattern, it's to exalt other people and deflate himself. A presidential candidate is not supposed to tell you about the rules he broke or the strippers he dated, or the time he arrived so drunk that fell through the screen door of the young lady he was wooing. The candor tells you more than the content, and reporters sometimes just decide to take McCain off the record because they don't want to see him flame out and burn up a great story.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh090106.shtml


The media doesn't want to talk because then they would have to own up to all the other lies they've helped cover up or create.
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 10:53 PM
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13. Good stuff, thanks for providing insight into the schizophrenia that is the MSM. n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:16 AM
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25. and don't forget the Imus connection
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 09:17 AM by Mabus
I heard Ana Marie Cox call Imus, shortly after he was fired, the Grandfather/Godfather of the Washington Press Corps. What does that have to do with McCain? If you remember, a number of reporters were on Imus's show to raise their profiles. They willingly sat there and played the stooge to Imus just so they would have face time on television in hopes of moving up the ranks within the Washington press corps. The reporters were good to McCain because McCain and Imus were buddies.

Here's a Larry King interview with Imus from Aug. 2000 wherein McCain joins in over the phone. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0008/11/lkl.00.html).


KING: We're back with Imus.

We have a little surprise for the I-man. With us on the phone from Seattle, Washington, is one of his stalwart friends through thick and thin. Despite the fact that this man is oft been criticized, oft praised, he remains a fan of the I-man, Senator John McCain of Arizona.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: How you doing, I-man?

IMUS: Hi, Senator McCain, how are you?

***

IMUS: We rode up to Mesa. You know the thing I noticed, Senator McCain is that you didn't make your bed when you left.

MCCAIN: Oh, my God. That just shows a classless guest. That will probably guarantee I'm never brought back. And I'm glad you checked, though, you anal...

KING: Hey, John -- Senator, first, what did you think of the ranch?

MCCAIN: You know, it's truly magnificent. The thing is really magnificent. It isn't just there for Don and Deirdre and Fred and his wife...




Here's another Larry King interview with Imus who reveals that he was a McCain supporter. (from Dec. 2000; see, http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/22/lkl.00.html


KING: You were a McCain supporter?

D. IMUS: Yes; I voted for McCain, I wrote his name in.

KING: You did?

D. IMUS: Yes; because I had to -- you know, I had to fill out a paper ballot and it was easy and I just wrote his name in, so.



So, in my mind, the press corps sitting aboard the Straight Talk Express willingly became McCain's Double Talk Express because they didn't want to piss of Don Imus. If they had written the truth about McCain and his affairs back in 1999 & 2000, chances are they wouldn't have been sitting at the left hand of Imus. No appearance on Imus, no move up the ladder. As proof of this assertion, I offer Ana Marie Cox's own words:

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1609447,00.html

Every time I've been on Don Imus' show, he has reminded listeners that he "discovered" me. It's not exactly hyperbole. He first invited me on when I was just a foulmouthed blogger who ran the gossipy political site Wonkette. As I recall, my first on-air conversation with him was about the Bush twins, or, as I called them, "Jenna and Not-Jenna." Last fall I became a regular guest and took up slightly more serious topics (on my last appearance we talked about Senator John McCain's Baghdad trip and Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani's lack of social graces), but the subjects hardly mattered. I had been invited inside the circle, and to be perfectly honest, I was thrilled to be there.

As the invites kept coming, I found myself succumbing to the clubhouse mentality that Imus both inspires and cultivates. Sure, I cringed at his and his crew's race-baiting (the Ray Nagin impersonations, the Obama jokes) and at the casual locker-room misogyny (Hillary Clinton's a "bitch," CNN news anchor Paula Zahn is a "wrinkled old prune"), but I told myself that going on the show meant something beyond inflating my precious ego. I wasn't alone. As Frank Rich noted a few years ago, "It's the only show ... that I've been on where you can actually talk in an informed way — not in sound bites." Yeah, what he said!

I'm embarrassed to admit that it took Imus' saying something so devastatingly crass to make me realize that there just was no reason beyond ego to play along. I did the show almost solely to earn my media-elite merit badge. The sad truth is that unless you have a book to promote, there's often no other reason any writer or columnist has to do the show. If Rich wants to "talk in an informed way," I'm sure there's an open mike at C-Span Radio, and if there's really a hunger for such adult dialogue, does it really have to be accompanied by childish crudeness? Actually, don't answer that. In any case, the media figures and politicians who clown around with Imus can pretend that the show is really about informed conversation or pop sociology or anything except junior-high-level teasing, but its true appeal for them lies in the seal of approval Imus bestows.


Here's a little more from the daily howler on how the media treated McCain during the 2000 election cycle.

Sweet selectivity: In an excellent piece in yesterday's Post, Howard Kurtz explores the flip side of this matter. He describes the press corps' relations with John McCain (sub-headline: "Does John McCain have the media eating out of his hand?") Clearly, some think that he does. After citing odd remarks by McCain that have gone unreported, Kurtz quotes Jacob Weisberg:

KURTZ: "At one level, the press protects him," says Jacob Weisberg, political writer for Slate magazine. "He delivers these stupid lines all the time. The typical response from journalists is either not to report it or to congratulate him for being so blunt instead of treating it as a gaffe...If Bush had talked about 'gooks,' everyone would say how callow he is and say he's not up to running U.S. foreign policy." (Kurtz's deletion)


Later, Kurtz quotes Time's Jay Carney:

KURTZ: "You get the sense that you're being manipulated by candor, rather than manipulated by subterfuge and deception, but it is a strategy," says Carney. McCain is gambling "that you'll put whatever potentially damaging statements he makes within the context of an overall picture of the man. That contrasts pretty starkly with a lot of other candidates and politicians." (Kurtz's emphasis)


Again, the scribes describe totally unprofessional conduct by the press corps, in which reporters bury strange comments from hopefuls they like. Are you really shocked to think it works the other way—that they gimmick up "gaffes" from those they don't favor? No one condemns the press corps more than the press corps itself, talking to Kurtz. (NOTE: If the press corps is unprofessional in its McCain coverage, that reflects on the press corps, not on McCain.)

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h120999_1.shtml


And, think about it. Don't you think the press saw Vicki Iseman hanging out with McCain back in 1999? I believe the press knew about Iseman and McCain but they didn't talk about then and they don't want to talk about it now. If they start admitting how they fudged the public record in 1999/2000 with their reporting the American people might just wake up long enough to realize that the press has been lying to them all along. It might also force more people to understand how the press has been helping to manipulate the news in the past for their own career interests, their ratings and their own spot in the limelight.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:40 PM
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15. at least he hasn't had any Pages!
????
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:41 PM
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16. IOKIYAR. nt
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 11:44 PM
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17. Bill Clinton's popularity went UP when the RW bashed him over sex
it will help McCain even more. People will look at the old fart he is now and feel impressed a guy that old can get his freak on.

Bashing McCain over sex only helps him.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:13 AM
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19. they were separated when he met Cindy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

and about Cindy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Hensley_McCain


here in AZ there isn't any scandal, it is all old news that was never covered up or lied about
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:15 AM
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20. Because Bill C. being sexual was a secretly titillating thought; McCain is gag-worthy.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:23 AM
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22. gag-worthy??????
Bill titillating???????:rofl:

Bill was the biggest gag-worthy POTUS ever!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:28 AM
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23. Sorry, but Bill was (is?) considered sexy. If you think McCain is viewed that way, sorry.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 12:34 AM by WinkyDink
Why do you think Starr and the rest of America's Puritans were so interested in the salacious details, which Starr just HAD to put into the public domain? You don't think they were more than slightly excited, hmmmmm??

You don't think Gennifer Flowers is a dame who couldn't do better, do you?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:34 AM
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24. I don't think either of them are sexy
If Hillary had not told Bill to fight Paula Jones instead of settling out of court no one would have ever heard of Ken Starr or Monica

It was their own fault not anyone else's

I don't feel sorry or make excuses for them


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ctaylors6 Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:19 AM
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26. I think because it's pretty well known already. I heard about it a lot when NYT had that
recent piece about him & lobbyist. I remember hearing about it a ton in 2000.
I also think he may have been given a little more leeway by MSM on the first marriage because a lot of the problems arose from his POW years.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:53 PM
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29. Actually, I would find it strange if the media addressed it . .
along with any of the other issues regarding this badly flawed candidate for POTUS.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 12:55 PM
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30. Media focusing on trying to defeat Hillary right now
If they accomplish that, they'll go after Obama next.

You know they won't touch McCain, he's a Republican.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:00 PM
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31. just a give us a few weeks.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 01:11 PM
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33. He admitted them
Something I've noticed about American mass media: Admitted screw-ups are less interesting than the chance to play "gotcha!".
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:05 PM
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34. I believe it's because everything in life is timing. McCain started
his political career AFTER dumping his first wife for Cindy.
In fact, he has used Cindy's $ to finance everything from day one.

When asked about his first marriage, years ago, he weaseled out of it by simply taking the blame for its break up. Of course he never mentioned his affair with Cindy.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:07 PM
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35. I seriously didn't know about this.
Great news!
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 03:41 PM
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36. I didn't know about this.
Gross.

He must have needed Viagra, surely.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:03 PM
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37. yet.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:12 PM
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38. My ouiji board gives up 3 letters....
M..... S...... M.....
Wierd. Maybe I should try the Magic 8 ball for an answer.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:13 PM
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39. That's just his maverick side
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