Obama's Promises Not Kept....aka....Talk is Cheap,

[amborin]

Business Wire August 6, 2007 Monday 6:42 PM GMT

Obama Vows to Stand Up to Corporate Mega-Farm Lobbyists Who Wield Too Much Influence Over Farm Bill

DATELINE: LE MARS, Iowa

Democratic candidate for president Barack Obama told Iowans today that he'd work with Senator Tom Harkin on the Farm Bill and stand up to the corporate mega-farm lobbyists who have long had too much influence over rural and agriculture policies that have hurt family farmers in Iowa and across America.

"Over the past decade, our government has handed out $1.3 billion in federal farm money to people who aren't even farmers," said Obama. "We've got farm money going to Fortune 500 companies. And get this - we even have the Department of Agriculture paying roughly a billion dollars to more than 170,000 people who aren't even alive. It's a waste of money that makes it harder for family farms to turn a profit and easier for corporate mega-farms to buy them out."

Speaking at town hall events in Le Mars and Sioux City, Senator Obama
said too many Washington politicians have allowed Washington lobbyists to put special interest priorities above national priorities like investing in renewable energy, lowering health care costs and improving the economy in America's rural communities. Obama said the Farm Bill that's being debated in Congress was an important opportunity to change the priorities in Washington, DC.

"When the farm bill comes up in the Senate, I will be fighting to tell all those agribusiness lobbyists that they won't be able to count on the multi-million-dollar subsidies they always get because we're going to put family farmers first," said Obama."




course....Obama couldn't make it to the senate to vote on it after all

[WCGreen]

1. At least he didn't vote present...

Oh well, maybe it wasn't such an important vote...

[MadBadger]

2. Do you have another thread where you can waste it on another anti-Obama story from 2007?

Or are you all out for the night?

[amborin]

3. Obama supporters hate history....it reveals bad things about their candidate

[Radical Activist]

4. You didn't seem to like the history of Obama's pro-labor record

when I posted it on your misleading bullshit thread about Galesburg yesterday. Why didn't you respond to all the high ratings, labor endorsements, and testimonials from labor leaders about how often Obama has stood by them? Why not respond to the real history, troll?

[amborin]

6. because Obama simply doesn't have all those alleged endorsements

[Radical Activist]

10. Change to Win endorsed Obama

They have millions of members.
Wow your lies are easy to debunk.

Here's a link. Something you might try providing once in a while...

http://www.changetowin.org/connect/2008/03/making_the_difference_for_obam.html

[amborin]

18. your lies are easy to debunk

like saying the AFL-CIO had endorsed Obama

NO Such thing

Change to win is the splinter group that broke off from afl/cio and so what...

the major industrial unions have NOT backed Obama

NOT only that, major Industrial Unions, such as IAM have condemnded Obama

and Clinton has LOTS of union support,

one example:

"Clinton is getting major support in Ohio and across the country from the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), representing state and local government employees.

In Ohio, the union has 150,000 members. Other unions backing Clinton have an additional 80,000 members."

[Radical Activist]

22. Obama has a 96% lifetime rating from the AFL-CIO.

I never claimed Obama was endorsed by the AFL-CIO in the Presidential race. He was in his US Senate race and that's a fact. Illinois AFSCME also defied the national union by endorsing Obama in the Presidential race.

Any union member who would support a Clinton that served on the Walmart board after her husband signed NAFTA is a fool.

[amborin]

23. Michelle Obama got $100K a year serving on the board of a WallMart supplier

on top of her regular $200K plus salary

[Radical Activist]

26. And?

Your point being?
Does it change Obama's excellent record?
Does it change Hillary's bad record?

[amborin]

25. LOL, that was only for Illinois, and only b/c Obama's opposition folded

[Radical Activist]

28. what exactly was only for Illinois

that you're claiming? Several things I wrote about were not just for Illinois. You have a real knack for avoiding facts.

[amborin]

30. fact is: organized labor is evenly split for both candidates

and the afl-cio is waiting before it makes any endorsement

[Radical Activist]

31. oh is that a fact?

Because yesterday you wrote that all the unions are supporting Hillary and that Obama doesn't support labor. At least you're getting a little closer to the truth now.

[amborin]

34. here's another fact:

fact is: one of the largest industrial unions in the US does not think very highly of Obama:

PR Newswire

December 31, 2007 Monday 9:08 PM GMT

Machinists President Chides Obama for Maytag Remarks

LENGTH: 261 words

DATELINE: WASHINGTON Dec. 31


WASHINGTON, Dec. 31 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The president of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) is urging Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) to dry his crocodile tears over the loss of more than 1,600 jobs when Maytag moved from Galesburg, IL, to Reynosa, Mexico.

"He didn't lift a finger to help those people when they needed help the most," said IAM President Tom Buffenbarger, whose union represented the workers at Maytag. "Even now, he doesn't have a clue and thinks those jobs went overseas and not to Mexico."

In recent campaign speeches, Sen. Obama has repeatedly cited the plight of Maytag workers in his bid to win sympathy and support from union members battered by factory closings and lost jobs.

"This is the same candidate who recently labeled unions as 'special interest' groups with too much influence in Washington, D.C.," said Buffenbarger. "For the last eight years, we've defended our members' jobs, pensions and health care benefits against a political agenda that's been openly hostile to unions and working families. But a Johnny come lately candidate won't solve the problem facing blue collar families."



anyone who really wants to advance the interests of organized labor would NEVER support a candidate who refers to industrial unions as "special interest groups"

that is BLASPHEMY

straight out of union-busting manuals

[KC]

47. Link

http://www.wdbj7.com/global/story.asp?s=7561667&ClientType=Printable

[Radical Activist]

5. What exactly is your angle?

There's no doubt that Hillary is deep in the pockets of corporate mega-farms and Obama is by far the candidate with a better record on this issue.
Are you a Clinton supporter trying to blur the clear distinctions between the two candidates by distorting the record? Or are you a Republican trying to harm the leading Democrat? Your bullshit is getting old fast.

[MonkeyFunk]

11. It's better than the Clinton smears from 1995 that are posted here

regularly.

[FrenchieCat]

7. You don't seem to know how to provide link.......

while scouring the internet for smears on Obama.

That isn't good, cause certain sources, we don't allow.

[Radical Activist]

9. Maybe all the stories come from Republican websites?

It is odd that that he/she NEVER provides a link to anything. Is it from Drudge? Limbaugh's message board? A Hillary site?

[amborin]

21. those are the ones you frequent?

[rodeodance]

37. Its OBama who used Drudge to smear Clinton

[rodeodance]

36. that so?---many obamafolk posting rush and hannity ect ect as their 'evidence"

[amborin]

8. More Obama Promises to be Broken.....good thing Hillary is winning

The International Herald Tribune

February 29, 2008 Friday

Funds pledge backfires on Obama;
Principles tested as money rolls in;

BYLINE: David D. Kirkpatrick and Jeff Zeleny - The New York Times Media Group

Just 12 months ago, Senator Barack Obama presented himself as an idealistic upstart taking on the Democratic fund-raising juggernaut behind Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

That was when Obama proposed a novel challenge aimed at limiting the corrupting influence of money on the race: If he won the nomination, he would limit himself to spending only the $85 million available in public financing between the conventions and Election Day, as long as his Republican opponent did the same.

Now his challenge to his rivals has boomeranged into a test of Obama's own ability to balance principle and politics in a very different context. After taking in $100 million in donations, the Illinois senator is the one setting fund-raising records, presenting a powerful temptation to find a way out of his own proposal so that he might outspend his Republican opponent. The all-but-certain Republican nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, is short on cash and eager to take up the fund-raising truce.

Obama was notably noncommittal about his previous proposal in the Democratic candidates' debate Tuesday, indicating that he would add new conditions, especially on spending by independent groups, to his previous pledges to accept the deal.

snip

Campaign finance experts said Obama's public equivocations over the fund-raising truce reflected both an early test of his commitment and a first glimpse of what might come in a general election fight between two outspoken champions of public integrity - Obama and McCain.

There is nothing like a fight between two reformers to bring out allegations of hypocrisy.

snip

For Obama, an unwillingness to commit to accept public financing creates the prospect of a conflicting message that rests at the heart of his reform-driven campaign, and already has drawn criticism from McCain.

snip

Indeed, the issue may be more sensitive for Obama, who has run in part on his record as an advocate of stricter rules on government integrity, including the public financing system.

Last February he sought the election commission's blessing on a public financing proposal largely to underscore his support for tighter election rules. (The filing was short of a commitment, but he later went further in a questionnaire from a coalition of government-integrity groups.)

With public financing for the general election phase of the campaign amounting to nearly $10 million a week, it is puzzling to some why Obama is hedging on whether he will opt in.

''You ought to be able to run a campaign for two months on $85 million,'' said Joan Claybrook, president of Public Citizen, which lobbies for stricter campaign finance laws and an expanded public financing system.

She called Obama's recent remarks ''a very bad signal.''

[Cali_Democrat]

12. Hillary is winning?

:rofl:

[KC]

48. Link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23378039/

[amborin]

13. broken promises to those who didn't want nuclear waste in their drinking water:

Los Angeles Times

February 3, 2008

Nuclear energy pulls a big switch;
The industry, which backed the GOP in the past, gives large sums to Obama and Clinton.

BYLINE: Dan Morain, Maloy Moore, Times Staff Writers

Looking back, Joseph Cosgrove said he was naive to think that Sen. Barack Obama could require that nuclear power plant operators publicly disclose any radioactive releases.

Cosgrove and others who live and work in the hamlet of Godley, Ill., sought help after discovering years after the fact that there had been releases from the nearby Braidwood Generating Station.

Two years later, Obama's legislation, lobbied by one of his largest corporate backers, has stalled.

Cosgrove, glimpsing the nuclear industry's sway, said he watched as the bill's "teeth" were removed.

Many references to "nuclear" were stripped. More important, Obama allowed deletion of a provision that nuclear plant operators "shall immediately notify" state and local officials about any release.

The issue is relevant in the 2008 presidential campaign. In an about-face, companies that have a stake in the nuclear energy industry are giving large sums to Democrats running for president, after having showered their money on Republicans in past campaigns.

snip

Obama is the largest beneficiary of money from companies that have a stake in nuclear energy's future. The Braidwood plant's owner, Exelon Corp., has donated $275,000 to Obama over his career.

snip

In 2006, Obama introduced a measure requiring public disclosure whenever there were discharges of radioactivity. His inspiration was the unannounced release of radioactive water from Braidwood, 50 miles from Chicago. The spills were said to have posed no health threat. But there was no disclosure until a lawsuit was filed years later, alarming Godley residents who drink from a shallow aquifer. "We want people to be notified," Cosgrove, 52, said Saturday. He is a director of a park district in Godley that includes a child-care center for 150 children. "Think about it. They had releases and no one was told. How would you like to turn on the tap and think, 'Should I drink this?' "

The weakened bill ultimately stalled in the Senate. The New York Times detailed the saga of the bill this weekend. Obama's aides insisted Saturday that the senator was stymied by what had been a Republican-controlled Senate in 2006. He since has reintroduced the legislation -- in its weakened version.

Elizabeth Moler, who oversees Exelon's lobbying operation, said the company opposed the bill as it was introduced. But after working with Obama's staff, the company has "committed to Sen. Obama that we will support it."

snip

The bulk of Obama's nuclear energy-related money, $190,000, has come from Exelon's employees. The Chicago-based company is the nation's largest nuclear power plant operator, with 10 facilities representing 20% of the nation's nuclear energy.

[Radical Activist]

14. Still no link?

Where did you find this? Free Republic?

[amborin]

15. troubled about Obama's record?

[Radical Activist]

17. Just tired of trolls.

I haven't seen you post anything accurate about Obama's record yet.
How's that link coming? Find it yet?

[amborin]

19. anyone who provides info you don't like is a troll, LOL

[Radical Activist]

24. You're not providing information.

You make ridiculous false claims and then lamely refuse to defend them.

[amborin]

27. the evidence is there in the articles....just read the little marks

[Radical Activist]

29. I'd like to read the parts you cut out

because I'm guessing they tell a different story. How about a link?

[amborin]

32. go ahead and read them...they're not telling anything different

i've said repeatedly that it's not possible to copy links using lexisnexis

go get the articles yourself, the citation is there in each post

[rodeodance]

38. yes, her watered down a nuclear leak bill and got $$$ for this campaign!

[KC]

46. Link

http://www.latimes.com/business/investing/la-na-nuke3feb03,1,4380799.story

[KC]

49. Delete

duplicate link

[donheld]

16. Your post is useless without link

[amborin]

20. not useless at all...go look it up yourself

it's not possible to copy links from lexisnexis

but the citations are there in the post

go look them up, you have computer access, no?

[donheld]

41. It's your job to prove what you say

Like is said your post is useless.

[rodeodance]

39. This is NOT LBN

[SunsetDreams]

33. Link?

To where he didn't make it to the senate to vote?

Also link to the article please, thank you

[amborin]

35. look at the post, please

it is not possible to copy links when using lexisnexis

the citations are in the post, please go to the article yourself

[rodeodance]

40. R

[Seeker30]

42. What do pesky little facts matter

when a person such as Obama is doing us such an honor as to lead us. We all should be on our knees kissing the ground he walks on.

[Justice Is Comin]

43. Oh man, welcome to the wagon train amborin.

You just added to the laundry list of obamamoffs tight wire fence walking. More proof he's a phony double talker.

Nice research.

[anamandujano]

51. Agree. Very nice work amborin.

[Iceburg]

44. Obama missed 41% of the votes during the current congress

He missed almost all of the agriculture/farming related votes.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/missed/

Bottom line: He's been a senator for 2 years and has only showed up to vote 59% of the time ...too busy making promises he has no intention of keeping.

[moobu2]

52. He was trying not to leave a paper trail.

[DemGa]

45. The right-wing would NAIL this guy -- he would be utterly ruined---nt

[KC]

50. kick

nt