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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:44 AM
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Andrew Sullivan: The Clintons, a horror film that never ends
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article3510778.ece

It’s alive! We thought it might be over but some of us never dared fully believe it. Last week was like one of those moments in a horror movie when the worst terror recedes, the screen goes blank and then reopens on green fields or a lover’s tender embrace. Drained but still naive audiences breathe a collective sigh of relief. The plot twists have all been resolved; the threat is gone; the quiet spreads. And then . . .

Put your own movie analogy in here. Glenn Close in the bathtub in Fatal Attraction – whoosh! she’s back at your throat! – has often occurred to me when covering the Clintons these many years. The Oscars host Jon Stewart compares them to a Terminator: the kind that is splattered into a million tiny droplets of vaporised metal . . . only to pool together spontaneously and charge back at you unfazed.

The Clintons have always had a touch of the zombies about them: unkillable, they move relentlessly forward, propelled by a bloodlust for Republicans or uppity Democrats who dare to question their supremacy. You can’t escape; you can’t hide; and you can’t win. And these days, in the kinetic pace of the YouTube campaign, they are like the new 28 Days Later zombies. They come at you really quickly, like bats out of hell. Or Ohio, anyway.

-snipped - a whole bunch of interesting and entertaining stuff from Sullivan -

One is reminded of the words of Bob Dylan: “And here I sit so patiently / Waiting to find out what price / You have to pay to get out of / Going through all these things twice.”
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:47 AM
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1. I don't understand why Sullivan is allowed as a source here
he's no better than Larry Elder, and a thread referencing him was locked toute-suite.

Oh... but Elder attacked Obama... I see now.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:24 AM
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3. I agree. I find the forked-tongue neocon less believable than banned sources.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 06:24 AM by Maribelle
It is in the forked-tongue neocon's contradiction of his own words where I found his is even less trustworthy then his contradictions pretend.

This guy is a fraud that spits into the wind.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:29 AM
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9. I am sure Her Majesty would approve
All dissenting viewpoints should be suppressed
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:59 AM
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17. The fact is
other right-wing sources are routinely locked.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:17 AM
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2. Clinton haters always think everyone feels the same way as they. It's part of the delusion.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 06:18 AM by Perry Logan
But in fact, normal people like the Clintons just fine.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:27 AM
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6. Actually, lots of normal people don't like Clinton
just as lots of normal people don't like Obama. There's a difference between not liking and hate.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:36 AM
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14. Talkin about Clintophobes. It's a nightmare for them...so they think it's a nightmare for everyone.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:25 AM
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4. I would never stoop to posting
right wing creeps like Sullivan and Morris. And I find this piece sexist and ugly- particularly the "Fatal Attraction" crap.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:27 AM
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7. I suppose that makes me an "uppity" Democrat
You are confirming what Sullivan wrote quite nicely. Why, how can I dare be against Her Royal Majesty?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:29 AM
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10. No. It makes you someone willing to go into the gutter
with right wing creeps, because you don't have the ability to cogently criticize Clinton yourself, or find thoughtful articles. This piece is misogynistic and hateful. It does not contain anything thoughtful. It's just bile.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:31 AM
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11. Really? I guess all Replicans are the enemy, huh?
Here we go with that red state-blue state anachronistic Dick Morris-Bill Clinton thinking.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:58 AM
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16. No. Not all repubs are the enemy
but Andrew Sullivan is a hateful little creep and right wingers are not people who should be used as reliable commnentators.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:44 AM
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22. Have you even read Sullivan the past few years?
He's been bashing Bush more than Hillary, that's for sure.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:26 AM
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5. Topic also here:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:28 AM
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8. shoot
I usually do a search before posting. Sorry about that, but since it was a day or so ago I guess I'll leave it up to the mods.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:33 AM
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12. I'll never forgive Sullivan for being a shill for George W. Bush.
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 06:33 AM by terrya
Fuck Andrew Sullivan. I agree with MonkeyFunk...Sullivan shouldn't be cited around here.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:35 AM
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13. So you disagree with Sullivan about everything?
Or, more likely, just some things.

I posted this because it eloquently (and I think you will admit he is a hellova good writer) says what I have been thinking. I could care less about his politics.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 06:55 AM
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15. Mods - please lock - sorry - I duped by accident (x)
x
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:27 AM
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19. Sullivan has
been trashing Bush for over 3 years now. Just an fyi
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:41 AM
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21. Yes, I am aware of that but to know nothings it doesn't matter
Andrew Sullivan = Republican = Evil
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:44 AM
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23. Lots of conservatives have trashed Bush
it doesn't make them reputable liberals.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:25 AM
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18. Kick
:kick:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:28 AM
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20. K & R !!!
:kick:
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