Deleting as it really was a dumb post.

[helderheid]

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[Fresh_Start]

1. She promised her constituents that she would serve out

her full Senate term of office.

[Exilednight]

3. She promised them that with her second term. n/t

[Fresh_Start]

8. she made that promise in 1999

for her first campaign

[Exilednight]

10. and her second one. What i'm saying is that she made the promise both times.

[Nine]

2. because she promised to serve out her full senate term

Obama made the same promise but lied

[graywarrior]

4. Why didn't the Clinton's support Kerry in 2004?

Because they knew Hillary would run in 2008. They've been planning this since forever.

[msmcghee]

6. I don't remember that. Once Kerry was nominated . .

. . did the Clintons oppose him and support Bush? Or what?

[graywarrior]

9. No, they just didn't really do anything to help like they're doing now.

They are self serving.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. thats not true.

[msmcghee]

20. They are self-serving because they . .

. . are not doing anything to help Obama get elected right now?

Is this an example of the logic that lies behind your choice for nominee?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. bill clinton had jsut got out of surgery and he still campaigned for kerry

earlier than his doctors wished him too

when kerry's campaign as senator in MA was in trouble, bill campaigned heavily for him


please dont believe this mis-truths before looking up the facts. a simple google search woudl really help.

[MonkeyFunk]

11. Don't lie

they did support Kerry. Bill even stumped for him right after his open heart surgery.

[graywarrior]

12. I'm not lying. It's my opinion.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

14. your opinion should have atleast some iota of a fact check.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. Your opinion on facts?

Bill Clinton DID stump for Kerry right after his open heart surgery. That's not a matter of opinion.

[msmcghee]

21. That's what the Intelligent Design folks say. n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. come on gray......you're better then this. Here are pictures.......

..


William Jefferson Clinton was under the knife only seven weeks ago.



John Kerry and Bill Clinton at a rally in Philadelphia
Democrats hope even a weakened Bill Clinton can aid John Kerry
Quadruple heart bypass surgery has left him thin and drawn. He looks all of his 58 years.

But in Philadelphia on Monday, he took the stage next to the Democratic challenger for the presidency, Senator John Kerry.

As he looked out over an enraptured crowd, you could see a flicker of the old Clinton - one of America's most formidable and magnetic political campaigners.

"If this isn't good for my heart, I don't know what is," he said.

Mr Clinton's speech was brief. Apparently, he tires easily.

He rattled off a series of statistics that he said showed how the American economy had suffered during four years of a Bush administration - more Americans without jobs and health care, fewer educational and after-school programmes for disadvantaged children.

He ticked off some of the key policies of the Kerry campaign platform, and he dwelled on the Democrats' opposition to the Bush administration's programme of tax cuts.

Hoping for fizz

All this felt slightly cursory. But when he began talking about the big ideas, about America's role and posture in the world, his rhetorical gift returned for a moment.

A Kerry administration, he said, would bring back "a country and a world of shared responsibilities... where we co-operate when we can, and act alone only when we need to".

[graywarrior]

23. Apparently not.

Amazing how fast we fall when we disagree.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. they did support kerry. clinton got out of surgery to help kerry,

please dont distort the facts about this.

[msmcghee]

5. If I remember correctly, the pundits were saying that . .

. . a 2008 presidential run was possible - and that the added years of experience would be good for her to have before running for the top of the ticket.

It wasn't such a dumb post. Good question.

[Emit]

7. in 2003 Mark Penn ... polled to find out whether Clinton could break her pledge...and run for POTUS

~snip~

Hillary Clinton is viewed through the lens of her larger ambition—and ambition is definitely there. Though she has always downplayed the issue, Clinton apparently flirted with running for the presidency in the 2004 election. According to one insider, in 2003 Mark Penn had created a unit within the polling firm of Penn, Schoen & Berland so clandestine that most of the staff didn’t even know it existed. It operated in a room whose computers had been disconnected from the company’s network. Penn polled to find out whether Clinton could break her pledge to serve a full term in the Senate and still maintain enough political viability to run for president. (Penn wouldn’t confirm—or deny—this episode, and said he believed that “at no time was she ever leaning in that direction.”) Ultimately, of course, she chose not to. But she must have been tempted. “Some very important people were coming to her on bended knee asking her to run,” a close friend of Clinton’s told me. “That was the phrase she used: ‘on bended knee.’”

~snip~

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary

[11 Bravo]

18. It can't have been that dumb, or it would have been rec'd to the Greatest page.

[helderheid]

19. !

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