Chuck Todd: Obama ahead of Clinton in delegates from JUST primary states...

[scheming daemons]

Obama's lead in states that held primaries:

1088 to 1074

Obama' lead in states that held caucuses:

290 to 149



Clearly... caucuses have been better than primaries for Obama.... but even when JUST primaries are counted, Obama STILL has the delegate lead...however small.


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

[BumRushDaShow]

1. K&R

:kick:

[Mooney]

2. Watch the rationalizations pour in

for how 1074 is a higher number than 1088.

[otohara]

4. Damn That Math

can't spin it!

[scheming daemons]

6. This would be a GREAT SNL skit....if they weren't in the tank for Hillary....

...

"Damn that MATH!"


Kinda like the one they did with Huckabee at the news desk.

[papau]

9. nah - but do not mention the overallocation of delegates to loyal in the past areas - like AA areas

and don't mention vote totals.

[Yes We Did]

12. Just wait for it.... Wait for it.... Wait for it.....

[Barack_America]

3. B-but, those primary states were too small! Too black! Too red!

The fact they didn't vote for Hillary clearly shows that something undemocratic is going on there!

[kstewart33]

5. But those are tiny, boutique states! nt

[catgirl]

7. But somehow Hillary will still try to spin this

Obama is going to be the nominee. Hillary should drop out
for the good of the party.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

8. these states are not states. they don't count. the voters were drunk. you can be my VP.

[David Zephyr]

10. And there's not way she can overcome his numbers with the few contests left.

#1 in popular votes (more than 600,000)
#1 in pledged delegates (approaching 150 more)
#1 in number of states won (more than twice)
#1 in caucuses held

And now you report here that Obama is also:

#1 in primary contests

[krkaufman]

11. Notch one more media spin victory for the Clinton campaign

The mere fact that such a distinction is being discussed indicates that the Clinton campaign's denigration of caucuses has been successful. They're one step closer to overriding Obama's pledged delegate majority.

Which, of course, will be supremely ironic.... since they're arguing that primaries are more democratic in order to leverage the most undemocratic aspect of the primary process, the superdelegates, to override Obama's pledged delegate majority.

[PseudoIntellect]

18. Exactly! Caucuses are obviously FAR more democratic than superdelegates. (except under HRC logic)

[Drunken Irishman]

13. Chuch Todd is a fat butt poopy head.

[Cha]

19. chuckie todd is a little man who needs to

manipulate for the m$$$m or he doesn't have a job.

[ossman]

14. Caucus delegates... are you fucking kidding me Hillary?

This chick is up to her ears in Bullshit.

[Scurrilous]

15. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Lucky 13]

16. Sexism! n/t

[ossman]

21. Yeah, I wonder what the Hillary "I'm the victim" issue will be this week.

Spitzor stole Hill's media for when she cries tonite. It is the night before a vote you know. Boo Hoo

[Medusa]

17. There goes another HRC talking point

damn!

[StevieM]

20. But the election isn't close to over. States still to come:

Pennsylvania
Guam
North Carolina
Indiana
West Virginia
Kentucky
Oregon
Montana
South Dakota
Puerto Rico

Probably Michigan and Florida. Oh and Hillary already won Florida by 17 points (I know, poor Barack wasn't allowed to outspend her by 5 to 1).

When all is said and done Hillary will have more pledged delegates from primaries.

Steve

[ossman]

23. Huh? She will only win 2 of those on your little list.

[stop the bleeding]

25. Get Real - IT'S OVER

However I appreciate your moxie and enthusiasm, I applaud your efforts.:beer:

[scheming daemons]

26. No... she really won't.....

She'll have gains in PA, WV, and KY...

He'll have gains in NC, OR, SD, MT, IN

Guam and PR are too close to call.


If MI and FL revote.... he'll have gains in MI, she'll have gains in FL.


In the end, he'll STILL have more pledged delegates from Primaries.

[StevieM]

30. I disagree about IN, MT, OR, MI, Guam and PR. And I don't think he will have more

pledged delegates from primaries.

Steve

[mohc]

22. It does not matter how often we post this stuff.

I posted the primary vs caucus numbers last week in response to a thread about Obama's unfair caucus advantage. I still see people saying he has lost primaries. A thread the other day stated "OBAMA HAS YET TO WIN A CLOSED PRIMARY". But Obama has won more closed primaries than Clinton has (5-4). They believe if they keep repeating the lies that people will just accept them as truth, and I think they may be correct. Not that I believe we should leave the false assertions unchallenged, but I believe that alone is not enough. We need to be more proactive in stating just how substantial Obama's lead really is.

[Major Hogwash]

24. On to Denver!!! It's going to be awesome in Denver in August - come out to Denver this summer!!

It's clean air, good food, and good times.
We're even going to have some fun this year.
Come one, come all.

[IDemo]

27. But those delegates are up for grabs now, if you ask Hillary

They were, then they weren't, now they are...stay tuned tomorrow.

Hillary Clinton: Pledged Delegates Can Switch Candidates

[K Gardner]

28. I can't wait for SOMEONE to slam the Clinton surrogates with this when they

start whining about caucuses again. "Hillary wins the primaries", my ass.

[4_Legs_Good]

29. Yow!

Smart idea to run those numbers. I never even considered it!

Wooo hooo, one more dumb argument out the window.

David