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Mon Mar-10-08 12:30 PM
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Obama refuses the "dream ticket" --->>> rough transcript of his remarks |
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 12:46 PM by Stephanie
From Obama's remarks just now at a campaign rally aired on MSNBC:
With all due respect. I have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton. I have won more of the popular vote than Senator Clinton. I have more delegates than Senator Clinton. So I don't know how someobody who's in second place is offering the Vice Presidency to someone who's in first place. If I was in second place I could understand. But I'm winning.
But there's a second point. Bill Clinton in '92, when asked about his selection for VP, he said the only criteria is that the person is ready to be commander in chief. That was his criteria. Now they spent the last 2-3 weeks, with that ad with the phone call, saying "we're not sure he's ready." So I don't understand. If I'm not ready, how is that they think I'd be such a great VP? Do you understand that?
Let me be clear. I'm not running for Vice President. I'm running for President of the United States.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:31 PM
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spoken with true class and grace!
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:33 PM
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2. "I'm not running for Vice President. I'm running for President of the United States. I want it all.. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:52 PM
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31. Is that a Hillary quote? |
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"Don't care how I want it nooooooowwwwwwww!!!!"
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:16 PM
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40. Somehow, I don't remember the "I want it all, dammit" |
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being anything that he actually said.
Maybe you're projecting Hillary's wish to add illegally gained delegates from MI onto his statement?
Last I checked, both Obama and Clinton are running for 'President of the United States', so I have zero problem with him slapping down a bizarre talking point that he should accept a VP slot - especially when the profferer is talking out of the other side of her mouth that he's not ready for leadership.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:33 PM
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Way to go, Barack! Put the ball back in her court and make her explain!
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:33 PM
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4. Lol. At this point, how much respect is "due"? |
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He could basically trash her on stage for an hour and still be giving her "due" respect. It's certainly more respect than she's shown him.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:45 PM
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23. He's been very gracious with her |
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She's has belittled him and his achievements throughout the campaign. Though he's gone negative now and then, he's always been respectful of her accomplishments.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:34 PM
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5. Since he has the most votes until now, he´s right! |
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:34 PM
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6. Just listening now, IOW, Kiss MY Butt Hillary! |
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:34 PM
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:46 PM
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drove past your house around 4pm, my dad is here we leave for Hamburg tomorrow. Hope to catch up with you on Friday afternoon for coffee and cake to celebrate the end of my ZD Prüfung!
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:53 PM
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32. Bon Voyage! ... taking the train? |
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Fingers crossed for you :-)
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:02 PM
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33. ICE, ICE, baby! Tchibo vouchers. :) |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:07 PM
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the scenery, the comfy seats, and the Bistro!
and eat something fishy while you´re in Hamburg. :-)
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:08 PM
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:10 PM
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36. Why YES! ... as long as the sun is shining. |
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Send a line when you return. :-)
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:34 PM
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7. I hope this quashes the Nightmare ticket talk once and for all |
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but it won't here, of course.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:35 PM
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9. Mods, looks like Stephanie discoverd a bug in the DU software |
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See the ">> rough transcript of his remarks "> " at the top of the page. Apparently caused by the "--->>>" in the post title
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:37 PM
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what are you talking about?
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:44 PM
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21. Click on the first post and look at the very top of the page |
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It also messes up the post title in "my DU".
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:45 PM
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weird - the < must be summoning up some html artifact
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:49 PM
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29. Yea, it translates into a malformed html comment.. |
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<!-- google_ad_section_start --> Becomes.. <!-- google_ad_section_start --><title>Democratic Underground - Obama refuses the "dream ticket" ---> and breaks the <title> tag.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:39 PM
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14. I'm so PROUD of Mr. Obama .... |
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He is so polite .... What class! "I'm running for President" .... Had it been John McCain or Dick Cheney, they would've said ... "Tell Hillary to go f*%#x herself". ROFLMAO!!
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:40 PM
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15. Stephanie inserted those marks. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:42 PM
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:46 PM
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25. I noticed that when I used the offending character in a subject line |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:15 PM
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38. He Should Not Drop Out Yet Anyway |
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He has came this far he may as well stay in for another cycle before bowing out.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:37 PM
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11. Who will be the first to call him arrogant? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:38 PM
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12. But Obama's popular vote lead depends on excluding Florida and Michigan. |
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Which is why the Obama campaign does not want new primaries in Florida and Michigan.
They want to play for time and run out the clock, until it's too late to re-do FL & MI.
If Obama is our nominee, McCain will face a much easier ride in Florida, Michigan and Ohio.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:41 PM
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16. And you must think "popular" vote includes places... |
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1. Where you're the only name on the ticket (!!!!); OR 2. No one campaigned.
Nice definition. Maybe, in the future we should let this type of "popular" vote decide all elections. It will SAVE a lot of money, time and effort!
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:42 PM
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If you counted the uncommitteds as Obama votes in Michigan he'd still be ahead.
You can't count her votes and give him zero...that is completely unfair. If you are going to count Michigan in the popular vote you at least have to give him the uncommitteds.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:46 PM
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26. Polls have Obama and Clinton tied in MI right now. |
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As for Florida and Ohio, who gives a shit about them anymore? I don't see the point of throwing $millions at the two states with the most jacked-up elections systems, that are probably going to be stolen by the GOP anyway. The FL legislature is talking about a bill to remove the Dem candidate's name from the ballot if the delegates don't get seated. I say let them do it. That way our party won't even waste its time there and will focus on more promising states like VA and CO.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:39 PM
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13. Another misstep along the way of a horribly botched campaign. |
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Who is driving that Hillary bus and do we really want any of those people in WH?
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:42 PM
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17. Hillary supporters: "why is he so uppity? There are perfectly good seats at the back of the bus.." |
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Mon Mar-10-08 03:33 PM
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43. Because we already had, like, a whole bunch of women Presidents. |
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Out of 43, it must be something like ... zero? :eyes:
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:44 PM
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20. Oh SNAP! "Do You Understand That?" |
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This is where he knocks her the fuck out:
But there's a second point. Bill Clinton in '92, when asked about his selection for VP, he said the only criteria is that the person is ready to be commander in chief. That was his criteria. Now they spent the last 2-3 weeks, with that ad with the phone call, saying "we're not sure he's ready. So I don't understand. If I'm not ready, how is that they think I'd be such a great VP? Do you understand that?
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:44 PM
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22. Through the looking glass and down the rabbit hole |
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In Hillary's world of delusion and doublespeak.
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:47 PM
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28. Now she's saying he could be ready this summer.... |
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Mon Mar-10-08 12:50 PM
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“We do not believe that Senator Obama has passed the commander in chief test,” said Wolfson. “But there is a long way between now and Denver.”
He did not say what Obama might be able to do to get ready in the months before the Democratic convention this August.
In response, Obama spokesman Bill Burton e-mailed reporters the quote, along with the Clinton campaign press office number, and urged journalists to call and ask them what Wolfson’s statement “could possibly mean.”
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:17 PM
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42. Obama should point out that he has spent more time on the national stage |
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Than Bill Clinton had when he ran for president. By Hillary's own logic, Bill was a poor choice in '92.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:13 PM
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37. What He Fails To Realize, Is That In The End Of It All It May Not Be Up To Him. |
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If talks are needed and it is the party position (based on several things falling into place over the next few weeks) that Hillary should be at the top of the ticket, then it won't be up to him as to whether or not he gets that top spot or is convinced to take the VP slot.
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