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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:21 PM
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Repugs Heart Hillary - She wins them 3:1 over Obama (Mississippi EXIT POLL)
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 07:30 PM by jefferson_dem
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:23 PM
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1. thanks Rush. if you find yourself voting like rush wants, you might be voting incorrectly
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:23 PM
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2. Are these votes FOR her policies, or to make her McCain's opponent?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 07:23 PM by LSparkle
Limpballs strategery, part two?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:25 PM
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5. I'd guess the latter is more likely.
Just a guess, though.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:24 PM
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3. Hillary can always count on the rethug vote.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:27 PM
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7. Well what about all the Obama folks here @ DU happy that Obama was getting the Rethug vote.
Now it is bad to get the rethug vote?

I'm confused.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:29 PM
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10. me too, isn't this suppose to be a good thing, getting all these disaffected repugs?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 07:29 PM by MassDemm
Who really wanted to be dems all along.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:14 PM
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37. These aren't "disaffected Rethugs"
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 09:19 PM by Obamaniac
These are Republicans who want to run against Hillary Clinton because they feel she will be easier to beat.

Obama will win tonight, if those numbers are correct, by a 60% to 40% margin. But if those Republicans hadn't voted, he would have beaten her by more than two-to-one.

It should show you who the GOP think is easier to beat. It also sickens me that our primaries are being manipulated in such a way by people who do not want to be part of our process and possibly support our candidate, but use our open rules to elect the candidate they think they can win against.

If Clinton supporters can't see this then they are blind.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:46 PM
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18. Two significant differences:
1. That was before the Republicans had picked a nominee. Now that McCain has the nomination, they have no special reason to vote for a GOP candidate - any GOP candidate.

2. I don't recall the RW talk radio hosts urging their Republican listeners to vote strategically for Obama, whereas they seem to be actively campaigning for Hillary now.

Aw darn - she still can't win.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:56 PM
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23. John McCain was going to be the winner after Florida, how early was the Florida race, pretty early.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:47 PM
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19. Its good to get disaffected pubs
Its bad to get dishonest pubs.

Theres a difference. I would love to see reformed criminals rejoin society. I do not love to see Scooter Libby rejoin society.

Be honest with yourself for just the next 60 seconds. You know you are wrong. Deal with it, apologize to your bruised moral sense, and get right with yourself. Then you can go back and do whatever fatalistic duty requires you to support Hillary anyway.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 PM
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25. No, it doesn't work that way, sorry. I am not saying I like repugs voting in our primary
but you obviously do, but only when it affects positively for your candidate.

So why don't you return to your fatalisitc support of Obama.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:13 PM
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27. I like Pubs who could be brought to become Democrats
Obviously you only want those "birthright" Dem's. Only one of my parents is a dem... do I qualify?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:51 PM
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29. Now you're talking something completely different. Repugs
who crossover to affect the primary are what I am talking about.

You cannot seperate the ones who do it for Obama and the ones who do it for Hillary.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:05 PM
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31. Actually, you can
Its pretty simple. Those who consistantly show up are more likely legit. Those who suddenly show up AFTER the pub nominee is chosen are less likely so.

Logic and percentages. A stats class makes it all much easier to interpret.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:08 PM
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35. The hypocrisy of Obamanation has no limits
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:25 PM
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4. Open primary, Limbaugh effect.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:26 PM
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6. Wow, she got 59% of the white independent. I thought y'all said she couldn't get that.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:27 PM
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8. Limbots who didn't want to admit to their repugness.
Bah...
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:29 PM
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9. You should clarify that this is Mississippi only. He has had more in TX and equal in OH.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:30 PM
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11. She should get used to Repub adoration. Its the only place she'll have to go after the dems kick her
to the curb.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:11 PM
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26. And the kicking can't happen soon enough for me
enough is enough.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:31 PM
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12. And for those Clinton supporters who want to say Obama draws Republicans too
Take a look at when Hillary started getting Republican support. When Republicans know your candidate whom they hate is so weak that it unites them to vote for them in hopes of destroying them in the general, then it's time to cut and run.

Rp
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:33 PM
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13. I hope this just goes to show you that repugs would have never voted for O in the general. nt
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:47 PM
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20. Now there's an illogical statement if I ever saw one.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:48 PM
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22. how so?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:07 PM
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33. You forget that their *conjecture* is selective.
That is, if Republicans vote for Obama in the primaries, it is honest and geniune and they love Obama.

If they vote for Hillary they're just fucking with the vote.
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:34 PM
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14. Right. Most Repugs vote for Obama because they want him to beat McCain in November
Most Repugs vote for Hillary so she will lose to McCain in November.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:36 PM
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16. Honestly stick your head in the sand a bit further.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:36 PM
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15. Hillary's been calling Obama too liberal this week.
I guess that got H. Clinton some idiot votes.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:38 PM
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17. You really lose your mind on primary nights don't you?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:48 PM
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21. Well, her policies are their policies.
NT!

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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:05 PM
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24. KICK
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:19 PM
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28. She's locked up the "we hate Dems" vote
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#MSDEM

Has Clear Plan for Country's Problems? 15% say "Neither" and 70% of them voted for Clinton
Opinion of John McCain? 13% say "Strongly Favorable" and 74% of them voted for Clinton
Who Inspires You About Future of Country? 11% say "Neither" and 84% of them voted for Clinton
Vote by Ideology: 9% say "Very Conservative" and 55% of them voted for Clinton

So if you don't like the Democratic candidates or Democratic viewpoints, you tend vote for Clinton. It looks like about 10% of the voters are "Limbaugh Clinton Supporters". At least that's how I read the exit polls.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:52 PM
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30. Rush told them to do it
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:05 PM
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32. lol let's see them spin this one.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:08 PM
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34. The hypocrisy is astounding. When obama was winning rethugs Obamites cheered it
They cited it as proof Obama was a "uniter" and more electable. Now Hill does it and they are using it to attack her.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:13 PM
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36. Please. Do you honestly think these Rethugs have the same motivation as those earlier Rethugs?
There's clearly a difference in

1. Cross-overs who voted for a Democratic candidate because they genuinely like him/her

and

2. Cross-overs who are following Limpball's orders to stoke division by screwing up the Democratic nomination process
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:18 PM
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38. Yes: to hurt the Democratic party
From Iowa to Wisconsin it was in the rethug interest to push forward the weaker of the two candidates. However on 3/4 the calculus changed. It would be good for them to keep the fight going to 4/22 and rethugs who had been strategically voting for Obama switched to Clinton. He still won the rethug vote in Ohio and Texas, although Obama's machine continues to pretend otherwise.

You are ignoring the variable that determined almost all the votes in MS: skin color. Blacks voted for the black guy 90-10. Whites voted for the white candidate 74-21. Which skin color do almost all rethugs have? Exit polls from some other southern states will show the same thing. Exits in non-southern states where there isn't racial voting among whites have Obama almost always winning rethugs, including 75-21 in Missouri which flipped the state to him.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:36 PM
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41. Pro-Hillary blog mydd agrees. Look at the motivation. Either Limbots or racists. Take your pick.
...

The real story here is Clinton's performance among Republicans though. This is the first open primary since John McCain secured the nomination, so it makes sense that they would participate in the Democratic primary in larger than normal numbers (Republicans represented about 9% of the Dem primary electorate in the last 3 open contests in Wisconsin, Texas and Ohio) but going for Hillary by more than 50%? What made her Republican support in TX and Ohio so surprising was that she had closed the gap to a single digit deficit or a tie, but here she is well ahead. I was skeptical of the right-wing campaign to turn out for Hillary Clinton so that the battle for the Democratic nomination would drag out even longer, supposedly meant to help John McCain (John, who?), but today's results make it difficult to ignore. Although, the more insidious side of what may have motivated these Republicans to vote for Hillary against Barack is that the racist vote may have been alive and well.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/11/212454/941#commenttop
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:21 PM
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39. fine. prove it.

besides, of course, that it simply must be that way in your personal opinion.


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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:21 PM
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40. Mississippi doesn't count--it's got too many black people
:sarcasm:
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Zeebo Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:36 PM
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42. If I were a Repub AND the Repub nominee was set, I would crossover...
To vote for Hillary. Weakest opponent. Plus even if she can't win, you hope for BO and HC beat each other up.

Imagine what Obama's win % would be if only Dems and Independents were voting.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:41 PM
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43. That's why the white vote is so inflated towards her.
MSNBC is trying to extrapolate the white vote for Obama in PA from the results in Mississippi WITHOUT mentioning it's an open primary and a lot of Republicans voted for Hillary.

Pennyslvania is a closed primary.

Incidentally; I think Ferraro's comment was calculated to play off the racism in rural PA.
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