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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:48 PM
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Analyst on MSNBC: Clinton Campaign Defending Ferraro
If the Clinton campaign continues to defend Ferraro...it's now clear to me that they're attempting to woo the bigot vote in PN. If that is true...well fuck that scum of a campaign and to think I was even thinking about voting for Clinton because of her toughness (if Obama didn't get the nom of course). Fuck that shit...you'll have to put a gun to my head before I vote for a bunch of bigot defenders!!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:49 PM
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1. Wow, they act just like the Bush Administration. Stubborn as Mules. nt
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:49 PM
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2. That segment with Howard Fineman said it all
"The Clinton campaign doesn't want to change the tone. This is the argument they want to have ... "

:argh:

I AGREE WITH SAMANTHA POWER!
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:49 PM
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3. That is so disturbing.
Honestly, I am somewhat stunned by this.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:56 PM
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13. They are playing to white racism
Pandering to Obama by offering him a seat in the back of their bus, saying he wouldn't be where he is if he were white. And the racists just lap it up and vote for Hillary.
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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:07 PM
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24. I'm not stunned. Hillary loves power more than any principles.
Hillary gives monsters a bad name.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:12 PM
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29. why is it ok to repeat what powers got fired for and be pissed a/bwhat ferraro should be tossed for?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 08:13 PM by annie1
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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:20 PM
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34. Because Hillary has shown herself to have a monstrous soul
Monster is one of the nicer things I'd call Hillary tonight.

Ferraro is appealing to the darker angels of people's natures, feeding any racist tendencies they might have. It's sick and vile.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:51 PM
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4. Can't believe Maggie Williams is defending Ferraro's defense(!) When does it stop?
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 07:51 PM by democrat2thecore
and WHAT are they thinking??? If Hillary were to run the WH like this campaign - she would be a close #2 on the worst president list.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:54 PM
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10. what did williams say?
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 PM
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16. Fineman just said a few minutes ago he was told that Williams had issued a statement
and used the words I did, "defending Ferraro's defense."
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:05 PM
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21. i gotta find it. thanks. i love williams, but despise ferraro's comment...
but i have to say, when powers called hillary a monster, which i thought was a really ugly thing to say, i wondered how in the hell such an intelligent person could make such a fucked up statement, so it really turned me off of powers. and i am way more turned off by ferraro. i never was big into ferraro, but now she's just written off. why do these people say such fucked up things, are they losing their minds?
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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:06 PM
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23. Maggie Williams' statement

"In January, NBC’s Tim Russert confronted Senator Barack Obama with a four page memo from his campaign characterizing statements they claimed the Clinton Campaign had made about race. Asked in hindsight whether he regretted pushing this story, Senator Obama said:

"Well, not only in hindsight, but going forward. I think that, as Hillary said, our supporters, our staff, get overzealous. They start saying things that I would not say. And it is my responsibility to make sure that we’re setting a clear tone in our campaign, and I take that responsibility very seriously, which is why I spoke yesterday and sent a message in case people were not clear that what we want to do is make sure that we focus on the issues."

"We agreed then. We agree today. Supporters from both campaigns will get overzealous. Senator Clinton today reiterated that when asked about Geraldine Ferraro’s recent comments:

“I do not agree with that and you know it’s regrettable that any of our supporters on both sides say things that veer off into the personal. We ought to keep this focused on the issues. That’s what this campaign should be about.

"Senator Obama’s campaign staff seems to have forgotten his pledge. We have not. And, we reject these false, personal and politically calculated attacks on the eve of a primary. This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:10 PM
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27. wow, she's a tough lady. i think she's so cool. thanks for the statement...
i still hate ferraro, and if i were hil i would be furious and want to ring ferraro's neck.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:21 PM
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35. That should be its own thread, if is isn't already, Thank you n/t
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 PM
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36. maggie kicks ass. :D
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:51 PM
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5. The Clinton campaign is trying to achieve what it was unable to in
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 08:05 PM by FrenchieCat
South Carolina.....cause they haven't yet figured out that it didn't work that well. They think the won the big states due to a focus on race. They don't yet realize that he didn't win the big states because so many people didn't know who Obama was and voted safe, i.e., the less educated and lower wage earners too busy surviving to pay attention and with no Internet to go and do research.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:54 PM
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11. Well we need to change that
and get busy snail mailing letters to PA newspapers.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:52 PM
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6. Which analyst? I read something different from the HRC campaign...
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:52 PM
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7. The Clinton campaign is advocating and, as far as I'm concerned, encouraging
racism. She is no Democrat and has no place in this party. This goes to the very heart of our party. I have never been so angry at a candidate, because she and her crew are playing to the lowest common denominators in our society in her obsessive need to feed her ego.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:53 PM
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8. I absolutely think that's their strategy
I think they hoped to get some of the bigots out in MS but the Obama campaign didn't buy into that so she had to make it even worse to get everybody's attention.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:53 PM
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9. That is why I said what I said a few days ago - that I would vote
for Nader for POTUS before I would vote for HRC. Not that LITERALLY I would, but I was trying to make a point that the Clintons have become so trashy and vile, as a Democrat, I could not vote for them. Of course my thread was locked..... So much for expressing how you really feel.

How long will it take for HRC to actually denounce what Ferraro said? In less time than Obama accepted a resig from Samantha Powers??????
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:55 PM
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12. I am absolutely disgusted with the Clintons...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 PM by polichick
After Gov. Rendell's remark about some PA whites not voting for a black man, I have to believe that it's a tactical decision not to fire Ferraro ~ playing to a different kind of fear this week.

We're working hard here in PA for Obama ~ I hope this state rises to the occasion and redeems the party.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 PM
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14. If the Clintons harbor that kind of racism
they really need to call it quits right now.
Who cares if some dumbfucks vote for them... that is just bad bad bad.
Bad for us. Bad for the country. Bad for our children. Bad for Dems.
Racism is so wrong... and Hillary is wrong on this.
Hang it up Hill.

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supersonica Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:58 PM
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15. Clinton disagrees with Ferraro's comments
That's all that matters. that's not a defense.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:00 PM
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18. Welcome back, dramatica
Sorry you have to go.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:05 PM
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Has she ousted Ferraro from her campaign yet? If not - she's just trying to have it both ways.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:08 PM
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25. there's not too much reason to keep ferraro on except to try make the comment...
seem not so bad. i'd toss her personally the way obama tossed powers. but can someone tell me why obama supporters are calling hil what powers got fired for, but want ferraro out? i think they were both crazy to make such statements.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:13 PM
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30. Link?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:00 PM
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17. she wants the racism in the kitchen sink..
x(
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:01 PM
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19. If this works be prepared to see some interesting changes in the party of Lincoln
Before FDR, black people loved the Republican party. Their party is already in a state of imbalance ideologically, and could very well change for the better.
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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:01 PM
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20. Bigots vote and their votes count, just like ours do.
Hillary wants votes. She doesn't care where they come from. She'd let David Duke hustle up votes for her if he was interested. She's a desperate and sad person.

Rendell said a few weeks ago that it would be tough for a black man to win in PA. He gave Hillary the playbook. Hillary knows there are plenty of whites who won't vote for a n*gg*r. They are the same idiots she panders to in ads like the 3 a.m. one.

I honestly stopped caring whether Obama can beat McCain. In my heart, I know he's the best qualified and the best suited candidate to serve us as President. If Obama loses because too many people aren't ready for a black man to be President, fine. I'll vote for him and I'll just view him as my President in exile.

Winning with racists isn't what I'm interested in participating in. I'd rather be right and lose than be so very wrong and win.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:05 PM
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22. If she wants to play this kind of campaign
She'll lose.

She'll lose the nomination because super delegates won't stand for race baiting. I'll bet anything that not only are they watching the results, but these kind of nasty comments from Clinton surrogates - and the Clinton camp's reaction. The reaction will be most telling.

Hillary may think she can pander to racists in PA and then somehow win the nomination. But even if she did become the nominee (how I have no clue at this point) she wouldn't have a chance in hell getting anywhere without AA supporters.

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Not the Only One Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:16 PM
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32. She think African Americans will stay on the Democratic plantation.
I would hope African Americans would have the courage to hold the party accountable if they were to nominate Hillary over Obama.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:09 PM
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26. Yep... Carville stuttered his way through an inarticulate defense
even tried to bring up the McClurkin thing.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:11 PM
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28. wow. did no one bite on mcC?
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:14 PM
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31. why doesn't someone from the party make them stop this?
:wow:

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:16 PM
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33. I think Nancy gave Hillary a warning, but it hasn't seemed to help much. nt
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:32 PM
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37. Racism should not be a Dem strategy
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