I find the "O'bama" thing racist and in very poor taste.

[jlake]

I know that I am probably alone in this thought - but it is very disingenuous and extraordinarily insulting.
.... Pandering to the Nth degree.
It's akin to a white candidate putting on black face or some such nonsense.
I know he's from Chicago, and now St. Patrick's Day is coming up... but I just think it is totally inappropriate.

[Pirate Smile]

1. He is part Irish. They have actually traced it back to a specific town in Ireland.

Geez.

[alcibiades_mystery]

82. Obama's not allowed to be Irish cuz he's a Negro, see?

This and other pathetic hits brought to you by the despicable Clinton camp on DU.

[hueyshort]

98. You should be thrown off for spreading that kind of BS crap

[Alexander]

106. Um...post #84 was sarcastic.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

143. "Brock O'Bama", he's a nice creamy "latte" Irish

:spray:

[Teaser]

2. Are you fucking kidding me?

I'm a shamrock green, Gaeilge-speaking Irish bastard. And I could give two shits.

[HughMoran]

29. Beat him with your shalaly

:D

[Teaser]

63. I don't carry a shileighleigh

Real irishmen use swords.

:)

[Thurston Howell III]

88. I think it's spelt shillelagh.

[Teaser]

92. eh, there ain't really an agreed upon spelling for most

Irish words. There is a standardized spelling the government uses, but words are spelled (and pronounced) differently in different counties.

That kind of language fracture is common in suppressed languages.

[Occam Bandage]

94. I've found it's always easier to just write "stick."

(This is, of course, part of the reason gaeilge is moribund.)

[HughMoran]

99. heh nice! ...though a crowbar works much better

:D

[Teaser]

107. moribund? HOW DARE YOU?!?

You're english aren't you?


Seriously, this has been a pretty good 10 years for Irish. It's suddenly become a "status symbol" to educate your children in all-Irish schools.

Irish will never be the dominant language in Ireland, but with luck, it will always be understood and available for code switching.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

144. how abouts some "river dancing" ?

eh?

[roguevalley]

169. I have a blackthorn. Hard enough to crack stones. :)

[Leopolds Ghost]

118. "You tastin' my mutton, Teaser, how you like it! Notch forty-three, you O'Bamish bastid!"

[bicentennial_baby]

3. Except...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/12/AR2007051201551.html

MONEYGALL, Ireland -- Here they call him O'Bama.

Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, Democratic candidate for president, is the talk of this village because recently unearthed records indicate that he is a son of Moneygall.

Stephen Neill, a local Anglican rector, said church documents he has found, along with census, immigration and other records tracked down by U.S. genealogists, appear to show that Obama's great-great-great-grandfather, Fulmuth Kearney, was reared in Moneygall, then left for America in 1850, when he was 19.

Megan Smolenyak, chief family historian for Ancestry.com, an online repository of family history records, said that although no single "smoking gun" document was found, there are about 20 different records that when pieced together make her "absolutely certain" of Obama's Moneygall roots.

[jlake]

15. I see that.... and I find it offensive.

His name is not "O'bama". There may be plenty of Irish folks who think it's cute etc, but my family surely does not.

[Teaser]

24. Why, because it means "Descended from Bama?"

oh man, that is SOOOO offensive.

[OhioBlue]

74. I'm Irish

and if I thought you were serious I would say it was ridiculous.

[dchill]

150. Yeah, jlake, those damn apostrophes...

really offend me t'oo. I'm half Vulcan.
:eyes:

[roguevalley]

171. dchill, if your post doesn't DUzy, there is no god. LOL!

[eShirl]

166. why?

I honestly don't get it.

[roguevalley]

170. same year my great grandpa left Ultster and the same year my

great granny left Germany. What a great year for America. :)

[moc]

4. Oh spare me. I'm Irish and I think it's funny.

Get a grip.

:eyes:

[jlake]

6. I have a grip. I find it extremely offensive.

[bicentennial_baby]

7. Look above

[Pirate Smile]

17. He doesn't care about facts but I'm glad you posted part of the article.

[Pirate Smile]

10. You would find anything he does offensive.

[moc]

14. Why? Are you Irish? O'Bama is.

My maiden name is O'Brien, by the way. I'm happy to call Barack O'Bama my Irish brother.

You seriously need to get a grip.

[jlake]

18. Yes.

[moc]

23. I'm surprised. Most Irish I know have a good sense of humor.

You must have been adopted.

[cali]

38. What part of he's part Irish is so beyond your abilty

to understand? Your OP is breathtakingly stupid- even for you.

[Occam Bandage]

56. BUT HIS NAEM IS NOT AKSHULLY "O'BAMA" HE IS A RACEST

[dchill]

152. LOL! B'reathtakingly funny.

:yourock:

[jlake]

159. .............

:hug:

[Medusa]

52. Let me guess-you just find him offensive in general?

just a guess.

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[Leopolds Ghost]

147. Never mind all o' them Black Irish who are highly regarded kinfolk

Such as my good friend, a Sephardic Irish Jew who is descended from Moroccan refugees of the Spanish Armada...

[panader0]

121. You need a laxative

[roguevalley]

175. Ok. You find it extremely offensive. Therefore, you probably gave

it hours of thought and have paragraphs in your mind that you could share with us. My family is Celtic to the bone, Tyrone and Meath folx. I'm not offended. I am genuinely interested in why you are so offended. Thanks.

[gort]

89. As someone of Scottish ancestry, I don't get the umbrage either

but that may be because the Irish invented kilts, bagpipes and whiskey and sent them over to Scotland as gifts.

The Scots never figured out after drinking all the whiskey that the first two were sent as a joke.

So we Scots can be a bit dense.

[roguevalley]

177. but the scots are loverly, my sweet gort. (great grandpa: Aberdeenshire)

[Kittycat]

90. JLake - our new Proud American

What a waste of a thread :eyes:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. You ARE kidding, right?

Or else maybe you weren't aware that Obama is part Irish on his mother's side?

[jlake]

9. I don't care if he's part Irish. His name isn't "O'bama"

And he sees to have a claim on just about every race, nationality, ethnicity and "home state" ... it gets tiresome.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. But how is it "racist" for him to acknowledge his Irish roots?

Obama is of mixed heritage; why shouldn't he be proud of it? Or are you saying that because he's half African he can't mention the other half? Isn't THAT racist?

[Kahuna]

41. I'm black. I put an O' in front of my name for St Pat's day. I have Irish

ancestors. What's the big deal?

[jlake]

44. Think about that for a moment in the context of some of the accusations

going around.

[Occam Bandage]

51. LMAO. Ah, the last refuge of the internet scoundrel.

"Um...I was meta-posting. I was making a point. Nobody got it."

[jlake]

57. Um, I think a few have gotten it.

[Occam Bandage]

67. Most everyone here got it.

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[roguevalley]

178. so you have offense. explain it then. For all of us micks that don't

get it.

[Kahuna]

80. WGAF????? I think for myself. I do not care what you or anybody else thinks.

I'm part Irish and I'm black. It happens a lot. Too bad if you don't like it.

[unapatriciated]

122. It does happen a lot.

I have met many blacks with the same sir name as mine. Besides everyone is a wee bit Irish on St. Paddy's day. This is one of the biggest non-issues I have read on this board and there has been many from both camps.
O'bama does look a little like my Great Uncle and Grandson who btw is a very adorable two year old.

:toast:

[SoxFan]

83. He's secretly a Catholic!

He was educated not in a Madrassa in Indonesia but at St. Marcelin Champagnat School by those coniving Marist Brothers! It's a papist plot, I tell ya!

[Leopolds Ghost]

148. And here we finally get at the truth.

:evilfrown:

[Mooney]

136. ...

[Occam Bandage]

45. And now, a joke, jlake-style.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To the best of my knowledge, no chicken actually crossed any particular road. It is possible that a chicken may have crossed a road at some point, but I have no evidence such a crossing occurred. However, let us speak hypothetically for a brief moment, and take as fact the conjecture of a road-crossing chicken. In that case, I find the most likely reason the chicken crossed the road to be a desire to arrive at the other side. This is amusing, as it does not actually answer the question, as such a desire is presumed from the instance of road-crossing, and the initial question was actually asking for the reason the hypothetical chicken hypothetically possessed said hypothetical desire.

[elixir]

Agreed, it is a tad nauseating. But he has a right to reference his heritage although the O'Bama

thing is a little too cute for my taste.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. I like it.

O'Bama. It's cute!

[rocktivity]

11. Somebody around here uses O'Bama in their sig graphic!

:rofl:
rocknation

[SoxFan]

76. That would be me!

[JimGinPA]

12. I Find You To Be The South End Of A Horse Facing North.

:dunce:

[enfield collector]

13. you need to grow a thicker skin.

[bicentennial_baby]

16. PS Irish is a nationality, not a race....

[jlake]

40. Thanks. That didn't fit in too well with my whole point though.

[davidinalameda]

174. you had a point?

color me surprised

[C_U_L8R]

19. That's not very Irish of you to say.

[americanstranger]

20. Didn't you leave, vowing never to return or something like that?

But here you are, still posting nonsensical crap.

- as

[Hippo_Tron]

21. ROFLMAO this is satire, right?

[jlake]

36. Shhhhh.

[Occam Bandage]

53. Hahaha, good luck gettin' people to believe that.

[jlake]

104. Please quit posting in this thread if you're too dense to get it.

TYVMYFA!

[Occam Bandage]

105. I'm pretty sure I've never seen this much fail in one thread.

[KAZ]

22. Why are DU members forced to put up with your shit?

[Occam Bandage]

25. I'm full-blooded Irish, and I think you're 'round the bend.

[scheming daemons]

26. "I know that I am probably alone in this thought"

.. you could say that for just about any political-related thought you ever have, jlake.

[ecstatic]

43. Actually he has the support of at least one anonymous asshat

Or maybe the sole recommender just wanted to highlight stupidity.

[XemaSab]

85. Maybe they just wanted to highlight PURE COMEDY

:P

[baldguy]

27. Everyone is Irish on St Patrick's Day.

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[Zueda]

31. Just as bad as "The first black president".

huh?

[DrFunkenstein]

32. This Is Just Like Blackface...He's Ridiculing Ex-Slaves By Acting Stupid

If you know your history, then you know where your coming from.

[Kahuna]

33. I'm black and I have Irish ancestors. Duh. A lot of us do. Figure it out. nt

[Johnny__Motown]

34. I am Irish, I think it is funny

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[Renew Deal]

37. I thought you were going away?

Oh well.

[jlake]

49. No such luck o' the Irish for you today.

I'll be gone again tomorrow.

[Renew Deal]

Forever?

:D

[SoxFan]

60. Is that a promise?

Please?

[JVS]

39. I have trouble believing you

[jlake]

47. First step down. Now put on your thinking cap.

[VolcanoJen]

42. He's related to Dick O'Cheney.

Oh, stop it, already. Really.

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[jlake]

48. Um, no - that is not the point.

[DiggerDan]

59. Who cares.

Your point begs to be laughed at and mocked which is precisely what is happening.

[40ozDonkey]

72. yeesh

[alteredstate]

50. lol!

We needed a good laugh in this place tonight! Thanks! :)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

54. Is this double super-secret satire?

[saltpoint]

55. Wait. Are you saying he ISN'T Irish?

Man, they sure fooled me.

[Barack_America]

65. Actually, he is.

At least his mother was.

[saltpoint]

75. Well there you have it!

[Leopolds Ghost]

151. Is Irish matrilineal?

Is Obama actually Jewish as well, in addition to being Catholic, Protestant, and Muslim?

[roguevalley]

179. but apparently his mother hated america and raised him 'like that'

:sarcasm: SIGH! Top o' the mornin' to ye anyhoo. :+

[Not the Only One]

58. You're like a parody of an Obama hater/Hillary worshipper

You are full of fail, like a flood of fail that washes over every thread you're on.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

69. Indeed...

[SoxFan]

Epic Fail

[stevietheman]

61. jlake is now officially off the deep end. n/t

n/t

[XemaSab]

62. I am laughing so hard I am crying!

:rofl:

[stahbrett]

64. How is that Hillary celebration party going for you tonight for her big win in Mississippi?

:D

[JoFerret]

66. I hope you are not suggesting he is black Irish

....because that will upset a whole new constituency. And some of them are women.
We are all so sensitive these days and must be very quiet and so very careful for fear of hurting people's feelings.

[tularetom]

68. I'm an American mutt. It's impossible to offend me

Scottish, German, Italian and Swiss on my mother's side.

Scotch-Irish, Native American (and possible African American) on my dad's.

If Obama is Irish god bless him.

If he isn't who gives a shit.

On St Pat's we're all Irish anyway.

You should lighten up - in 500 years we're all gonna be Cablanasians like Tiger Woods.

[tekisui]

70. Irish Racism!

From someone part Irish!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Thurston Howell III]

71. Is this a message about Project X or something?

[jlake]

113. What's project X .... I guess I wasn't around back then.

You seem to know alot about DU's past despite your being here for a very short time.
Very peculiar....

[Thurston Howell III]

116. It's called lurking!

Get some help.

[jlake]

119. Wink. Ok. Got it. Wink.

;-) ;-)

[Thurston Howell III]

120. Good now do something about your manic episode!

[Swamp Rat]

73. The other races in me just kicked the Irish part's ass for bumping this thread.

LOL! :D

[saltpoint]

78. I think a Commanche lesbian would be a good candidate for 2012.

If she promises to re-institue the Pony Express AND sell the Louisiana Purchase back to France, so much the better.

[msongs]

77. hillary clinton's name is NOT actually MONSTER but the obamanistas love calling her that nt

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[Recursion]

81. You do know he's part Irish, right? (nt)

[Catherine Vincent]

84. I'm kinda slow.

I didn't get it.

[Occam Bandage]

87. It's okay. So is OP.

[myrna minx]

86. Ok, you actually made this Irish lass laugh.

I know you didn't mean to but you did. *giggle*

[Shine]

91. I'm part Irish and I think it's funny. I doubt Obama would be offended by it.

Apparently he IS part Irish, as well.

What's the big deal?? :shrug: I don't quite get the "pandering" remark.

[yourguide]

93. We all thought you left. why are you here?

[DS1]

95. I strained my claddagh while laughing

[dailykoff]

96. stooge

:mad:

[theHandpuppet]

97. C'mon jlake... take a deep breath

April 6th is National Tartan Day and if Barack Obama wants to celebrate by wearing a kilt, this Scots-American lass would be happy to offer him a good whiskey and some haggis. He could even be Barack MacBama for a day. The more the merrier!

And a happy St. Pat's to all our Irish cousins! :toast:

Oh, and to a great Welsh American, Hillary Rodham. :toast:

[dailykoff]

100. I didn't know HiIllary was Welsh.

But then I didn't know Obama was Irish! I love DU!

[Alexander]

110. Yes, she's part French Canadian too.

[muriel_volestrangler]

163. That would be *whisky*, on that day

Please, that kind of thing is important. :D

[redqueen]

172. I thought it was "That's whiskey with an E, boyo!"

I'm an Eirophile, I am. :)

[Shakespeare]

101. I think I just OD'd on irony. n/t

[fishwax]

102. akin to blackface?

:wtf:
:puke:
:eyes:

[dailykoff]

103. I'm stealing the next one I see

Countdown to monday!

[Alexander]

108. I find Shaquille O'Neal racist and in very poor taste.

Shillbots are becoming more of a parody of themselves each day.

[olkaz]

109. You are out of your goddamned mind.

You'd find a way to spin it in a negative way if he cured cancer, wouldn't you?

[slinkerwink]

111. uh, he's part Irish

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

115. Oh, goodie. More fake outrage.

:eyes:

[Leopolds Ghost]

117. People are talking about O'Bama's Irrrish heritage... do you deny it?

When will Obama come out and repudiate his Irish roots?

Did you know he went to a CATHOLIC school in his youth?

Is he a Black Irish Hibernian Candidate???

[Beacool]

123. Hey, don't you know?

He's one of the black Irish!!!!!!!


:rofl:

[unapatriciated]

131. watch it sister.....

I resemble that remark. :evilgrin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

:toast:

[Beacool]

141. Heck, I'm half Irish and went to a boarding school run by the Sisters of Mercy

I celebrate St. Patrick's day religiously by making corned beef and cabbage. Served with soda bread and some good ale. Hmmmmm, it's making me hungry.

:D

[unapatriciated]

153. Add a few potatoes to that corned beef.

I prefer little reds. No ale for me, give me a nice cold dark Guinness. Grandfather born in mayo county. When I said I "resemble" that remark it was a joke...dark hair and brown eyes here, all my cousins are redheads and blue eyes go figure.

[roguevalley]

181. post your soda bread recipe. by the by, does anyone have the

bread recipe that is white and light as clouds or is this the other one, the dense wheaty thing?

[unapatriciated]

188. here is a link for soda bread recipe

http://www.europeancuisines.com/Peters-Mums-Soda-Bread-Recipe

[roguevalley]

190. THANK YOU! I love this.

[Nailzberg]

124. Chicago politics is pretty humorous. Too bad you don't get it.

Even if Obama didn't have some Irish ancestery, it still works.

Years ago it was a fairly common voting trend in Cook County to automatically vote to retain judges with Irish and Polish surnames. The South side of Chicago is black and Irish. Some candidates in the past have even legally changed their names to get on the ballot.

The guy with the funny name, as he sometimes puts it,while addressing concerns about his name in elections past by inserting an anecdote about voters asking him if Obama is an Irish name. And his supporters have picked up on it and made it into a t-shirt. Big fucking whoop.

[jlake]

125. I don't think it is cute. I think cutsie is revolting.

[Nailzberg]

126. I never said cute. Puppies are cute. I said humorous.

And a funny joke doesn't always appeal to everyone.

[jlake]

127. I don't think it's humorous. Humerous people don't survive the hard times.

[Jed Dilligan]

130. Yes, that's certainly true

The grim, tense, paranoid, angry ones are the real survivors... all those fools who can laugh at themselves and their situation are DOOMED I tell ye...damn those "humerous" types!

:sarcasm:

[jlake]

132. I don't have time for that tripe. I must work hard to survive. I need a candidate

with substance who will fight the vile RW - not coddle them like St. Obama.

[Jed Dilligan]

133. Yes, no one with a sense of humor works very hard

:rofl:

[jlake]

135. Some may. I don't have time for that nonsense.

[Jed Dilligan]

138. Well, then, I'm glad I don't know you

Nothing is more dangerous and oppressive than a person who can't laugh.

And I don't think it's a matter of "time," either, seeing how much you post on this site!

[jlake]

139. hmmm. I only post on this site while I am at work or otherwise occupied.

My time is precious. we are all dust in the wind and every minute is a unique opportunity to serve god and/or our candidate (both in one if you support Obama)

[Jed Dilligan]

140. So you steal time from your employer to post here?

I'm self-employed so I know the value of time. But can the spiritual crap if you actually want to talk to me.

[mojowork_n]

160. You work for the Clinton campaign? n/t

[jlake]

162. No, unfortunately.

[roguevalley]

184. laughter can cure cancer. I will laugh for you at the appropriate time.

email me.

[onenote]

183. I assume you wrote to Hillary telling her how disappointed you were she appeared on SNL

Such frivolity!! Appalling!!!

[XemaSab]

180. Hey, O'Bama's people got through the famine just like yours and mine

:shrug:

[roguevalley]

182. what a dry life you must live. again, post why you find this offensive.

[Neshanic]

128. Jesus, lighten up, I think it's kinda cool, and I can't stand him.

[rucky]

129. Your offense offends me!

:hide:

[jeffrey_X]

134. 1/10

this place sucks

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[candice]

154. Doesn't Maureen Down refer to him as Obambi?

She's a Hillary hater of the first order. Must have been done wrong by a man who reminded her of Bill.

[Lilith Velkor]

155. K & R for the Irish

Fuckin' hilarious thread. :toast:

[doyourealize1]

156. I don't, sorry

[CreekDog]

157. Clearly a case of indignation

Ignorighteous indignation

[jlake]

158. I'm glad you are having so much fun...... it's funny 'cuz it's sad.

Why don't you run off to the lounge and post about this thread too?
They wuv u in teh lounge!

[CreekDog]

161. Well you never complained about statements from "you-know-who's" campaign

or Lucky Charms:

[BringBigDogBack]

164. Bwahahaha!

Fucking clueless.

[cali]

165. Aww, c'mon, you gotta love monumentally stupid

this thread is DUzy worthy. It's close to a work of art.

[Scurrilous]

167. Hillarity kick.

:kick:

[Vinca]

168. I'm so happy to see we're focusing on important issues.

O'Bama pins vs. 8 dead soldiers in Iraq.

[onenote]

173. You actually are alone in most of your thoughts.

[jlake]

191. Unfortunately for you - no.

[NMMatt]

176. I would find white ethnics playing the victims completely laughable

If it were for the fact that it really distracts from true racism and its legacy. There is nothing that the Irish or Italians went through in this country even remotely comparable to what blacks or native americans experienced. Crying racism over bullshit like this shows a profound racial insensitivity and ignorance of our history.

[jlake]

185. dupe. delete.

[jlake]

dupe. delete.

[jlake]

dupe. delete.

[jlake]

186. wow - there are no words.

[SoxFan]

187. I beg to differ

I won't even discuss what happened on the other side of the Atlantic (Cromwell, the Penal Laws, the negligent genocide of the Great Hunger)...











"We still must honor the memory of those
who paved the way for us. Part of that responsibility is that
Irish-Americans should never forget the new immigrants from other lands,
legal and undocumented. Many, like our forebears, are fleeing tyranny,
economic and political, and are striving to feed and educate their families.
It would be the ultimate irony if an Irish-American were to look down upon
the least of them; for, in my mind anyway, there is no place in the Irish
soul for racism, sectarianism, and homophobia or even dumb old Archie Bunker
type xenophobia."
Larry Kirwan, singer/guitarist, Black 47

[unapatriciated]

189. great quote and a sentiment my father instilled in us.

My great grandfather told us many stories as to why they fled to the new world when my grandfather was only two.

[RichardRay]

192. I just removed the j dude from my ignore list today

I am SO glad. I would absolutely have been devastated to have missed this thread. I'm up coding at 1:30 AM and logged in while the compiler is doing its thing. This has made the night far easier to get through. Yes, j-man, some of use work really hard AND find laughter valuable. (anybody who has to do maintenance on code written in FORTRAN had better have a sense of humor!)

If this is really meant as a put on, then you're remarkably successful at it!

[LowerManhattanite]

193. Pissy fit...

...then a disingenuous, Triumph-like “I keeeeeeed! I keeeeeeeed!”

A “Hindenburgian” fail. From whoever blast-faxed this as a “talking point” and however many chose to run with it.

Chuckle-worthy nonetheless. :)

[jlake]

194. hehehe you're so funny.

"whoever blast-faxed this as a 'talking point' and however many chose to run with it"