Would I be racist if I said this...

[Catherine Vincent]

"Obama is not like a lot of the black athletes, at least Obama married a black woman."

[woolldog]

1. Very sad.

I think I'm going to leave the democratic party after this election.

[babylonsister]

2. Ugh. Ergo, black athletes marry white women and they are to be reviled? nt

[Emit]

3. Did that come from DU?

[Catherine Vincent]

6. No. It came from an acquaintance. nt

[greguganus]

45. You need some new acquaintances. n/t

[MadMaddie]

Ummm ...yea..

yes it is racist.

By the way there are plenty of black athletes that are married to black women.

I don't care who dates who...but why the hell does it matter?

[Blue_Roses]

4. ...

:eyes:

[stellanoir]

5. like it even matters

[scheming daemons]

7. Would I be a sexist or homophobe if I said this:

"Hillary is not like a lot of powerful, tough women... at least her significant other is a man."


My statement is COMPLETELY ridiculous and would (rightly) get me slammed.... and it is NO DIFFERENT from yours.



Only YOURS has an added fact that makes it silly....

Obama is half-white. If he married a white woman, he would NOT be marrying "outside his race."

[FrenchieCat]

8. Obama is not an Athlete, so your statement doesn't make sense

further, you'd have to provide stats to support what you are saying, otherwise, you'd be stereotyping based on nothing but your impression.

But, no, I wouldn't call you racist. I would call you ignorant.

[stop the bleeding]

9. Who said that?

answer to your question:yes

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

52. catgirl25 did.

She really needs to go speak with Rick about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

[melody]

10. It would be a gross generalization and therefore dumb n/t

[Exilednight]

11. yes

[meow mix]

12. it takes a racist to fabricate this kind of bs

id say your already there.

[IsItJustMe]

13. ignorant, not to the level of racism

[tenderdog]

14. Depends. If you are Hillary Clinton, or her supporter, yes. It is racist

Otherwise, it would be funny.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

56. What's Funny Is That Big Ass Concrete Slab On Your Fucking Head Pal.

[HughMoran]

62. mmmm, tenderdog likes some concrete galoshes

:rofl:

[Colobo]

15. Oh Lord... why are we seeing this at DU?

[Occam Bandage]

16. Depends on the context, but yeah, that's getting into bad territory.

[KAZ]

17. Self delete

[tammywammy]

18. That's uncalled for language

You should delete that immediately!

[KAZ]

21. Go look at the OP and then get back to me.

[tammywammy]

28. That word is NEVER acceptable!

You should be ashamed. :puke:

[Joe the Revelator]

33. All words can be acceptable

if they fit.

[tammywammy]

35. No, that word is NEVER acceptable

It never "fits." That's disgusting language and uncalled for.



*An Obama Supporter*

[Joe the Revelator]

39. I don't care if you're Obama's mother

I can't handle people who control and fear language. Words are here to be used.

[tammywammy]

40. That word is never acceptable

Period. It's offensive to the highest degree.

[HughMoran]

42. Go ahead and use it then

You can be banned for using that word smartypants

[Joe the Revelator]

44. You told me

[HughMoran]

54. That you don't know the rules and are defending the indefensible?

Yep.

And for you to post infantile insults is to be expected from an Obama supporter, so you are fully in character.

[Joe the Revelator]

61. Care to comment on the racist OP

or the racist campaign your candidate is waging?

Stop being a chump. Hows that for a "c" word?

[HughMoran]

63. 1) I already did - see below 2) you're making an assumption

Kinda funny actually - you just can't stand the fact that I'm not a lemming.

[KAZ]

46. Yes, and I diminished from the racist POS OP. Strange,..

.. they didn't have a problem with that.

[tammywammy]

48. I have a problem with the OP

But didn't feel the need to post on it. But your use of highly offensive language I sure as hell will post on.

[KAZ]

55. You're right. I let my anger get the best of me.

[HughMoran]

19. Holy crap - the "C" word?

Have you lost your mind?

[KAZ]

23. Self delete

[Name removed]

27. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Name removed]

31. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[KAZ]

32. Dupe

[UndergroundEcoHound]

58. Step away...

You may need to take a break. You have seriously lost touch with reality. Obama is the most vile person in the world??? With all seriousness, you might just be on the brink of completely losing it.

[jlake]

68. How dare you Question my mental state!!!!!!!!!!

[blogslut]

36. You're an ass

And a fool

[HughMoran]

20. It's a stupid use of a stereotype

...that I would expect to hear form a racist.

[jackson_dem]

22. WTF?

:wtf:

[Hippo_Tron]

24. No but you might be racist if you said "Donovan McNabb is overrated because he's black"

[meow mix]

25. heres your official song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzoPTtTfcrA

[Johnny__Motown]

26. would I be sexist if I said this.. You are an idiot.

[Joe the Revelator]

29. WTF?

[bling bling]

30. No, that in and of itself. Would not make you be racist.

At least not in my opinion.

I'm not sure why you're asking, so I'm not going to make an assumption yet. But it feels like you're pushing a button, which is why I suspect you're getting some ugly responses. It feels like you're pushing a button, and I hope you understand that.

[Catherine Vincent]

38. Not trying to push any buttons.

This came up in a conversation I had recently with friends. I dont want to go into detail on how the topic came up. Judging by the responses, it was what I suspected.

[bling bling]

41. Well you really can't judge by the responses, though.

Because they are knee-jerk responses because for many people you probably DID push a button. That's what people do when you push buttons, it's basic psychology. And I don't think that there is any fair point you can try to make if you use a tactic that tends to trigger people like that.

[Johnny__Motown]

59. yes it would. suggesting one type of behavior based on race makes you a racist

Prejudice... whatever.. it is all the same


You have pre judged that all black athletes will marry white women.


How in the hell can that not be racist?

[bling bling]

64. Not necessarily.

I'd have to see the statement in a larger context in order to judge the person as being racist or not.

There are plenty of statements that can be made about race that don't amount to the person being a racist.

I can state that smarter white men marry black women more often than ignorant white men.

And it's actually a fact. The more educated a white man is, the more likely he is to marry a black woman.

That's not racist.

I don't know whether it's true or not but if it IS, it wouldn't be racist to note that the more famous a black man is, the more likely he is to marry a white woman. Anyway, I don't know what's true or not about that last fact. But my point is would feel perfectly comfortable having a conversation discussing a topic like this and not feeling like I was being a racist. And if somebody said, "at least Obama married a black woman" I would have to understand the larger context before I could claim it was stated by a someone who had racism at the core of the statement.

[HughMoran]

69. I have to agree

Back in the inner city - a statement like this may have been made by any race person in our group and may or may not be considered insulting depending on the context. It is a stupid use of a stereotype no matter how you slice it though.

[bling bling]

70. Yes, I agree with you on that last point too. n/t

[THUNDER HANDS]

34. ibtl

[backscatter712]

37. How should I break it to you gently? YES!!!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

43. not in my opinion...

but it sounds like you find black men marrying white women to be offensive.

[greguganus]

50. whodathunkit?

:eyes:

[JVS]

47. Why don't you go to 71st and Jeffery blvd in Chicago and try it out?

Approach people for two hours saying that. We'll wait here and you can tell us how it went.

[Mooney]

49. More stupid than racist. n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. Of Course It Is, For Two Reasons:

1: It implies that there's something wrong with marrying someone other than a black woman.

2: It speaks of being black not merely as a descriptive, but as a stereotyped group. It groups by race, and implies that the race spoken is supposed to adhere to certain rules and expectations that are different from everyone else, or they are to be looked down upon. For example, to turn the phrase around, it is implying that those who do not marry black women are falling out of some perceived order somehow, and are less of a person than him for doing so. In reality, any one can choose to marry anyone they friggin want. Because there were implied rules or an implied "he's better than them because" that's based solely on racial factors, the statement becomes one of racism.

[rucky]

53. Did a black woman say this?

[Catherine Vincent]

65. Yes. nt

[rucky]

72. There's a great scene in Jungle Fever that explains this issue. n/t

[New Dawn]

57. Am I at Stormfront or DU?

It is hard to tell this evening.

[Ichingcarpenter]

60. You are still a bullshit fence sitter with your passive aggressive posting

Shame on you

[Catherine Vincent]

66. Bite me!

[Infinite Hope]

67. No, but stereotyping/prejudice. n/t

[jeffrey_X]

71. No...it would just be fucking ignorant.

HTH