Obama can only win Caucus states.

[MattBaggins]

I am not anywhere near a political number crunching Guru as most of the posters here, but I even I can see the problems with this idea. First problem is quite simply the fact that he has won more than enough primaries to prove he is no one trick pony.

I am one of the Obama supporters that does believe that the caucus system is a joke and that the DNC should get the states to agree on a fair across the board system of primaries with absentee ballots available to ensure fair voting. We should politely (or perhaps not so politely) tell the "super" delegates that their services are no longer needed. The party also needs to come up with a rotating system of when states hold primaries (sorry Iowa and NH but you can kiss my @$$ with always going first). We need to overhaul the nominating process and create a system that more people can trust in.

Now I know Hillary supporters are chomping at the bit to gleefully inform me that Obama would have lost if this were so. I would not be so certain of that though. I do not know how all states operate; but when I went to college here in NY, there were voting booths setup right on the campus. If you think that college students in caucus systems were a problem; imagine what the votes would have been when an Obama supporter doesn't have to try and get his/her buddies to go to a meeting for four hours, but instead only has to knock on the door and get them to walk over to the chow hall. I don't like the caucus system either, but I believe that Obama would have adjusted his campaign methods and the overall outcome might not have been as favorable to Hillary as conventional wisdom would have one believe.

[yourout]

1. I agree with most of what you are saying and would add....close the primary to Registered Repubs...

Independants are fine but I am sick of Rush Limpdick being able to fuck with our primary.

[juajen]

2. Well thought out post. These changes are certainly preferable to

what we have now. I hate the caucuses because shy people can so easily be bullied, and because no low income person can afford to be away from an hourly wage job for two, three or four hours. I believe a round robin system should be utilized for primary date placement. I also hate any caucus or primary that is open. All should be closed to prevent vote manipulation by the opposition party. They must be laughing their asses off about now, and it makes me furious.

One of the reasons I distrust Obama is that he took advantage of this and gave added incentive for manipulation. I really liked him at first, even though I preferred Clinton. I was amenable to changing my mind, though some on here might not believe me. He disappointed me greatly.

I appreciate the nice way you put forth your suggestions. If every Obama poster was as nice as you, I don't believe we would be having war on DU. I'm not sure about everywhere else. I think maybe we have a telescopic view on DU.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

3. keywords "Open" or "Closed" Primary...Obama wins only OPEN ones where Rethugs can muddy the water

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. NY has a CLOSED Primary....not a caucus

[MattBaggins]

8. I know that

I am fully aware that NY is a primary state.

[woolldog]

5. One point that is often missed

is that Obama's transparent government/anti-lobbyist message plays very well in the Midwest. And for historical reasons the Midwest tends to have a lot of caucuses in the primaries.

Remove the caucus system and I think Obama would still do well in the Midwest. That's why polls show Obama competitive with McCain in Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado and the Dakotas in a General Election.

[sandnsea]

6. Washington State had a primary and caucus

I don't understand why, but only the caucus counts. In any event, Obama won the primary too. I don't know how many ways to say it, people in the rocky mountains and northwest fucking hate her.

[HughMoran]

7. Obama actually very narrowly is winning in total votes counting primary states only

I'm not sure if you were aware of that. As for the caucuses, they just plain SUCK! Talk about a system that is ripe for corruption and intimidation. Anybody who thinks a caucus is fairer than a primary vote is smoking some serious dope.

[VolcanoJen]

9. Weird timing, the night of his victory in the Mississippi Primary...

... it's looking like 60% to 37%, as I type this.

I'm sure DUers will find some way to tear down yet another solid primary victory.

Caucuses were "teh awEsum" before Obama started winning them... or at least that's my take.