Can Obama win the GE with only 25% of the white vote?

[Seeker30]

Only 25% of white people voted for Obama yesterday in Mississippi, he will never win the GE with those numbers.

Add that with the fact that 3 times the amount of Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama compared to the Obama supporters that would vote for Hillary and it is clear the only way to win in November is by having Hillary as the nominee, it is for the good of the party.

[anigbrowl]

1. I don't hear white people saying they'l sit it out if Obama wins.

Nice try, but no sale.

[liberalnurse]

26. I have......

and it's the norm....McCain will win so the Trolls here will glow at this realization.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

44. Maybe, in your interactions with these people, you should try to counter it

[greguganus]

48. If it's the "norm" for you, you hang with alot of racists. n/t

[Seeker30]

49. Everyones a racist who doesnt support Obama

Just like everyones a racist who think OJ was guilty.

[leftofcool]

29. This is true

but I hear lots of women saying they will.

[Skittles]

2. Obama needs to get America to REALLY know McCain

if he succeeds in that, he'll get WAY more than 25%. I myself would NEVER vote based on what RACIST ASSHOLES do.

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[ingac70]

4. You think every white person is like white people in Mississippi? n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

5. Obama has done well in many white states, Hillary has consistently lost the black vote.

So your point is pretty pathetic.

[leftofcool]

39. were those all blue states?

[eShirl]

57. Maine is pretty blue

and something like 97-99% white

[chknltl]

6. You are right...he won't win with such numbers....

He WILL win with much larger numbers.

[lligrd]

7. So You Think We Should Turn Our Party Over To The Racists

As a Progressive, I strongly disagree.

[travelingtypist]

8. This Ferarro mess is Pure Karl Rove.

It smells as bad as John McCain has an illegitimate
black baby.

HRC needs to go away. Now.

[texasleo]

9. He isn't kicking Hillary's ass by only getting black voters

Is he?

[liberalnurse]

27. Accurate assessment.

It needs to be recognized....

[XemaSab]

10. Can Obama win the GE with only 80% of the white vote?

:shrug:

He only got 80% of the white vote in Idaho. This worries me. :(

Help me feel better about this, before I cry. :(

[quantass]

11. But it was Mississippi....Thank God real whites arent like them

[quantass]

12. Obama does extremely well with whites....Mississippi is a freak.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. She will get the Clorox bleach vote

but it won't take out the stains of your racist post.

[JimGinPA]

14. 25% Of White People That Were POLLED Said They Voted For Obama In MISSISSIPPI...

The rest of your argument is also seriously flawed also. Barack has much lower negatives going in than Mrs. Clinton. He has the potential of carrying states that she has no chance of carrying, such as VA, GA, and CO. Not to mention she has completely alienated the black vote, so she has the potential of losing traditional blue states as well.

[Diane R]

15. What a stupid thread. He regularly wins states with 90% white population. Idaho, anyone?

[depakid]

19. So, you think Idaho and Wyoming are "in play" for the GE?

:rofl:

[ingac70]

22. Iowa and Virginia are. n/t

[lligrd]

16. Uh, Did You Forget He Won

Mississippi where that poll was taken? Are you seriously saying we should hand it over to the loser?

[last_texas_dem]

17. Yeah, that was Mississippi

Gore and Kerry won less than 20-percent of the white vote in that state in the general election. Any Democrat who manages 25-percent+ in that state is doing well, sadly. (And yes, unlike many DUers, I know there's a difference between primaries and general elections; I'm just noting the results from recent general elections for the sake of comparison.)

As to the whole "Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama" claim, well, a few things 1) Those were Mississippi voters; if you consider how MS votes on race more than perhaps any other state, you know exactly what that implies, 2) No way in hell Mississippi votes for the Democrat in the general no matter who we nominate, and 3) That statistic likely represents the influence of a number of people that aren't Democrats and won't be voting Democratic in the general election- including "Limbaugh Democrats."

[depakid]

18. He's not going to win a Southern state

but then again, he may not need to....

[ngant17]

30. My guess is that Obama will do well in Georgia and SC

and Virginia, and a few other southern states. A large liberal white vote will make a difference. And he ought to do well in Florida.

[Clark2008]

53. Tennessee's in play, too.

Look, I know what the numbers said in our primary, but, to be frank, no one campaigned much here. It's like Tennessee didn't really matter to either campaign, so I don't consider the vote here to be very accurate.

[Johnny__Motown]

20. wow, yep.. all those black people in Iowa and Idaho put him over the top

[SoCalDem]

21. It's MISSISSIPPI...

:rofl:

did you EXPECT more?

That's actually pretty darned good

Bill Clinton's MS numbers in '96


probably not more than 25% white voters in that number

394,022
(44.1%)

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=1996&fips=28&f=1&off=0&elect=0
Clinton is red.. Dole Blue

[pampango]

23. Hillary strategy = convince superdelegates that a Black can't win the GE.

While it has always been likely that McCain would play to whites' fears of a Black candidate, it is disheartening that Clinton's playing of this card will give him political cover during the GE, when he does this.

[DemGa]

47. Really? She did this? When?

<<Hillary strategy = convince superdelegates that a Black can't win the GE.>>

[FrenchieCat]

24. Mississippi?

Hell, we're making progress.

Not long ago, Black men hung from trees for having looked a a White Woman!

25% White + 5% other = 30% --That's excellent Indeed!

[On the Road]

25. Does This Really Have to be Spelled Out?

There were two party primaries yesterday with two major candidates on the democratic ballot. The percentage of any group that Obama received versus Clinton and McCain and any other candidate has no bearing on what percent he will receive in the general versus one Republican opponent.

Mississippi is a white-majority Southern state, although not by as large as margin as many others. Not that the Democrats have been counting on Mississippi, much less the white vote in that state, but Obama's win actually bodes pretty well.

[bowens43]

28. ahh.... the fact that he got 25% of the white vote

in the PRIMARY in Mississippi doesn't translate to Obma will only get 25% of the white vote across the country in the GE,

Don't be so stupid,

What's clear is the Hillary and her supporters keep playing the race card and I find it fucking disgusting.
If Hillary supporters are such assholes that they'll refuse to vote for Obama in the GE, fuckem.

[quickesst]

31. Post #7

"So You Think We Should Turn Our Party Over To The Racists" (that's directed at you)


for a prime example of how Obama supporters will lie, and spin comments to achieve the goals of their campaign of elitist hatred. Get a clue, these people hate anyone who does not fall to their knees at the alter of Obama. They obviously don't give a shit whether HRC supporters vote for him if he wins the nomination, simply because they are delusional enough to believe some sort of divine intervention will crown Obama president. That they believe this divine intervention will come in the form of disgruntled Repug voters, only reaffirms the disconnect to reality. They are the Dem version of Bush's 2000 and 2004 fanatic base. Thanks.
quickesst

[Seeker30]

56. They really need to start their own religion

and quit pretending its about politics.

[cali]

32. Vermont, Colorado, Maine, Virginia, Delaware, Maryland

Wisconsin and many other states are places where he won the white vote. duh. How can people be so stupid?

[Political Heretic]

33. Yep. Because you're math is wrong.

He doesn't have only 25% of the white vote in head to head national match-ups against McCain.

Democratic Party Primaries <> General Election

The anecdotal claim that there are "Three times" the number of Hillary supporters who would refuse to vote for the Democratic Party nominee unless it was Hillary really only goes to show the lack of quality and character of "three times" the number of Hillary supporters. :eyes:

Not that I really believe that number, I believe that most people will come around if their candidate loses and do the right thing. You just have to go through the letting go process first.

[catgirl]

34. What a pukey post

Intentional flamer and you know it. One state does not represent the whole
country. Obama has won white states. So, can Hillary win the general when
so many voters are disgusted with her? That's the question that needs to be
answered.

[GumboYaYa]

35. Yes, Hillary cornered the old racist bigot vote in Missisippi...are you proud of that?

[GumboYaYa]

36. Yes, Hillary cornered the old racist bigot vote in Missisippi...are you proud of that?

[against all enemies]

37. Obama won Connecticut, I guess I'm black.

[jefferson_dem]

38. Can Hillary win the GE with only 9% of the African-American vote?

As silly a question as yours...

[slinkerwink]

40. Mississippi is the South, and the last bastion of racists

[easy_b94]

45. Hello people this is Mississippi we are talking about duh!!!!!

Those people are still living in the past

[mmonk]

41. I'm white and I'm going to vote for Obama.

The whole purpose of the race baiting is to see if we can be divided or for us to also think in those terms. I'm not playing.

[BklynChick]

42. Mississippi white folks are very different and he won whites in better margins in most other states

[MagickMuffin]

43. I'll vote for him AGAIN

A white middle aged woman living in Texas.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

46. Faulty logic, fear mongering... what else do you have?

[Seeker30]

51. Sure you dont want to throw racist or Clintons penis in with that?

Seems thats all YOU have.

[BringBigDogBack]

50. It was Mississippi.

Use your head.

[Clark2008]

52. Dear Lord... like that number will hold up in a GE.

Sure there are some racist Democrats (in Ohio and Pennsylvania, too, not just the South. Groan), but the vast majority of these people will forget all this crap by the GE and vote for the Dem candidate regardless of race or sex.

Most people don't follow this as closely as this board.

[Kber]

54. What % of the white vite did Obama get in Wyoming

or Kansas
or Iowa

[Seeker30]

55. What is vite?

no comprendo

[tekisui]

58. Obama has beaten Clinton in every demographic, but one.

Across the country, Obama has won every demographic: women, men, black, white, poor, rich, liberal, moderate, Indy.

Hillary has one demographic base that Obama hasn't been able to tap: Over 60, the senior citizens.

He may only win 25% of the white vote in MS. But, shit HIllary can't win more than 10% of the black vote anywhere, or more than 50% of the Democratic vote across the country. Your argument is lame.

[Seeker30]

59. Really? 50% of the population are over 60?

Another Obamabot 'fact'.

[tekisui]

61. I didn't say that.

I said Hillary isn't winning the ONLY demographic that actually matters in this nominating process: The Democratic Primary voters. She has not won 50% of it.

Her only stronghold that he has yet to take from her is the 60+ vote. Your argument is still very lame.

[Unsane]

60. Let's get real, some of the anti-Obama white vote in MS was Limbaugh GOP crossover

[Vinca]

62. Do you think 75% of the white people in this country are so happy

with Republican rule they will vote in another 4 years of it? This country can't take 4 more Republican years. McCain thinks the only problem with the free trade agreements is that there are not enough of them. He has no concept whatsoever that the economy is in the dumper because American manufacturing jobs that paid well are now gone, replaced by burger flippers and lawn care guys. He's a Bush clone on the Iraq war and is just whacky enough to go after Iran. And, of course, all we need is a few more 'pukes on the Supreme Court. If 75% of white people are so stupid as to vote against the black guy because he's black (or because they're in a snit because Hillary wasn't the nominee), we deserve whatever we get. Thank heavens my husband is a Canadian.

[mod mom]

63. MISSISSIPPI!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

64. He also won around 75% of the white vote in Idaho, so what's your point?