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Wed Mar-12-08 06:00 AM
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Please understand Mississippi. |
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I grew up in Alabama and spent some time over the years in Mississippi. I hope that our Mississippi DUers will not take offense.
Mississippi is the least educated state in the US. It's an extremely poor state with poor schools. The state is almost entirely rural, more so than Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee. Most of the white and black population is uneducated. There is a good deal of racism in the state just as there is in Alabama. If you want to go back in time say to the 1950s race-wise, go to Mississippi.
The fact that Obama won only a small percentage of the white vote isn't surprising. I was disappointed in the cable talking heads last night saying that Obama has a real problem with getting the white vote, generalizing Mississippi to the rest of the country.
That is nonsense. The country is not Mississippi, at least not most of it. And Obama is not a miracle worker. He cannot singularly pull a state out of a quagmire of racism. That's impossible.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:02 AM
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1. Hillary has cornered the old racist bigot vote...her suppoters must be so proud. |
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:05 AM
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4. And BO "the cornered the old racist bigot vote"--on Black votes. His supporters must be so proud. |
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Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 06:07 AM by rodeodance
Your post sucks and my was meant to mock yours
sarcasm button on.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:19 AM
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7. At least, mine was comprehensible.... |
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Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 06:20 AM by GumboYaYa
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:46 AM
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12. your post was pure slime! |
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Wed Mar-12-08 08:01 AM
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21. Your posts are both pure slime. |
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You kiss your mothers with those mouths?
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Wed Mar-12-08 01:48 PM
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25. Actually, the exit polling proves my post true. |
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I take it that you are not proud to have cornered the racist bigot voting block.
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Wed Mar-12-08 01:48 PM
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26. Actually, the exit polling proves my post true. |
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I take it that you are not proud to have cornered the racist bigot voting block.
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Wed Mar-12-08 07:05 AM
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17. Well, she's had her surrogates working on that the past few weeks |
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I guess she figured if it worked in Texas, it would work in Mississippi too. She just had to find someone who'd do it in English instead of Spanish this time.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:04 AM
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2. Yep. MS is at the bottom of the barrel |
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when it comes to many metrics like health and education. Looking at states like Wisconsin, Vermont and Connecticut, all primary states, is much more useful.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:04 AM
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3. And lots of very white states have supported Obama |
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Iowa, Vermont, Wisconsin, Maine, to name only a few. The Clinton strategy of trying to portray Obama as only appealing to black voters is utter nonsense. :silly:
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:44 AM
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polls show when it's time to cast your ballot Barack does NOT add up! weak.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:50 AM
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15. Educate yourself. It's pathetic to see such ignorance |
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Obama won the following PRIMARIES: Wisonsin, Delaware, Virginia, Maryland, Vermont with the majority of the WHITE vote. And those states are just off the top of my head. There are more.
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Wed Mar-12-08 07:01 AM
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16. I find the word "pathetic", PATHETIC! |
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what is it with the du posters? every other post has the word 'pathetic." time for a new word. Barack could never win the GE!
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Wed Mar-12-08 07:59 AM
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20. hilly certainly can't |
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she's a loser and a disaster. She should be tossed on the ash heap of history. How delightful it will be to see that happen.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:47 AM
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13. I'm pretty sure that isn't any kind of Clinton strategy actually. |
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Wed Mar-12-08 08:18 AM
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23. I believe it's the MSM that's pushing that issue - Barack appealing to black voters. I didn't hear H |
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:17 AM
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5. Yes, I was disgusted - but not surprised - |
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when the MSNBC gasbags on Tweety's 10:00 special posed the new BIG QUESTION: "can Obama win the white vote?" This was being vigorously spun because Mississippi Rethug white voters in Rethug districts went solidly for Clinton. I mean, the "Limbaugh listeners crossing over" fact didn't enter into the conversation as a possible reason, as well as Mississippi is a really, really solidly RED Repuke State.
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Wed Mar-12-08 07:49 AM
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19. Three days after he won Wyoming |
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which was never mentioned, of course.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:19 AM
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6. The Democratic party's candidate has always tried to cater to the black vote. Why |
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is this any different? Give it a break!
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:39 AM
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8. There He Goes Again... |
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At last, this race is beginning to turn into, us against them, white vote vs black vote. Looks like the good ole DEMS are slowly beginning to divide the Democratic Party. Republicans are loading there guns because the DEMs are giving them plenty ammunition.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:45 AM
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10. Ferraro's Racist remarks timed perfectly ... |
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Right before Obama goes to ol' Miss ... As I've said .. Mrs. KKKlinton is vetted ... Her timing on this was impeccable .. The attack dog, Ferraro did her job and she's not backing down. Poor Obama FELL right into the trap set for him when he dumped Samantha Power. Ms. Power calling Mrs. KKKlinton a monster is nothing compared to what the KKKlinton camp and Ferraro are doing ... they're very slick ... KKKlinton has the Karl Rove technique refined to a science. Very skillful indeed!
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Wed Mar-12-08 08:59 AM
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24. the story was "sat on" since 5 days before texas.. released on miss day |
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i wonder who orchestrated that timing?
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:46 AM
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11. Thank you for taking the time to share this. |
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Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 06:48 AM by Window
I've read the panicky posts that say, based on the Mississippi racially divided voter turnout, that Obama can't possibly win the GE, which, of course, is nonsense.
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Wed Mar-12-08 06:50 AM
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14. Actually, I think the fact that he took 25% was impressive |
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though I wonder whther he would have done that is his opponent hadn't been Hillary....
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Wed Mar-12-08 07:15 AM
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18. I was shocked that the pundits were shocked at this. |
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And then they ask that stupid question, "Is Obama losing the white vote?" WTF??
He just got finished winning in states with majority white support and they ask this question because of Mississippi? Give me a break.
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Wed Mar-12-08 08:03 AM
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22. Several years ago, I was in Natchez for a convention... |
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...and my friend and I, both from Calif, went to a mall. When I was looking in a store window at some fabulous shoes and I commented to the lady standing next to me about these very high styled shoes. (I admit it ~~ I am a shoe-aholic.) I am white, she was black. She looked at me and said, "You are not from around here, are you?" My reply was something about my lack of Southern accent being a dead give away...and then it dawned on me what she meant: I was white and I was talking to her. She was not the least bit nasty about it...just stating a fact to me.
I realized that I had felt something "off" the entire time I had been in that mall. It was after school...and I did not see one bit of intermixing, exchanges, etc., between the groups of white students and black student who were streaming into the mall. In the food court, most of the booths had at least one white and one black person at the counter and...son of a gun...yep, you know who waited on who. With the conversation with the other woman standing at the shoe store window...it finally dawned on me what really had given me that odd sensation to being with. I had gone into one of those fast food places to get a soft drink and I, a white person, got in the black line and ordered and paid for my drink.
Natchez, Miss, was ENTIRELY segregated. I kept looking around after that at different places I went, and sure enough, blacks and whites simply did not mix socially or in any other manner.
I gotta tell you...this was a real shock to me. Now this happened about ten years ago ~~ in the mid-1990s ~~ I have no clue if it is still like this, but I cannot imagine that ugly attitude totally going away in 10 years.
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Wed Mar-12-08 01:50 PM
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27. Err... I grew up in a black-majority town in Mississippi |
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It's not like you're describing.
Maybe the problem was you were in Natchez. Natchez and Yazoo are the New Jersey of Mississippi.
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Wed Mar-12-08 01:52 PM
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28. Mississippi elected the first black Senator |
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Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 02:01 PM by dmesg
We've had 2 Republican governors in the past 125 years. The second-highest percentage of African-American voters in the country, and still a whole lot of blue dogs among the whites. Even in 1994 the GOP only got 2 out of 5 of our Congressional districts.
My Congressman during my whole childhood, Sonny Montgomery, was a conservative Democrat. He never switched parties. His work for veterans was tireless and immense, and helped the armed services recover from their nadir in the early 1980's. But "real" Democrats look down on him because he was not a social liberal. It's true; he wasn't. The problem is, we can have Democrats like Sonny Montgomery, or Republicans like Chip Pickering, and the party didn't seem to care enough about the difference to keep the Democrats like Montgomery in.
This is a conservative but blue state.
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