Last Night's Big Obama Win, put Hillary Out of Reach. Even if MI and FL seat As Is.

[tekisui]

Current delegate count:

Obama--1608

Clinton--1478



Obama gain in FL-- 72

Clinton gain in FL and MI-- 129


IF FL and MI were seated as is the new delegate count would be:

Obama--1680

Clinton--1607


Take into consideration that 55 delegates from MI are Uncommitted and could go to either. If these state re-vote, they will certainly split, and Obama would maintain his sizable lead.

[bluestateguy]

1. Hillary will have an argument for any scenario

1) "I won the popular vote." Whoop, that won't be operable.

2) "I won the popular vote in the primary states." Maybe, but who cares? The caucus state superdelegates won't appreciate that.

3) "I won the "big" states." A strategy designed to backfire, because I heard that small states have superdelegates too. They won't appreciate that argument.

4) "I have the momentum." That's like saying a baseball team that falls behind 12-0 though 8 innings and then scores 9 runs in the bottom of the ninth before losing really deserves to win.

[tekisui]

2. Her only argument will be that she won big states

and that she feels she is better against McSame. I don't think she'll have the popular vote by any measure, after the re-vote in MI and FL.

The big state argument is ridiculous, Obama has more votes from the biggest states when all added up. The SuperD's aren't stupid. They know the score, and will vote accordingly.

[RDANGELO]

3. It also adds about 100,000 votes to his total.

He picked up 100,000 votes in a relatively small state.

[tekisui]

4. Hillary lost two more SUperdelegates today.

Spitzer resigned. And David Hardt, DNC from Texas switched to Uncommitted.

[metalluk]

5. Things that mean the opposite

This post reminds me of pieces of mail that are labelled "urgent" or "open immediately." I've learned that pieces of mail with such teasers are only urgent to the interests of the sender, not to me. The truly urgent pieces of mail don't require such misdirection.

If and when it truly becomes "impossible" for Clinton to win, there will be no reason for writers like yourself to invest a lot of time in trying to convince others that it is so. You will let it go. These kind of threads only prove that you want it to be so, but that it is not yet the case.

Go Hillary!

[tekisui]

6. She cannot and will not, mathematically catch Obama in Pledged Delegates.

Her ONLY hope is to convince the remaining SuperD's to support her, and try to get other SuperD's to abandon Obama. I don't see it happening.

She lost two more Superdelegates today.

[Bake]

7. Speaking of math, I don't see the number 2205 in your post ...

I keep hearing that neither candidate gets to 2205 before the convention, so it will be decided by the superdelegates regardless.

Or have I been misinformed?

Bake