If Dems, especially HRC, don't STRONGLY CONDEMN Ferraro then STFU when the GOP uses racism

[wndycty]

For Hillary's campaign to softly condemn Ferraro but for the most part ignore how these comments are offensive to not only African Americans, but any American of good faith, is just sickening.

Lets drop politics for a minute, lets embrace humanity and decency and strongly condemn Ferraro and who race baiting words.

And before any miserable self loathing folks start the "but, but, but" and try to spin this as Ferraro being right or spin this as acceptable because there is sexism in this world, just STFU.

Racism and sexism is real, but one does not justify the other. I will NEVER EVER excuse someone saying something sexist in response to racism (and screw anyone using the "B" word to describe Ferraro, Clinton, Maggie Williams, etc.) and we should never ever rely on racism to respond to sexism.

Its even more disturbing that the GOP candidate (you know the candidate from the party we EXPECT racism from) is more aggressive in criticizing the behavior of his racist supporters.

If a Republican EVER used the same type of language that Ferraro used ALL DEMOCRATS would be screaming bloody murder. Any Democrat (Black or white) who does not roundly condemn Ferraro needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP the next time a Republican uses race to divide us.

[mod mom]

1. Sorry Windy, have to disagree. I have to believe most Dems are appalled at this race baiting and it

should NEVER be tolerated!

The day it does is the day I exit the party.

[wndycty]

3. What are you disagreeing with? Don't you believe anyone who is appalled should CONDEMN IT?

That is all I'm asking for. If they CONDEMNED IT there would be no problem. Silence is the problem.

[roguevalley]

24. I am amazed how dim they are to believe that keeping Ferraro

around isn't a deeply damaging thing. NC is coming up and other states. She needs EVERY SINGLE VOTE to even try to win. But she won't. She's playing for the "Alabama" that apparently lies between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. I hope those people get it that she's pandering to them and their worst instincts and that they hand her her head. Keep Ferraro, Hillary. She's a millstone around your neck.

[pbca]

2. Completely agree

Not only was it wrong morally, it was wrong factually.

If both Clinton and Obama were white men - Obama would have wrapped the nomination long ago - Clinton wouldn't have done as well as Kucinich.

Ferraro should be drummed out of the party, at the very least she should be denied a stage at any party event from this point forward. I don't think HRC is a racist, but if racism helps her she'll take it.

[October]

5. Then it must be said

that if racism helps Obama, he'll take it.

[pbca]

6. How has racism helped Obama

That's rediculous.

[wndycty]

18. Its Clinton supporter meme

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[October]

20. Not at all

It's being used by both sides. That's my point.

[wndycty]

7. No the subject of race marginalizes Obama . . .this is not a controversy he wants. . .

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[Kaylee]

23. WTF? This craziness by Ferraro hurts him...

Anytime race is brought up it hurts Obama. The last thing he wants is to be classified as is the "black" candidate.

There are scores of folks out there just waiting for him to interject race into this campaign so they can yell..."Ah hah, THE RACE CARD".

[mod mom]

9. Racism shouldn't be overlooked ever. It is despicable that a "win at any cost" strategy

would even consider allowing surrogates to use it. It's divisive and destructive to the entire nation and enables racists to justify their warped beliefs.

IF THIS IS NOT ADDRESSED SOON WE WILL BE HEADING FOR RACE RIOTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE-I pray that that is NOT the intent.

[Carrieyazel]

4. Some Repukes have brought up race and Obama. Haven't heard any bloody murder screams yet.

And we're already divided by race and class, judging from the primaries. So the Repukes don't have to do much of anything.

[wndycty]

8. And to his credit, McCain has consistently said it won't be tolerated, whereas Clinton. . .

. . .has softly condemned it and otherwise ignored it.

[mrJJ]

10. She speaks for the working woman... yeah ..ok

Geraldine Ferraro

A SOHO building partially owned by U.S. Senate candidate Geraldine Ferraro and managed by her husband, John Zaccaro, has housed 35 Chinese garment-manufacturing companies over the past few years--many of them nonunion and some apparently illegal.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9810,212225,143,1.html

Heres a woman who esentially made money off of the backs of chinese immigrants who make about 3 cents a stitch sewing garments in NYC.

[uponit7771]

11. RIGHT!!! She's said these statements more than once, Hillary supporters "Southern Strategy" type...

...politics isn't doing anyone any good.

[wndycty]

12. Yup it is a southern strategy

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[ellacott]

13. That's exactly what it is

and it has worked in the past. By marginalizing him and refusing to accept any responsibilty for any offense further deepens the divide.

Many on this board have angrily proclaimed that this subject should not be brought up because it will make the white people mad. She can afford to have the black turn away from her because she thinks she will get those whites who are upset about this subject. It resurrects deep seated feeling regarding race. Feelings that many don't want to admit exists, even within themselves.

[pdxmom]

14. For Hillary, I believe it is all political. She has looked at the percentages and

is gambling on the fact that she seems to have already lost the black vote and doesn't want to risk peeling off any of the women's vote by condemning Ferraro's statements in stronger terms or by actions. In my opinion, it's another example of Clinton doing whatever it takes, including accepting and encouraging this type of language from her own people. It's morally bankrupt and damaging to the Party.

[samdogmom]

16. Well, she's playing with fire. I'm a 50+ yr. old white woman who finds

Hillary's tactics more and more troubling every day. (Supposedly I'm her "base"--go figure!) IF she becomes the party's eventual nominee--I will have GREAT difficulty supporting her! She has truly turned me off. I would never give her a dime of my money or a minute of my time to campaign for her. If this continues--it will be very difficult for me to even vote for her.

I'll do it (if she's the Democratic candidate) because the Supreme Court is very important to me--BUT....she's losing a lot of voters going down this path!

[Bullet1987]

15. I agree...and stongly condemn

[wndycty]

19. Thank you

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[AlertLurker]

17. I dunno - I pretty much agreed with Ferarro.

Obama would certainly not be getting 80-90% of the AA vote were he not AA, especially considering the support in the AA community that Clinton USED to get before Obama's candidacy. Seems pretty obvious, rather than racist, to me.

The people spinning this into some PC-racist nightmare seem to be the same people who spun the "fairy-tale" comment into racism a few months back.

[NorthernSpy]

21. blacks tend to block vote for whichever candidate they support -- black or white...

In recent presidential nomination seasons, they've mostly ignored the candidacy of Al Sharpton, and supported white candidates. Nobody criticized them when they did that.


In 1984, Ferraro's ticket got over 90% of the black vote -- more than double the percentage of the white female vote she got. She didn't complain about black block voting then.


And by the way, if you're going to comment on US politics, maybe you should learn something about the subject first. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

[wndycty]

22. Very true

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