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Mon Apr-19-04 11:14 AM
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Could Kerry pick Lieberman for VP? MSNBC showing them campaigning |
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Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 11:15 AM by KoKo01
together now in Florida. Lieberman is right there with the balloons and flags shaking hands, smiling and acting like he's running again for VP.
Would Kerry do this? Would he? Is that why he said he supported "Israel's right to defend itself from terrorists" yesterday on MTP? Is that why he defended killing Hamas Leader?
Please don't tell me he's thinking of this...:-(
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:15 AM
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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vacate my upper GI. :puke:
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure Kerry has an excellent pro-Israel record and his (unfortunate) comments supporting Sharon, if anything, will make it easier for him to pick someone other than Sharon.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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He will pick someone outside of the Northeast to help carry the vote in Nov., imo.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:20 AM
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14. In a debate during the primary season |
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He was asked about coming from the Northeast... He replied that he would run with a Southerner on the ticket, and "we'll do just fine." if I recall correctly. So not Leiberman, thank God.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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7. There is no way. Hopefully he is not seriously considering |
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Gephardt either - I would be so depressed.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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This almost might be enough for me to vote Green.
In any other year, I would if this happened.
I consider Bush enough of a threat...
But, LIEBERMAN? Does Kerry really think he was an asset to Gore?
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:18 AM
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:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:18 AM
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10. I can't see this happening |
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It's bad geographically -- Connecticut has few electoral votes, they're strong D anyway, and Kerry's also from New England.)
Lieberman as a presidential candidate didn't exactly excite anyone. Lieberman as VP candidate didn't work last time around.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:18 AM
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11. Nobody's that stupid! |
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Oh, wait. Dubya is, but the Unka Dick won't let him pick Lieberman.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:19 AM
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12. I don't think Lieberman will be chosen for VP again |
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but this stuff is still disturbing.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:20 AM
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When Kerry shows up on a stage to debate Bush*, are you going to worry that Kerry is going to pick Bush* for VP?
Lieberman is very popular in Florida, and his presence will remind them of ElectionTheft2000.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:25 AM
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16. Since Lieberman encouraged the election theft in Florida |
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Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 11:26 AM by Classical_Liberal
by harping about the illegimate after the due date military votes, and was one of the people that wanted us to "get over it!" how is this a good thing?
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:20 AM
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he's been holding hands with all the other former candidates lately too. Doesn't mean a thing.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:37 AM
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17. Nope. It's just Lieberman's turn to campaign with Kerry. |
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Lieberman is there tweaking the memories of those who votes were discounted.
Kerry has NO intention of putting Lieberman on the ticket.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:47 AM
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18. Good for the media contest mentality |
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It works to keep their attention. Use it. It also distracts attacks on the ticket which is not officially formed yet. Party unity is a major devastating factor this year and would be a winner by itself with a fighting Kerry if not for Bush cheating.
People we talk to who voted for Bush will go to Kerry this time. They believe Bush will cheat and win, but this keeps them from thinking Kerry has a potential landslide in motion. That is good too. This is stoking fuel to a potentially devastating mandate against Bush because his opposition is much stronger than his support in the mid ground. The only thing going for him is ignorance and apathy and inertia pushed by raw dough and dumb commercials.
That won't be enough and they know it even if the media doesn't.
So the fight hasn't begun although they haven't looked competent or effective on their own yet. They need Osama or the media to constantly bail them out.
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Mon Apr-19-04 12:29 PM
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23. This would be my thinking |
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but if proved wrong, that's it. I'm done. I won't vote.
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:49 AM
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:55 AM
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21. Since Kerry would lose Florida regardless, the answer is no |
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:59 AM
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22. Leibermann was just with him |
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because they a were courting Jewish voters in FL. Thats all.
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Mon Apr-19-04 05:21 PM
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25. Not according to every poll taken since Iowa |
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but every poll taken so far except the Mason Dixon poll, and one poll in January, beffore Iowa, shows Kerry leading Bush in Florida. South Florida, particularly Palm Beach and Broward County are the two biggest Democratic Strongholds in Florida, and Lieberman had them locked up before he dropped out.
Thus Lieberman and Kerry in Lake Worth today.
Bush 46% Kerry 47% other Rasmussen Report 4/13/04 4.5% Bush 51% Kerry 43% other Mason Dixon 3/30-4/1/04 4% Bush 45% Kerry 48% other 2% Rasmussen Reports 3/1-13/04 5% Bush 43% Kerry 49% Nader 3% Schroth & Assoc. (D) / Polling Co. (R) 3/3-4/04 3.5% Bush/Cheney 44% Kerry/Edwards 49% Nader 3% Bush / Cheney 44% Kerry / Graham 49% Nader 2% Bush / Cheney 44% Kerry / Nelson 46% Nader 3% Bush 44% Kerry 45% Nader 4% American Research Group 3/3-4/04 4% Bush 47% Kerry 42% Nader 1% Research 2000 2/24-25/04 4%
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Mon Apr-19-04 05:55 PM
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Kerry is doing better in Florida right now than most polls ever had Gore doing.
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Mon Apr-19-04 08:29 PM
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34. One must factor in BBV and "convicted felons." |
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I have a feeling Jeb will "deliver" Florida for his big brother yet again.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:40 AM
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Mason-Dixon has Bush ahead by 8. Rasmussen, the lastest poll showing Kerry ahead by 1, doesn't include Nader. There are many reasons to think Florida will be difficult to win: 1) Kerry is not a Southerner 2) Bush has been pro-Israel 3) Lieberman (most likely) not on ticket 4) Prescription drug bill could help among elderly 5) Florida economy booming 6) Recent registrations more Republican than Democratic
Kerry's best chance to win, IMO, is to hold the Gore states and add Ohio, which is what I think his strategy is.
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Tue Apr-20-04 08:59 AM
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Mon Apr-19-04 12:57 PM
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24. Seriously Doubt It... |
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He's just using Lieberman to campaign where he thinks it will help. It's actually rather nice to see the other Dem candidates helping Kerry. Clark, Dean and Edwards have a great job in the past several weeks.
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Mon Apr-19-04 05:31 PM
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26. This is why Nader must stay in the race |
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If Kerry chooses Lieberman...there will be no viable candidacy other than Nader's. This would be an obvious sign that Kerry is "throwing" the election.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:53 PM
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47. Nader once had my respect |
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Now I beleive that he would prefer Bush to win to a Democrat. He is simply acting out of a personal vendetta against the democratic party. He will be remembered for that and nothing else.
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Mon Apr-19-04 05:32 PM
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27. Well If He Does, It Won't Be Nader's Fault If He Loses !!! |
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Many would just throw up their hands and stay home on election day.
And personally, I don't even want to go there.
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Gotta admit though, your question has me rattled!!!
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Mon Apr-19-04 05:49 PM
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28. Merciful God, please no! |
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Mon Apr-19-04 06:23 PM
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30. I was JUST thinking about this |
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But since he supports Sharon there's really no reason to pick Lieberman.
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Mon Apr-19-04 06:25 PM
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31. Ugh, that's the worst thing I've ever heard. |
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Only a Gephardt/Lieberman ticket would be more boring.
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Mon Apr-19-04 08:06 PM
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32. Calm down and check the calendar. He is campaigning with everyone. |
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Just over the last week and in the next he will have campaigned with Edwards, Clinton, Graham, John Grisham, Anne Rice, Ben Affleck, etc.
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Mon Apr-19-04 08:27 PM
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33. Oh boy. Great idea. Let's make the same mistake twice! |
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Tue Apr-20-04 11:54 AM
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43. If it hadn't been for Lieberman, Bush would have won FL by a safe margin |
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The Democratic ticket did very well in area with high concentrations of Jewish voters.
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Tue Apr-20-04 02:38 PM
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44. So in other words, if Lieberman hadn't been on the ticket, |
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Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 02:41 PM by elperromagico
Bush would be President right now?
Boy, I'm glad that didn't happen!
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Wed Apr-21-04 10:21 AM
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49. The point is that it would not have been as close |
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Mon Apr-19-04 11:54 PM
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There is absolutely NO CHANCE whatsoever of this happening.
Lieberman is in Florida to campaign for Kerry among seniors, many of whom happen to be Jewish.
Lieberman will not be the VP. I guarantee it. OTOH, Gephardt could be and that doesn't thrill me either.
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Tue Apr-20-04 12:29 AM
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36. No, but Lieberman could turn off some moderate conservative... |
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votes. He won't help Kerry at all.
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Tue Apr-20-04 09:32 AM
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Kerry is too smart to make that mistake. It will more than likely be Edwards or Clark.
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Tue Apr-20-04 11:29 AM
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42. Lieberman won't win any votes |
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He didn't in 2000; he won't in 2004.
"Moderate conservatives" voted for Bush in 2000. If Kerry nominated Lieberman, which he won't, they'd still vote for Bush.
The only way, imho, for Kerry to peel off an appreciable number of conservatives is if he nominates John McCain, although another war hero might help a little.
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Tue Apr-20-04 11:11 AM
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Lieberman's still popular in South Florida, so it's natural that he's campaigning with him. I doubt that he'd take Joe up to Central and North Florida, though.
Did they show it on MSNBC? I was there and am surprised it made national TV.
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:20 PM
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... although I don't like to see LIEberman campaigning with Kerry... If he, for some god-awful reason, decided on Lieberman, I would have an even harder time stomaching my vote in the upcoming election...
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Tue Apr-20-04 03:21 PM
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that was for the folks in Florida who got screwed in their votes for Gore/Lieberman last time around (reminder). At least that better be the reason. If it isn't and he is to be the VP choice, I don't know if I'll vote for the ticket or not. I would know foreign policy would remain the same for the most part.
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Tue Apr-20-04 04:08 PM
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I would surely question Kerry's judgement if he picked Holy Joe for VP. Lieberman should give up on national politics, move to Israel and serve in the Sharon cabinent.
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Wed Apr-21-04 10:22 AM
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50. Kerry is beginning to sound like Lieberman so why not? |
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