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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:14 AM
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Could Kerry pick Lieberman for VP? MSNBC showing them campaigning
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 11:15 AM by KoKo01
together now in Florida. Lieberman is right there with the balloons and flags shaking hands, smiling and acting like he's running again for VP.

Would Kerry do this? Would he? Is that why he said he supported "Israel's right to defend itself from terrorists" yesterday on MTP? Is that why he defended killing Hamas Leader?

Please don't tell me he's thinking of this...:-(
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:15 AM
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1. No n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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2. Excuse me while I
vacate my upper GI. :puke:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:16 AM
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3. I'd move to Iceland
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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4. Dear god no
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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5. Very unlikely
I'm pretty sure Kerry has an excellent pro-Israel record and his (unfortunate) comments supporting Sharon, if anything, will make it easier for him to pick someone other than Sharon.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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6. No
He will pick someone outside of the Northeast to help carry the vote in Nov., imo.
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dammit905 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:20 AM
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14. In a debate during the primary season
He was asked about coming from the Northeast... He replied that he would run with a Southerner on the ticket, and "we'll do just fine." if I recall correctly. So not Leiberman, thank God.
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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7. There is no way. Hopefully he is not seriously considering
Gephardt either - I would be so depressed.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:17 AM
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8. Lieberman for VP
This almost might be enough for me to vote Green.

In any other year, I would if this happened.

I consider Bush enough of a threat...

But, LIEBERMAN? Does Kerry really think he was an asset to Gore?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:18 AM
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9. :puke:
:puke: :puke: :puke:
:puke: :puke: :puke:
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:18 AM
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10. I can't see this happening
It's bad geographically -- Connecticut has few electoral votes, they're strong D anyway, and Kerry's also from New England.)

Lieberman as a presidential candidate didn't exactly excite anyone. Lieberman as VP candidate didn't work last time around.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:18 AM
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11. Nobody's that stupid!
Oh, wait. Dubya is, but the Unka Dick won't let him pick Lieberman.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:19 AM
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12. I don't think Lieberman will be chosen for VP again
but this stuff is still disturbing.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:20 AM
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13. Oy vey!
When Kerry shows up on a stage to debate Bush*, are you going to worry that Kerry is going to pick Bush* for VP?

Lieberman is very popular in Florida, and his presence will remind them of ElectionTheft2000.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:25 AM
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16. Since Lieberman encouraged the election theft in Florida
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 11:26 AM by Classical_Liberal
by harping about the illegimate after the due date military votes, and was one of the people that wanted us to "get over it!" how is this a good thing?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:20 AM
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15. I doubt it
he's been holding hands with all the other former candidates lately too. Doesn't mean a thing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:37 AM
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17. Nope. It's just Lieberman's turn to campaign with Kerry.
Lieberman is there tweaking the memories of those who votes were discounted.

Kerry has NO intention of putting Lieberman on the ticket.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:47 AM
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18. Good for the media contest mentality
It works to keep their attention. Use it. It also distracts attacks on the ticket which is not officially formed yet. Party unity is a major devastating factor this year and would be a winner by itself with a fighting Kerry if not for Bush cheating.

People we talk to who voted for Bush will go to Kerry this time. They believe Bush will cheat and win, but this keeps them from thinking Kerry has a potential landslide in motion. That is good too. This is stoking fuel to a potentially devastating mandate against Bush because his opposition is much stronger than his support in the mid ground. The only thing going for him is ignorance and apathy and inertia pushed by raw dough and dumb commercials.

That won't be enough and they know it even if the media doesn't.

So the fight hasn't begun although they haven't looked competent or effective on their own yet. They need Osama or the media to constantly bail them out.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:29 PM
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23. This would be my thinking
but if proved wrong, that's it. I'm done. I won't vote.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:49 AM
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19. Not a chance. nt
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:51 AM
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20. Certainly he could
but he won't.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:55 AM
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21. Since Kerry would lose Florida regardless, the answer is no
NT
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:59 AM
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22. Leibermann was just with him
because they a were courting Jewish voters in FL. Thats all.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:21 PM
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25. Not according to every poll taken since Iowa
but every poll taken so far except the Mason Dixon poll, and one poll in January, beffore Iowa, shows Kerry leading Bush in Florida. South Florida, particularly Palm Beach and Broward County are the two biggest Democratic Strongholds in Florida, and Lieberman had them locked up before he dropped out.

Thus Lieberman and Kerry in Lake Worth today.

Bush 46% Kerry 47% other Rasmussen Report 4/13/04 4.5%
Bush 51% Kerry 43% other Mason Dixon 3/30-4/1/04 4%
Bush 45% Kerry 48% other 2% Rasmussen Reports 3/1-13/04 5%
Bush 43% Kerry 49% Nader 3% Schroth & Assoc. (D) / Polling Co. (R) 3/3-4/04 3.5%
Bush/Cheney 44% Kerry/Edwards 49% Nader 3%
Bush / Cheney 44% Kerry / Graham 49% Nader 2%
Bush / Cheney 44% Kerry / Nelson 46% Nader 3%
Bush 44% Kerry 45% Nader 4% American Research Group 3/3-4/04 4%
Bush 47% Kerry 42% Nader 1% Research 2000 2/24-25/04 4%


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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:55 PM
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29. Why do you say that?
Kerry is doing better in Florida right now than most polls ever had Gore doing.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:29 PM
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34. One must factor in BBV and "convicted felons."
I have a feeling Jeb will "deliver" Florida for his big brother yet again.
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eumesmo Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:40 AM
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37. Ohio, not Florida
Mason-Dixon has Bush ahead by 8. Rasmussen, the lastest poll showing Kerry ahead by 1, doesn't include Nader. There are many reasons to think Florida will be difficult to win:
1) Kerry is not a Southerner
2) Bush has been pro-Israel
3) Lieberman (most likely) not on ticket
4) Prescription drug bill could help among elderly
5) Florida economy booming
6) Recent registrations more Republican than Democratic

Kerry's best chance to win, IMO, is to hold the Gore states and add Ohio, which is what I think his strategy is.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:59 AM
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38. Hi eumesmo!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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eumesmo Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:45 AM
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40. Thank you
for the welcome.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:57 PM
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24. Seriously Doubt It...
He's just using Lieberman to campaign where he thinks it will help. It's actually rather nice to see the other Dem candidates helping Kerry. Clark, Dean and Edwards have a great job in the past several weeks.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:31 PM
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26. This is why Nader must stay in the race
If Kerry chooses Lieberman...there will be no viable candidacy other than Nader's. This would be an obvious sign that Kerry is "throwing" the election.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:53 PM
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47. Nader once had my respect
Now I beleive that he would prefer Bush to win to a Democrat. He is simply acting out of a personal vendetta against the democratic party. He will be remembered for that and nothing else.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:32 PM
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27. Well If He Does, It Won't Be Nader's Fault If He Loses !!!
Many would just throw up their hands and stay home on election day.

And personally, I don't even want to go there.

:puke:

Gotta admit though, your question has me rattled!!!

:argh:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 05:49 PM
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28. Merciful God, please no!
*gets on knees*
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:23 PM
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30. I was JUST thinking about this
But since he supports Sharon there's really no reason to pick Lieberman.
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:25 PM
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31. Ugh, that's the worst thing I've ever heard.
Only a Gephardt/Lieberman ticket would be more boring.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:06 PM
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32. Calm down and check the calendar. He is campaigning with everyone.
Just over the last week and in the next he will have campaigned with Edwards, Clinton, Graham, John Grisham, Anne Rice, Ben Affleck, etc.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:27 PM
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33. Oh boy. Great idea. Let's make the same mistake twice!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:54 AM
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43. If it hadn't been for Lieberman, Bush would have won FL by a safe margin
The Democratic ticket did very well in area with high concentrations of Jewish voters.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 02:38 PM
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44. So in other words, if Lieberman hadn't been on the ticket,
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 02:41 PM by elperromagico
Bush would be President right now?

Boy, I'm glad that didn't happen!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:21 AM
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49. The point is that it would not have been as close
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:54 PM
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35. No
There is absolutely NO CHANCE whatsoever of this happening.

Lieberman is in Florida to campaign for Kerry among seniors, many of whom happen to be Jewish.

Lieberman will not be the VP. I guarantee it. OTOH, Gephardt could be and that doesn't thrill me either.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:29 AM
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36. No, but Lieberman could turn off some moderate conservative...
votes. He won't help Kerry at all.
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cclark401 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 09:32 AM
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39. Will never happen
Kerry is too smart to make that mistake. It will more than likely be Edwards or Clark.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:29 AM
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42. Lieberman won't win any votes
He didn't in 2000; he won't in 2004.

"Moderate conservatives" voted for Bush in 2000. If Kerry nominated Lieberman, which he won't, they'd still vote for Bush.

The only way, imho, for Kerry to peel off an appreciable number of conservatives is if he nominates John McCain, although another war hero might help a little.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:11 AM
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41. I doubt it
Lieberman's still popular in South Florida, so it's natural that he's campaigning with him. I doubt that he'd take Joe up to Central and North Florida, though.

Did they show it on MSNBC? I was there and am surprised it made national TV.
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maxwall Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:20 PM
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45. He won't...
... although I don't like to see LIEberman campaigning with Kerry... If he, for some god-awful reason, decided on Lieberman, I would have an even harder time stomaching my vote in the upcoming election...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:21 PM
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46. No
that was for the folks in Florida who got screwed in their votes for Gore/Lieberman last time around (reminder). At least that better be the reason. If it isn't and he is to be the VP choice, I don't know if I'll vote for the ticket or not. I would know foreign policy would remain the same for the most part.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:08 PM
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48. No Way
I would surely question Kerry's judgement if he picked Holy Joe for VP. Lieberman should give up on national politics, move to Israel and serve in the Sharon cabinent.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:22 AM
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50. Kerry is beginning to sound like Lieberman so why not?
anything is possible....
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