24% of Hillary's Votes in MS were Republicans.

[Barack_America]

About 5% of Obama's vote percentage came from Republicans.

According to MSNBC (Hardball) and based on their exit-polling. I checked the math, and yes, it is right (I think, but I'm no mathematician).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21225989

Kind of gives a new perspective on that "70% of Hillary voters would never vote for Obama" stat, eh?

Taking away that 24% makes the numbers of voters who said they wouldn't vote for the other candidate nearly equal.

ETA: This obviously affects ALL of the exit poll stats. The race divide, how many would vote for McCain, etc.

[ingac70]

1. They are dicking with our primary...

fortunately, even with them doing this, the math is still against Hillary.

[brer cat]

32. They have a history of dicking with our primaries....

Cynthia McKinney (GA)was defeated in 2002 in her primary by republicans voting in the democratic primary.

[anonymeme]

40. WHY CLONE LIES? The Repugs Are NOT Voting for Hillary, They Are Voting for Obama!

WHY CLONE LIES? The Repugs Are NOT Voting for Hillary, They Are Voting for Obama!

And people with big wads of *duh* where their brains belong are playing right into their hands.

The Right Wing is terrified of Hillary, because she's been there and knows them all, knows their weak spots, knows how the operate on an up-close level.

She is strong, strong, strong, strong. With an Iron Will and she WILL be effective in getting what she wants!

That's WHY they are voting for Obama -- I KNOW this from other forums where both Dems and Repugs post. The Repugs are pushing so hard for Obama.

I have kept asking them from the beginning what our Dem primaries were to them and never got a straight answer -- even though I knew it was to skew our Democratic process -- and lately, I've just been telling them I'm onto them and trying to get them to trip themselves up.

If they do give us Obama as our candidate, I promise you, we will never hear the freakin' end of all Obamas bad and dangerous connections...

[Barack_America]

41. Um, apparently your Republican *friends*...

That you reference talking to are NOT voting for Obama.

In MS, 24% of ALL of Hillary's votes came from Republicans. Only 5% of Obama's votes were from Republicans.

That's the math. Sorry.

[anonymous171]

2. I knew it! That's why so many said they would vote McCain.

[Barack_America]

4. Good point.

I had forgotten about that freaky statistic.

[Johnny__Motown]

3. One more reason Hillary should drop out , not that she will

[Barack_America]

26. The question is, how many Republicans will reregister as Democrats...

To vote for her in PA. Unfortunately, we'll never know the answer to that.

[annie1]

53. she should drop out cuz pubs were voting for her? before now they were voting obama...

so maybe he should retroactively drop out.

[Barack_America]

54. With all due respect, Republicans never represented 24% of his total votes.

But, on the other hand, I don't think this is something Hillary needs to drop out over.

It does, however, tell us that we need to take the other questions on those exit polls with a grain of salt. They have been tainted, lol.

[ClayZ]

5. K and R

[anonymous171]

6. That's a really big number.

And they say Obama is being held up by repugs. :kick:

[Cha]

24. Obama has disgusted with the last 8 years

repugs who will vote for him in the GE..hilary has rush limpbaugh repugs voting for her in the primary so they can vote against her in the ge.

[Greyskye]

7. K & R

To the GP with you.

[MADem]

8. It's an argument for CLOSED PRIMARIES. Not "closed" where independents can vote, but CLOSED

where ONLY Democrats can elect the PARTY nominee.

The GOP doesn't allow this kind of stuff. THEY pick their own candidate...not allow the other team to so do.

This kind of stuff has been happening on BOTH sides, and until the DNC sits down with the state parties and tells them we need to do the Tighten Up, it'll continue like this.

But if anyone on this fucking board thinks that Mississippi is going for ANYONE other than McCain in the general election, they're high as kites. That's one gerrymandered RED state--not even CLOSE to purple.

[jackson_dem]

9. Wrong. Hill won white Democrats 74-21. Since almost all repubs are white...

...given the racial voting in MS :wtf: does Obamanatin expect? Maybe Obama should "transcend" race more often, as he is advertised as having a special ability to do, and win more than one racial group more often (which will kind of be a problem in the general election)?

[Barack_America]

14. Go crunch their numbers yourself.

See if you come up with something different. I don't.

Republicans represented 12% of the electorate. 75% of Republican voters went for her. That number actually represents 24% of her total vote percentage (she received 38% overall).

[Perky]

34. I rand the numbers myself....24% of her votes came fdrom republicans

She got 5% from blacks
so 70% or so came from whites Dems and some indies

In a close Primary she would have gotten about three quarters of her total and Obama would have fotten about 85% of his. In a closed primary He would have won about 75% of the vote.

[cbayer]

10. Show me your math, because I contend that it is absolutely wrong.

The 3% number for Obama is correct.

The correct number for Clinton is 9%.

[Barack_America]

15. 9% equals nearly a quarter of her votes. n/t

[cbayer]

16. Huh?

No it represent 9% of her votes.

[Barack_America]

18. 9% equals nearly a quarter of her overall vote percentage...

...which was 38%.

That's how MSNBC got their numbers.

[cbayer]

20. You are correct.

I am wrong. Thank you.

[Barack_America]

25. No problem. Math isn't my strongsuit.

You actually encouraged me to quadruple check it, which is good.

Thank God the other posters are better at translating numbers into words. I certainly suck at it.

[Drachasor]

19. 9% of the total vote (for Obama and Clinton) were Republicans voting for Clinton

Since she had 38% of the vote, 9/38 ~= 24% of votes for Clinton were from Republicans.

[KaptBunnyPants]

21. No, he's right.

Republicans represented 12% or the voting public. 75% of those self described Republicans voted for Hillary, meaning that 9% of the total number of voters were Republicans voting for Hillary. Her total percentage of the vote was 37%. Therefore, the ratio of Republicans who voted for her and total voters who voted for her was 9/37 or 24.3%.

[cbayer]

22. Yes, I get it now.

See apology above.

I seem to have forgotten all the math I once knew.

[KaptBunnyPants]

23. Sorry. The pile-on wasn't there when I began writing that post.

[TheDoorbellRang]

42. Dang! She's right. Here's the math. 23.8% of Clinton's votes were Republicans

Per CNN, total vote in MS democratic primary:
Obama 255,809 + Clinton 155,686 = 411,495

Per exit polls, 12% are self described Republicans
12% of 411,495 = 49,379

Per exit polls, 75% of Republicans voting chose Clinton
75% of 49,379 = 37,034

37,034 = 23.8% of 155,686
Therefore, 23.8% of Clinton's total were Republicans

Per exit polls, 25% of Republicans voting chose Obama
25% of 49,379 = 12,345

12,345 = 4.8% of 255,809
Therefore, 4.8% of Obama's total were Republicans

The 3% vs. 9% figures would only be correct if Obama and Clinton had the same number of votes.

[Barack_America]

46. Pretty shocking, isn't it?

I'm a bit surprised that we haven't heard more about it.

You should also see Frenchie's post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5046005&mesg_id=5047344

Somebody out there on the blogosphere is tracking this!

[TheDoorbellRang]

49. Super D's should take note. n/t

[MagickMuffin]

11. How do you think she won Texas pop. vote? Billbo went on RW radio the day of the primary

He was suppose to be on Limpballs show but Rush had the flu for one day, so RW Mark Davis got the honor to interview Billbo.

Funny how they are now embracing the VERY people who went after them 24/7.

[niceypoo]

12. And if they had Voted for Obama, they would be bragging about it

Hypocrites

[Texas Hill Country]

13. actually it doesnt make them equal... you are taking 24 % from 70%, your statistics are bad lol.

[Barack_America]

17. So you disagree with MSNBC's exit polls?

That show 24% of Hillary's votes came from Republicans?

They're not my statistics, they belong to MSNBC.

And I didn't say that it made them "equal". I said "nearly equal". In order to determine a hard number, you'd also have to take away the number of Republicans that voted for Obama, etc. etc.

[FrenchieCat]

27. No...she's right, you're wrong!

Republicans tilted the White Vote to Hillary Clinton by an astonishing 24%.....meaning that Obama's percentage in the MS White Dem vote was under-reported by 24%!

Total Votes in the Democratic primary in MS = 407,217
Total Republican voting in that number = 13% = 52,938
Total voting for Hillary of the 13% = 75%
Total Republicans voting for Hillary = 37,056
Total Hillary vote count = 155,686
Total Republican percentage made up Hillary's vote count = 23.8% which rounds to 24%
Supporting figures sources:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#MS
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21225989

[PA Democrat]

38. OMG. Those stats make me ill. I cannot reach any conclusion other than that

a good number of Republicans have followed Rush Limbaugh's advice and are voting for Hillary to throw the Democratic party into further disarray. Nothing else makes any sense based upon those exit poll results.

I would encourage people to look at the MSNBC link and reach your own conclusion.

[ProSense]

28. Limbaugh Republicans for Hillary! n/t

[TexasLady]

29. I wonder why neither Hillary nor Obama

ever bring this fact up?

[Barack_America]

30. Because that only encourages them?

They're not smart to think of this stuff themselves. Limbaugh is doing everything he can to promote it. No need for Democrats to add fuel to the fire.

But, after the registration deadline has passed in PA on the 24th, I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama mention it. (at that point Republicans are officially shut out of our primary)

[TexasLady]

31. thanks for clarity

[Lucinda]

33. LOL NOW you're worried about people crossing over and screwing with our primary?

Forgetting about the weeks of "Vote Republican For a Day for Obama" are we?

[rodeodance]

35. I had to chucke also as i read a few of the responses.!! now they worry!!

[Lucinda]

37. Several didn't worry about the media manipulation until it happened to their guy either

It's very surreal in here lately. :)

[rodeodance]

45. yeah--some are actually asking questions now.

[Lucinda]

47. Better late then nevah

I guess....

[Barack_America]

39. Weeks? That was one flier.

It was corrected almost immediately. That is not the Obama campaign position.

Obama's campaign hasn't been asking Republicans to vote for him in just the primary, but the general too. He's asking them to switch over permanently.

What Rush Limbaugh is doing (and Bill too, by appearing on his show) is asking Republicans who have no intention of voting for a Dem in November, to participate in Dem primaries.

Completely different situation.

[Lucinda]

44. It happened before "flyer guy" and it's happened since.

This isn't news to many of us. The discussion has been going on here for a while now. Perhaps you have posters on ignore? Because I'm really surprised many people seen to think this is a new thing.

[yardwork]

36. Does anyone seriously think that any of those Republicans would vote for Hillary in the GE?

The Democratic Party needs to close our primaries to registered Democrats.

[tabasco]

43. Must be a lot of dittoheads in Mississippi.

Not surprising.

[Major Hogwash]

48. So, she's still getting her ass kicked, even with the Republicans help.

Man, the Democrats must be disgusted by her by now really bad.

LoL

What a pathetic excuse of a candidate!

[Barack_America]

50. Lol. I guess that's one way of looking at it.

:hi:

[Major Hogwash]

51. It's sad really. In Idaho, no self-respecting Republican would get caught dead voting for Hillary.

I'm not making that up either.

[Barack_America]

52. I know you're not.

I'm from Michigan, originally. I'm familiar with the sentiment. Shit, all I have to do is call my parents if I want to be reminded of it, lol.

Really, I think that kos opened this can of worms with their "Vote for Romney" campaign in MI. I didn't agree with that either.