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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:53 PM
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Obamans, let's reason together.
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 07:09 PM by EmilyAnne
**Copied and pasted from a letter from David Plouffe.**

"When we won Iowa, the Clinton campaign said it's not the number of states you win, it's 'a contest for delegates.'

When we won a significant lead in delegates, they said it's really about which states you win.

When we won South Carolina, they discounted the votes of African-Americans.

When we won predominantly white, rural states like Idaho, Utah, and Nebraska, they said those didn't count because they won't be competitive in the general election.

When we won in Washington State, Wisconsin, and Missouri -- general election battlegrounds where polls show Barack is a stronger candidate against John McCain -- the Clinton campaign attacked those voters as 'latte-sipping' elitists.

And now that we've won more than twice as many states, the Clinton spin is that only certain states really count.

But the facts are clear.

For all their attempts to discount, distract, and distort, we have won more delegates, more states, and more votes.

Meanwhile, more than half of the votes that Senator Clinton has won so far have come from just five states. And in four of these five states, polls show that Barack would be a stronger general election candidate against McCain than Clinton.

We're ready to take on John McCain."

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBTp5
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:55 PM
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1. Obama will continue to hit McCain until Clinton starts criticizing Obama
then he has to go back on defense. A candidate probably gets one shot a day to make some news. Clinton keeps bogging us down.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:56 PM
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2. "First they ignore you..."
"...then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

The DLCers are now fighting.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:56 PM
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3. Word!
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:57 PM
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4. Yes...they are fighting hard..I can't wait until they are gasping for air and finally the plug is
pulled..and it dies...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:10 PM
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9. Here's how it works with Hillary
First they ignore you, then you win, then they fight you.


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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:25 PM
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11. Hillary Clinton has NEVER been ignored.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:27 PM
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12. Sigh. In my post Hillary is "they"
First she ignored Obama
Then he won
NOW she's fighting him.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:28 PM
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13. OK. I didn't mean to offend you.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:33 PM
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15. Not offended. It just seems like everyone is on such a short fuse these days
Including me. :banghead:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:36 PM
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17. Wear yourself out!
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 07:42 PM by Life Long Dem
I'd like to know if Hillary supporters are okay with her trying to steal an election that we have had stolen from us in the last two elections?

oops... on edit i posted to the wrong post.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:57 PM
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5. Great steal these two charts tell the whole story
This is what happens after the bullshit and the people see what you really were meant




Somebody forgot to tell Iowa that they won't vote Democrat



Please note that Obama's numbers go down and McCain's go up after Clinton endorses McCain's resume
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 06:59 PM
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6. Yuck. The effect will subside. Thanks for posting that!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:32 PM
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14. It will only subside if the cause is addressed quickly
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KatieBloom Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:04 PM
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7. FYI: original source of these words...
From the Obama website...

Message from David Plouffe: Spun Out

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBTp5
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:06 PM
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8. Wow, thanks! I got it from a Datalounge (LGBT gossip/ politics site) and the author (tsk,tsk)
did not give the attribution. I'll edit up top!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:11 PM
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10. k&r for the truth. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:33 PM
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16. David Plouffe lays it out
in all its magnificent winning Glory.

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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:38 PM
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18. Excellent OP. K & R.
:thumbsup:
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 07:40 PM
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19. And now that McCain is settled in, perhaps as many as 24% of HRC's voters are LIMBAUGH REPUBLICANS..
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 07:47 PM by charles t


....who will vote Republican in November.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5042244&mesg_id=5043303


And that was just in Mississippi. Now that they see how their strategy is working, and creating such divisiveness in our party, we may see record breaking numbers of Republican sabateurs voting for HRC in Pennsylvania.

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